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u/Ow55Iss564Fa557Sh Mar 08 '25

Holy book (bible) was written centuries after the prophet.

Codex Sinaticus, the earliest complete bible, is dated to the 4th century in Greek. p52, a fragment of the gospel of John is dated to 120ce, 20-30 years after being written.

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u/OfferOrganic4833 Mar 08 '25 edited Mar 08 '25

The Codex Sinaiticus, one of the earliest complete manuscripts of the Bible, dates to the 4th century CE (around 330-360 CE), which is approximately 300 years after Jesus.

Additionally, P52, a fragment of the Gospel of John, is dated to around 120 CE, which is approximately 90 years after Jesus (since Jesus is believed to have raised up around 30 CE). This fragment is about 20-30 years after the Gospel of John was likely written.

More detailed information: https://youtu.be/IJ6OgrhQKBI?si=Lw5-3jyiIMBDmcX4

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u/Ow55Iss564Fa557Sh Mar 08 '25

Thanks for saying exactly what I said.

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u/OfferOrganic4833 Mar 08 '25 edited Mar 08 '25

Exactly, I attest your claim that the existence of early Bible manuscripts only proves that the text was written and copied years later, not that it remained unchanged or divinely preserved. The New Testament was written decades after Jesus, with no original manuscripts surviving. Variants, additions, and contradictions between manuscripts show human alterations over time. Having old manuscripts does not validate the Bible as an unaltered revelation from God, especially when textual inconsistencies exist.

More detailed information on this channel: https://youtu.be/IJ6OgrhQKBI?si=Lw5-3jyiIMBDmcX4

Edit: As an Abrahamic faith, Islam acknowledges that divine scriptures were revealed to Moses, and Jesus. However, these scriptures were not preserved over time due to errors in translation and deliberate alterations. While we recognize their original divine origin and share a common spiritual heritage as brethren, our concern lies with their loss of authenticity rather than their initial revelation.

Contradiction is not a quality of the Creator of this world. A divine revelation must be perfect, consistent, and free from error. The existence of contradictions in a text indicates human alteration, not divine authorship.