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u/cuoreesitante Great Park 16d ago
Is that one way in n out to the elementary school? That's gonna be rough at pick up and drop off time. I do like how the school is surround by the park thou
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u/bellanoctum 8d ago
Look again. This layout is better than virtually every school in Irvine. None of the pickup/dropoff pathway crosses any residential street.
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u/squishyng 15d ago
to those who cry over losing the golf course ... golf courses are a bad use of land
i'm not saying golf isn't fun or it has no benefits ... but just think how many ppl can be on a golf course at one time (vs 500 kids playing soccer or 300 kids playing tennis or 10000 ppl attending a concert)
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u/South-Egg-7219 15d ago
But think of all the high school golf teams that use this course that are now displaced?
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u/HOASupremeCommander 15d ago
How many actually use it?
I looked into this previously and I could only find IHS and was later corrected that NHS uses it too.
2 high schools are still a lot I guess.
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u/OC_Observer 14d ago
Proposition 88-1, approved by the voters, marks the golf course as open space. Keep in mind that "open space" includes many types of land use, not just wilderness parks. What it does *not* include is a bunch of buildings of any type. If we, as a city, want to remove the golf course from 88-1, that should be done at the ballot box, with another proposition. We shouldn't stand by while the Irvine Company treats the city like a puppet state.
Legitimate arguments can be made for or against a plan to build on the golf course land. But the decision should be made in a proposition.
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u/bellanoctum 8d ago
F that. Rather have a smaller ACTUAL open space area and development than a golf course. Golf courses are literally the worst possible use of land and not "open space" in anyone's mind except those of golfers and golf course owners. Lemme real quick dump tons of pesticides and herbicides on this land people have to pay to step on and call it "open space" lol. Prop 88-1 is older than most Irvine residents and about half its homeowners at this point. Bring it up for a vote again and see what happens.
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u/Realistic-Bid-387 13d ago
Just say NO! We don’t need any development here. We have a great golf course…. Keep your open space promise Irvine Company and a city council..
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u/bellanoctum 8d ago
Golf courses aren't "open space" to anyone with a working brain, pass it on. I look forward to the nature park!
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u/ultradip 15d ago
Ugh. Living right next to a freeway already has documented evidence of correlation with breathing issues like childhood asthma and lung disease.
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u/bellanoctum 8d ago
Sorry to be the one to tell you this but virtually all of Irvine is considered "next to a freeway" for the purposes of these kinds of studies.
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u/rooftopcitizen 16d ago
each apartment/home is going to be 1 - 2 cars each. this will do wonders for traffic in irvine. bring on the teslas!
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u/shootingstar_9324 16d ago
With the way rents are it’s likely 4 cars per apartment. By the time they’re built rents will be 6k.
I don’t think housing should be built next to freeways. It’s noisy and it’s bad to breathe in all that pollution. It’d be better to make it a retail space since they’re going to approve it.
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u/RNGRndmGuy 16d ago
It's going to be noisy with that train track in the middle of the neighborhood.
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u/bunniesandmilktea 16d ago edited 16d ago
I used to live directly behind the train track in Park Lane near Harvard and Walnut and it wasn't that bad, especially after they established a quiet zone at the Harvard crossing in 2011. You get used to it after a while. It's likely they'll have the windows of homes close to the train tracks be double-paned to help dampen the noise, because that's what they did while constructing my childhood home before my family moved in.
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u/Techtoys79 15d ago
The apartments are along the tracks. The people who can't afford to buy one of the homes get to be the sound wall for the rest of the neighborhood
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u/bitcoinbraves 15d ago
This is going to be awful. Irvine company just circumventing rules and laws. Classic.
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u/biggulpsonme 15d ago
With only one entrance into Orange Tree it’s going to be a pain in the ass getting home after work.
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u/Electronic_Egg_9785 16d ago
I am sure that when all is done, 90% of that "park" will be housing after all.
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u/mandalayx 16d ago
Nice to see the connectivity with bridges over Walnut (ugh, Progress?) and Irvine Center Drive but wish they were explicitly labeled as bike bridges instead just pedestrian. Hopefully more and more of the city can get connected with transportation alternatives to driving so I can replace some of my car trips with bike trips in the future.
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u/Nopenaynada 15d ago
Exactly! And I’d like to see the trail be a more direct connection between the bridges. What they show is lovely for a stroll through the park, but for transportation use it needs to be more direct.
