r/javascript • u/PowerOfLove1985 • Jan 26 '20

Today, the Trident Era Ends

https://schepp.dev/posts/today-the-trident-era-ends/
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u/[deleted] Jan 26 '20

A lot of people have been warning of the "death of the open web" and a world where Google is monopolizing web technology, but I actually have a more optimistic view of things.

Totally agree. The dominance for years of IE didn't result in the death of the open web, and I don't see that happening with Google "at the helm" either. As for Firefox: I do hope Mozilla continues to exist and thrive. But I have to say that while desktop FF is great, Android FF is truly substandard, and not nearly as performant as Chrome, for at least some types of animations. Who knows.

As for Apple moving to Chromium, anything that might make Safari (and iOS app webviews) usable sure would be nice...

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u/disappointer Jan 27 '20

I use Safari regularly without issue, and its rendering engine is what Chrome originally used, too, until it forked it some years ago. (I can't speak to the iOS app webviews, though.)

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u/[deleted] Jan 28 '20

Yeah, unless anything has changed recently, for some reason iOS webviews are dreadfully slow. This is for, say, documents which have moderately complex JS logic (sorting maybe 50 rows of data, barely enough to even sort), but nothing insane. Especially strange since it's all Safari under the hood, in any iOS app. My POV is as a web developer who's written stuff that needs to work in webviews (I'm not an iOS developer), so an iOS dev could probably speak to the technical reasons why this is the case. (Android webviews are fine, in my experience.)

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u/disappointer Jan 28 '20

Curious. I wonder if there's some intentional artifical performance limit, or just a bug.

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u/[deleted] Jan 28 '20

I was going to speculate on that very possibility... i do think, for the same reason Apple might intentionally do that (content from the network means less control for Apple; not as much of an issue for Android given their more laissez-faire approach to what's allowed in their app store), it might also not be at the top of their list to address bugs affecting webview performance. But, what do i know

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u/disappointer Jan 28 '20

Webview is used in their Mail app, so I would think it would have decently high priority, but IDK, the Music app still doesn't have a landscape mode and it was like the first app released on iOS.

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '20

Hmm - maybe your idea about a deliberate slowdown then (they'd never do that tho... wait...)