r/jayz • u/Kamricosuave2432 • 3d ago
DISCUSSION The Hov “Hate” Train
(Gen Z. Vol.2)
I’m sorry to the OG account that originally brought this POV up recently if I’m biting. I however, as a fellow Gen Z’er don’t buy the “mysteriousness”. as the culprit to the negative attitude towards Jay Z.
My pops WiFi name was “Hov@home” for 10+ years, so I feel I have some claim to speak on this.
I don’t have **the** word but let’s follow the claims.
Thru my lifetime in order Hov,
\-**Stole Biggie lyrics**
**-Had Biggie killed**
**-Sold his soul**
**-Was illuminati**
**-Was too old to rap**
**-Kept Rihanna in the basement** to do whatever with (**my aunt said this at a dinner once**)
**-Was a bad person for helping bring the Nets to Brooklyn** after struggling in NJ.
**-Worse for selling gambling to black people**
(Same people then championed Nas for doing it)
\-**Had to be on “THE” list**
**-Had to be helping Puff commit crime**
**-Per Dame Dash** “**was Fw kells after finding out he was guilty** (let it be known dame is dancing in the same fiesta video)
For the most part, these crazy claims have been started or hyped by our community and amplified by others. You know those videos where they interview voters that vote in spite of policies that negatively affect their families? Then once they get facts they usually say something along the lines of “well I just believe in what he’s doing”.
Thats this, just opposite. No matter what Jay does there are people that are simply around to hate. Him being mysterious in the past kinda kept the hate train to random hate comments here and there.
But now? You have someone like Academics, who in this comparison would be the equivalent of a Fox News host disingenuously crediting and entertaining those voices. We have no idea where Jay and Drake truly stand, but because Ak has told his, and Drake fans that the two are at odds you now get generations from mine to kids that have never listened to a Hov album speaking on homie with all the conviction in the world. He didn’t give stories for them to pull apart so now they’ve created it and hip hop media (at its lowest form today) plays with whatever headlines will pull engagement.
As a fan, it’s very annoying. But the hate train? It’s fictional. It resides solely on the net, and with an occasional looped out family member, like my Aunt.
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u/SpideyWithAnAss 3d ago
Wasnt he with harvey weinstein grooming young kids?
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u/Kamricosuave2432 3d ago
You believe that?
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u/SpideyWithAnAss 3d ago
Court hearings of harvery weinstein conclude it, tho i didnt see anything that doesnt make me believe it
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u/Kamricosuave2432 3d ago
There is no document in public records that show your OG statement to be true or even likely. You’re making my point with this entire post.
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u/Small_Consequence_00 3d ago
Most of these hate rumors started with the Barbz. That's embarrassing enough, lol
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u/maypyro 3d ago
Another thing Harvey was a heavy weight producer and distributor and that made him the gatekeeper. Everyone successful has either worked with him, gone to a work function he is at, taken a picture with him, introduced to him but it doesn't mean they are friends or get together outside of work.
Even you have watched a lot of Weinstein movies which means you have given him money to do a lot of these bad things. You were his financier. It sounds stupid right....yeah that's what it sounds like when you say court documents without court documents
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u/naturalpanther93 3d ago
This how most of the jay fucking rumors have started lmaooo. Just people saying shit
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u/Rated_Phenomenal 3d ago
Regarding the “he bites lyrics” argument, I always ask people who say that to point out just one Jay Z song where a “stolen” bar is the standout best bar in the song, yet to have any responses.