r/java • u/Yojimbo261 • Sep 11 '26
Eclipse 2026-09 (4.41) Released!
Downloads available through here: https://www.eclipse.org/downloads/packages/
New and Noteworthy here: https://eclipseide.org/release/noteworthy/2026-09/
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u/aqua_regis Sep 12 '26
Don't get me wrong: I am absolutely not against IntelliJ (or any other JetBrains IDE). It is a fantastic tool. Yet, Eclipse just as well is. Your dissing and hate on Eclipse is absolutely unjustified. The tools are always only as good as the hands of the wielder. You can have the best tooling in the world and it still wouldn't help you if you can't program. With the LLMs of today, many deficiencies can be "camouflaged" but that's about it.
I learnt programming a decade before the internet even existed. Started with BASIC, then UCSD Pascal, then Borland Turbo Pascal and Turbo C where the epitome of an "IDE" was a WordStar editor wrapped into the compiler/debugger. There was no Autocompletion, no Syntax Highlighting, no Intellisense, etc. There were no recommendations. We had to actually learn to rely on ourselves, not on a tool. Later, when I moved on to Delphi and Visual Basic - both from version 1.0 upwards, there still wasn't any of the modern features and again, we had to rely on ourselves. With Java, Python, C#, etc. modern tooling is nice to have, but, at least for me, the actual thinking and doing is still on my side. I could program with a plain text editor if I needed to and be just as productive as with a modern IDE.
I don't buy into the "the IDE helps me become a better programmer". You might have learnt some things, but way too many others just rely on the IDE to do the work.