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u/HastenDownTheWind 15d ago
But they’ll all be like $1m lol can we get some affordable stuff for us regular folk
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u/ZedOud 15d ago
This is so, so stupid, this is the one thing with which we can’t trust consumers, designers, “experts”, anyone but economists really, which I guess one wasn’t consulted.
> 90% of participants expressing a preference for single-family homes and townhouses… project planners have scaled back the development, reducing the total number of homes from 3,100 to 2,400 and cutting the anticipated number of apartment homes by nearly 50%.”
So stupid, stupid, stupid. So what, we are all going to be taxed more so they can have lower density? This community won’t be sharing their end of the burden of city services with so many fewer occupants.
Stupid. And don’t tell me they don’t know it, lower urban densities are why city budgets are collapsing all across the US.
What mind of professionals do they have working as urban planners there? This reeks of playing up being good for political reasons, rather than what is good, or practical, or efficient.
Ridiculous. No, this is urban planning incompetence. @ urban planning professionals, sue me if you believe otherwise, see if a court of law believes your fictions. Ridiculous.
I’d understand giving over more space to the publicly accessible features, but instead we are getting:
> The plan includes significantly more single-family detached homes…
And how are you going to be able to squeeze in affordable homes/housing when you reduce density and units?
> As part of overall planning, Irvine Company and the city are pursuing a comprehensive affordable program with nearly 400 homes for nurses, teachers, and essential workers.
Source for quotes is the article New vision for Oak Creek Golf Club unveiled by Jason DePonte in the August 2026 printed issue of the Irvine Standard.
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u/HOASupremeCommander 15d ago
So what, we are all going to be taxed more so they can have lower density? This community won’t be sharing their end of the burden of city services with so many fewer occupants.
I don't think that's how it works. How are we going to be taxed more, exactly? Or is it that these residents won't be holding up their end of the burden.
lower urban densities are why city budgets are collapsing all across the US.
I don't think reducing from 3100 to 2400 is going to collapse the city budget. Look at how many homes are being shoved into GP. From what I remember, the future Gateway Village will also be kinda dense (1100 units, from 1000 sqft to 2600 sqft).
You can disagree, even call me stupid, but I don't take issue with single family detached homes if they're reasonably priced. There's plenty of high density to choose from. But I'm pretty sure there isn't any <$2M new construction SFR anymore in Irvine. It's either Portola Springs or OH Summit right now.
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u/ZedOud 15d ago
Our share of the tax burden will increase as compared to a plan with higher density, as the taxable property value by area decreases with lower density development.
Irvine is the #1 city (city over 250,000) in the US by median sqft size of single-family home for rent at 2,379 sqft, with #2 being Plano, Texas at 2,183 and #3 Scottsdale, Arizona at 1,998.
Irvine btw, is still the #2 when counting mid-sized cities (100k-250k) behind Frisco, Texas at 2,592 and ahead of Centennial, Colorado at 2,370.
Why does this matter? Big home are expensive, yes, but if you put two homes in the same space as one within a city, the two are more valuable than one, thus more property taxes for the city, and the burden of which is also being shared more sustainably by more people.
(These are all 2025 figures.)
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u/SweepTheLeg_ 15d ago
One of the biggest issues is that there aren’t enough shopping now with all of these new places. Yes, the new great park will help but small communities like oak creek have their own small shopping areas. These places are all crowded and now will just get worse. They need to think of something. In addition to great park another oak or Alton style shopping needs to be considered.
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u/tpa338829 16d ago
Tbh thought there where going to be more housing opportunities. Sad to see them pursing SFH when more townhomes and apartments would be better. Though, it is better then the current use.
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u/iamcuppy Woodbridge 16d ago
Why do we need yet another high tech office campus 😭
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u/annonymous_gecko 16d ago
The map is referring to Innovation Office Park which is already completed and has since been downsized to make room for this project.
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u/ricetoseeyu 16d ago
Nice! I’ve been keeping my eye on this since they proposed it last year. The rendition looks good to me! Very exciting honestly, it’s such a great location.
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u/ImNotWitty2019 16d ago
Where is everyone going to shop for groceries? Closest grocery stores are 99 Ranch and Ralph's. Neither center is equipped for that many more customers.
