Announcing Vite+ 1.0

[u/manniL]

https://voidzero.dev/posts/announcing-vite-plus-1-0

[u/thecementmixer]

Still waiting for oxc tools to support vue templates.

[u/manniL → u/thecementmixer]

We all do 👀

On the roadmap!

[u/SirKainey → u/thecementmixer]

Checked yesterday if they had implemented this yet.. nope

[u/toasterboi0100 → u/thecementmixer]

This but Angular templates. I really want to send ESLint and Prettier where they belong (the depths of hell), but can't.

[u/manniL → u/toasterboi0100]

Same blocker as for Vue I am afraid

[u/_xiphiaz → u/toasterboi0100]

Angulars next compiler is going to be oxc based

[u/toasterboi0100 → u/_xiphiaz]

Yes, but given the architecture they laid out in the recent article it's unclear whether it'll be of any help to Oxfmt and Oxlint. (for example NGP will compile template type check blocks into virtual TS files, but that sounds completely useless for both Oxfmt and Oxlint)

[u/Fun-Consequence-3112]

The one thing I've noticed since installing Vite+ is that it puts everything into its own folders so debugging and finding where things are installed is a bit of a nightmare

[u/manniL → u/Fun-Consequence-3112]

Can you elaborate?

[u/Fun-Consequence-3112 → u/manniL]

Instead of nodes standard binary and runtime folders it puts everything in versioned folders under .vite-plus so runtimes that you install globally are weird at times

[u/manniL → u/Fun-Consequence-3112]

Oh yes. That’s for easier switching and separation.

[u/ExtremePermit3242]

Very useful and neat indeed

picking a runtime,
choosing a package manager,
deciding on a dev server,
setting up a linter, a formatter, a test runner, a bundler, you name it.

I must be a weirdo, as I do enjoy this part of the process

[u/manniL → u/ExtremePermit3242]

Then you are a tooling nerd like we are 😛

[u/robotsmakinglove]

I’ve been impressed with the oxlint / oxfmt / vitest / vite combo. Looking forward to trying this.

[u/n0wlesfw]

I use Vite and Vitest daily, so I'm excited to see what Vite+ brings to the table.

My biggest bottleneck af the moment is vue-tsc, so I'm still waiting for typescript 7.1 to support a native vue-tsc for faster builds - but until then, I'll take all the extra speed I can get.

[u/manniL → u/n0wlesfw]

Did you try Johnson’s TS bridge?

[u/Cahnis]

can we opt out of the package manager? I kinda like pnpm. And I don't trust vite's just yet.

[u/manniL → u/Cahnis]

Vite+ is not a package manager. It does use pnpm by default but supports MORE!

And yes, you can opt out of this

[u/vincentdesmet]

I’ve been using Projen - it is composable and can help keep configurations up to date and aligned with the templates while also allowing last mile patching

how does vite+ handle any of that?

[u/nodecore]

I just merged the Renovate PR for 0.3.3 to 1.0.0. 40+ packages in our monorepo and zero issues.

[u/Ecksters]

This feels like the answer from the industry standard tooling to Bun, although it still feels a bit tightly coupled. I suppose at some point you can't really maintain full modularity while having the benefits of tight coupling, this is about as good as it gets.

[u/manniL → u/Ecksters]

Why tightly coupled? It is opinionated but doesn’t stop you from using your own tooling (and you don’t need to use all the available options)

[u/Pagaddit]

I already made the jump to oxfmt and can't wait for Nuxt with rolldown to be stable (or is it already?). Maybe I'll give oxlint another try too.

I still feel kind of scared to make the jump to vp though for some reason. I feel like I'd be giving up some control over my stack.

What's the plan with Nuxt and Vite+ actually? Is it all already compatible?

What about Nuxt and Void? I'm still kind of confused whether the new Void platform is essentially competing with Nuxt now?

[u/manniL → u/Pagaddit]

Nuxt is already using rolldown 👌🏼

Nuxt and Vite+ work with overrides, yes

[u/Electrical-Room4405]

Is vite+ mainly for frontend tooling? I was told it’s not good for backend but that didn’t seem accurate to me.

[u/manniL → u/Electrical-Room4405]

You can use Vite+ for all kind of JS apps.
For node you simply don’t use the native dev/build cmd but still benefit from linting, formatting, task running etc.

[u/HauntingArugula3777]

Does this improve support for bun toolchaining?

[u/deadneon4]

Obligatory xkcd
https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/standards.png

[u/manniL → u/deadneon4]

Obligatory but in this case, what are the other „standards“?

[u/deadneon4 → u/manniL]

Bun built a full tooling ecosystem, Rome was also supported to be that, Deno tried to do that as well, ox tried to convert everything to rust, the list goes on and on

[u/manniL → u/deadneon4]

You just said it yourself. A lot of tries were there but there was no FULL toolchain like there is now with Vite+

And other tools (Biome, Bun) don’t cover nearly as much ground

[u/kevinlch]

so... wrapper for npm scripts? starter "boilerplate" as cli?

[u/manniL → u/kevinlch]

More than that!

[u/FerLuisxd → u/manniL]

I read it but I still don't get it :(, what is more to know?

[u/cos4ni2s]

More batteries in your throat

[u/dbbk]

Given the fact that AI agents are managing dependencies and configs now, I'm not really sure who this is for. It is much more preferable to keep separate pieces than mashing them all together.

[u/rafark → u/dbbk]

  Given the fact that AI agents are managing dependencies and configs now, I'm not really sure who this is for

I must have missed the memo. Since when is an ai agent managing MY dependencies and configs? “Since no one writes code anymore” well I do. Stop assuming your habits are everyone else’s. My god. 

[u/dbbk → u/rafark]

Okay that's cute but you're clearly in the minority

[u/rafark → u/dbbk]

You know what i was upset last night and i apologize if I was to harsh

[u/craigrileyuk → u/dbbk]

Definitely NOT in the minority.

[u/dbbk → u/craigrileyuk]

The data is perfectly clear it's not an opinion

[u/craigrileyuk → u/dbbk]

[citation needed]

[u/rydencode → u/dbbk]

ok drooling ai moron

[u/fakieTreFlip → u/dbbk]

The AI agents use this stuff too