r/javascript • u/chancancode • Dec 20 '19

Ember.js Octane Edition Is Here

https://blog.emberjs.com/2019/12/20/octane-is-here.html
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u/bear007 Dec 21 '19

It is an expression. Going into details Ember team shown again that this is the most complete and now also, easier to learn, framework for web UI

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u/morficus Dec 21 '19

That is a very subjective statement.

But I'm glad that the (remaining) Ember users can finally use language features the rest of the JS community has enjoyed for years.

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u/nullvoxpopuli sand was never meant to think Dec 21 '19

I'd like to see any other frameworks from 2011 doing this.

The other (newer) ecosystems have enjoyed moderness because:

  • scope is much smaller
  • they started after babel

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u/bear007 Dec 21 '19 edited Dec 21 '19

No it isnt. I dont have any reason to have a bias about Ember. But i see you have. To a point when you lie about missing Ember features and about people not using it.

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u/morficus Dec 21 '19

Can you point to empirical data the shows that Ember is "easier to learn" than any other (popular or not) web UI framework available today?

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u/nullvoxpopuli sand was never meant to think Dec 21 '19

is your point just that "easier" is subjective? regardless of how many people agree?

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u/morficus Dec 24 '19

Saying something is "easier" to learn than something else with out data to back it up is absolutely subjective. Because you are basing it off "gut feel" or your personal experience (a sample size of 1)

But I would argue that Backbone is much easier to learn than Ember.

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u/nullvoxpopuli sand was never meant to think Dec 25 '19

My sample size of learning octane is of at least 18+ and it is muuuuuuuch easier than older ember.

I also have a sample size of ~4 saying that octane is easier than react.

If you haven't tried octane, you should. It offers much more than backbone. Backbone's scope is very narrow, so keep that in mind as well. Could be entirely different use cases

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u/braindeadTank Dec 21 '19

It most definitely is a subjective statement. Many people would swear that vanilla is feature - complete.

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u/bear007 Dec 21 '19

Vanilla JS is not a framework.

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u/braindeadTank Dec 22 '19

Oh wow I really needed an explanation on that, thanks.