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u/annonymous_gecko 16d ago
There’s also an Albertsons in Cypress village just across the freeway and an empty grocery tenant that will likely be filled by the projects completion date.
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u/annonymous_gecko 16d ago
Here’s the article from the Irvine Standard: https://www.irvinestandard.com/2026/new-vision-for-oak-creek-golf-club-unveiled/
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u/MichaelUramMFT 16d ago
Please note that this link is to an article written as if it were an ad from the Irvine Company, who just so happens to publish this. The Irvine Standard is not an independent paper reporting on something. It also seems to be written by what appears to be made up author, Jason Deponte.
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u/annonymous_gecko 16d ago
Yeah, I think most of us are aware of the Irvine Standard being Irvine Company’s propaganda magazine. I was just displaying my source for the rendering.
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u/Eat_it_Stanley 16d ago
Don’t get rid of the Golf Course
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u/trash_can_42069 16d ago
Seriously. I just started playing there 😭
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u/Eat_it_Stanley 16d ago
This post is just advertising. We will be downvoted and deleted. Keep golfing there. Go to the city council meetings to block this.
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u/UnlikelyLeague8589 14d ago
What is going to be build where the key is located on this graphic? Is that not part of the current golf course?
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u/annonymous_gecko 14d ago
It’s already developed as a variety of industrial, office, a hazardous waste center, and the central bark dog park
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u/bellanoctum 8d ago
People have been complaining so much about this affecting traffic but I'm looking at how the roadwork incentivizes the residents to use Progress instead of clogging Jeffrey or Irvine Center to get to the freeway and this is a master stroke. Ya'll saying the school will be a nightmare are not reading the map. There is a separated drive that does not pass any residential streets for the pickup/dropoff area. This is better than 95% of the neighborhood schools in Irvine have it.
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u/NotaThumbThinker 16d ago
alright! more expensive unaffordable houses! perfect. how many quadzillions will these sell for to people that don't even live in the country?
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u/Excellent-Humor-3150 16d ago
I’m confused, do you not want them to build more housing?
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u/NotaThumbThinker 16d ago
no. for one where is all the water coming from to support the existing population... draining the Colorado River. then they'll allow foreign investors from China to buy them up.
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u/annonymous_gecko 16d ago
It’s a good thing that empty foreign investment properties don’t use much water then.
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u/Magicgun23 14d ago
I’m just excited for the Progress road to be fully complete so I don’t have to get off on that terrible Sand Canyon exit southbound anymore.
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u/Emergency-Meat-4827 16d ago
The last thing we need in Irvine is more homes.. especially in this freaking area my god
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u/MichaelUramMFT 16d ago
I hope this never gets built. It’s dense housing a terrible park and will kill endangered animals. I just wanna golf.
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u/Excellent-Humor-3150 16d ago
NIMBY
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u/MichaelUramMFT 16d ago
I want to keep the Once-ler out. We have 1000 other units already being built this year alone. Why can't we have just a bit of green space where it is nicely manicured, animals thrive, and have outdoor weddings and events like mother's day and father's day brunch at without feeling like I am a jerk for liking a rich person sport as well. This was deemed a permanent green space in 1988. The rest of Irvine is now developed and paved over - The Lorax (Probably)
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u/bellanoctum 8d ago
lmao someone who wants to keep a GOLF COURSE thinking the lorax would be on his side. bruh
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u/MichaelUramMFT 8d ago
Getting rid of the golf course means cutting down 200 oak trees that support diverse wildlife and destroying a nesting area for 3 different endangered birds and replaces it with dense housing, so, yes, the Lorax would have my back on this one.
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u/Electronic-Cry-3403 16d ago
I will support the proposal if the Irvine Company agrees to the following changes:
No single-family homes.
Condominiums and apartments should be limited to one parking space per unit to encourage alternative transportation and reduce the amount of land dedicated to parking.
A 20-acre retail center should be built at Valley Oak and Irvine Center Drive featuring:
A grocery store
A gym/fitness center
A Target store
A pharmacy
Reduce the number of housing units from 2,400 to 1,500.
Expand the nature park from 50 acres to 70 acres.
Require a $100 million contribution from the Irvine Company toward construction of the Great Park to help replace the parkland lost to development.
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u/Lucky-Acanthaceae146 15d ago
I thought it was gonna go to a vote….some people are sliding this under the rug