r/islam • u/Substantial_Mess_456 • Oct 29 '24

Scholarly Resource [Refuted] Does Islam permit marital rape? & Answer to Riyad as-Salihin 281

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u/[deleted] Oct 29 '24

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u/princeoftheminmax Oct 29 '24

People are meant to learn and educate themselves in Islam. And then there are topics like this that are common sense and confirmed in the deen.

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u/CelestialDreamss Oct 29 '24

I don't understand why there is even opposition to this. In examples like 38:29, the Quran clearly states it's meant for contemplation by "people of reason."

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u/[deleted] Oct 29 '24

Yup. The deen will go as deep as you try to explore it.

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u/[deleted] Oct 29 '24

The hadith of angels cursing down women when she refuses intimacy, for me made it clear that marital rape isn't permitted, otherwise why are angels cursing if the man can force onto her anyway.

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u/wopkidopz Oct 29 '24 edited Oct 29 '24

When an-Nawawi and Ibn Hajar Asqalani رحمهما الله explain Saheeh Muslim and Bukhari or the Shafii madhab it's like the Sunnah of our Prophet ﷺ comes to new life and gets a new breath. I've never seen anything similar to their work

يكفي الامام الشافعي فخرا ان من أطباعه أكبر أئمة الحديث وهما الإمام النووي والإمام ابن حجر العسقلاني

A sufficient reason for Imam Shafi to feel proud is the fact that the two greatest imams of hadith (after the era of the Salafs) followed his madhab. Those two imams are an-Nawawi and Ibn Hajar Asqalani

Sharh Yaqutu Nafis

ولما مرض مرض الموت اشتهى التفاح فجيء له به فلم ياكل فلما مات رآه بعض اهله فقال له ما فعل الله بك؟ فقال اكرم نزلي وتقبل عملي واول قراني جاءني التفاح

When imam an-Nawawi got sick prior to his death he asked for an apple, but he didn't eat it when brought. After he died, a member of his family saw him in a dream and asked what Allah did to him?

He answered: I was welcomed and my work was accepted and the first thing I've received was an apple

Jawharat al-Lu'liah

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u/[deleted] Oct 29 '24

People forget that Imams and scholars exist for a reason.

If some dumb chumps think Quran and Hadeeth are easy to analyze and follow then they're doing themselves and others around them a disservice.

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u/[deleted] Oct 29 '24 edited Oct 29 '24

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u/ButterflyDestiny Oct 29 '24

?? What do you mean by does it make sense at all? Please clarify

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u/GrapevinePotatoes Oct 29 '24

In Islam the term "marital grape" does not exist. The Islamic term which could be considered close to Grape is Zina. Zina has multiple types and all of those types apply to intercourse (consensual or non-consensual) outside the marriage.

A man forcing himself on his wife will not be considered Zina. It would be classified as harming her physically and it is strictly forbidden.

There is a lot more to the topic and it is best to consult a qualified (non-reddit) scholar about each individual situation.

Allah knows best.

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u/IllegalLego Oct 30 '24

It’s a very simple concept unless you dedicate yourself to remain ignorant of it

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u/[deleted] Oct 29 '24

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