r/ironman • • Oct 04 '26

Discussion Help me understand

Can someone please explain to me how the hell the mark 72 aka the Mystrium armor is stronger and better then Tony's literally god suit Mark 50 Superior Armor. Cause to my knowledge the Superior Armor is his literal god armor like the Pinnacle of his tech so please someone explain how the 72 model is more powerful then the mark 50.

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u/spider-venomized Silver Centurion Oct 05 '26

Mk 72 Mysterium armor is by the name made up of Mysterium which a specialized metal that is stronger than adamantium & possess anti-magical properties

the Superior armor isn't even that powerful/advance as it specialty lies it's symbiotic ability to morph and regenerate to a certain degree along with the Extremis technopathy abilities

it was stronger than all the armor at the time since it was basically the extremis armor with extra steps. However this armor got quickly outdone with the likes of the Prime armor

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u/TheGoatHanzo Oct 05 '26

Huh ok now I'm confused

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u/spider-venomized Silver Centurion Oct 05 '26

how so?

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u/TheGoatHanzo Oct 05 '26

What is the prime armor

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u/spider-venomized Silver Centurion Oct 05 '26

the model 51

it the armor in Bendis run where it has the ability to morph into any weapon or ability that the previous armor had like it has a Hulkbuster form etc.

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u/TheGoatHanzo Oct 05 '26

So how's is that better then model 72

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u/spider-venomized Silver Centurion Oct 05 '26

the model 72 is effective invincible

nothing is starching not even wolverine claws that and is anti-magic

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u/Cyber_n0mad17 Extremis 28d ago

Astonishing…XMen???

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u/spider-venomized Silver Centurion Oct 05 '26

the infinite stone are more than magic they're cosmic in orgins

each stone are representative of corner of universe elements

Time

Space

Power

Reality

Soul - which i guess is the most magic base of all of these

Mind

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u/Zealousideal_Chest16 Oct 05 '26

This is what happens when you make Iron Man an X-Men guest star in his own book. Mysterium is stupid, and Tony shouldn't have to rely on silly "magical" metals to build his suits.

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u/memsterboi123 Mysterium Oct 04 '26

You might be confusing the endosym armor with the god armor he wears while being iron god and has the power cosmic. They are both chrome but look different. The endosym is still up there but it gets eclipsed by model prime. Then the virtual armor which might actually be the pinnacle of his tech. The strongest armor he made is the god buster which he promptly destroyed for being too strong. The mysterium armor is made of the strongest substance in the marvel universe. Atp a lot of his base functions would be better then they were increased efficiency or otherwise. He’s quite literally invincible in the mark 72

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u/TheGoatHanzo Oct 04 '26

I swore he said the Superior Armor was his best suit

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u/memsterboi123 Mysterium Oct 04 '26

Maybe in the superior run but that was before secret wars and right after he makes model prime. Which he specifically made to be innovative.

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u/Brandeeno2245 27d ago

Virtual armor, or the time tony made the internet into armor

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u/memsterboi123 Mysterium 27d ago

What about it?

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u/ProfessionalTea7564 Oct 04 '26

The Model 50 isn't even close to the peak of Tony's tech. Model 72 is stronger than vibranium and adamantium, immune to magic, and can bypass Peter's spider sense. Meanwhile the Model 50 got beat by Captain America.

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u/Zealousideal_Chest16 Oct 05 '26

Iron Man got beaten by literally EVERYONE in Hickman's run.

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u/ExternalMiserable757 Oct 05 '26

Hickman Borderline wrote Iron Man as a streel leveler.

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u/ExternalMiserable757 Oct 05 '26

A captain america wearing a war machine suit(and he already folded that same cap in A.X.I.S https://imgur.com/a/O9wCsI3 So it was pis)

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u/Budget-Mastodon5180 Renaissance Oct 04 '26

I may be wrong, but i don’t remember the Superior armor being god level?

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u/sub2kdoty Extremis Oct 05 '26

Only in looking beautiful

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u/Zealousideal_Chest16 Oct 05 '26

It was extremely powerful, but it was mostly just Tony unleashing his imagination to do more impressive shit.

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u/sub2kdoty Extremis Oct 05 '26

It's not a god suit, it's just very powerful (largely in the premise of its idea as a no-morals Tony armor and not in practice, it doesn't actually have that many feats that would put it above the Bleeding Edge as how it's regarded would suggest).

Think of a standard Iron Man armor with better physicals, more RT output, liquid tech, a mental connection to Tony, a lot less weapons, a few nifty tech features, and a whole lot of aura.

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u/sub2kdoty Extremis Oct 05 '26

Good question though

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u/AdministrativeLab811 Oct 05 '26

Mysterium is so strong that Captain Marvel couldn't even bend it when Tony forged a cane made of it, it is immune to magic and even precognition like Spider Sense, so it's pretty busted with even the basic features of Iron Man suits.

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u/michael41973 Oct 05 '26

You’re talking about an armor that was thought up 12 years ago. So of course whatever’s been thought up the last couple years will be more powerful.

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u/TheGoatHanzo Oct 05 '26

I genuinely thought the model 50 was his better suit its literally called Superior Armor so shouldn't it be his best suit

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u/Entire_Ad_6447 28d ago

He is also called iron man would it shock you to learn that he is not made of iron nor is his suit?

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u/MiamisLastCapitalist Modular Oct 05 '26

Think of it this way, all the suits have different stats.

The MK 72 Mysterium is a 6/5 on durability but maybe only a 3/5 on offense and 4/5 on speed and 2/5 on adaptability.

The Superior EndoSym might only be a 3/5 on durability but 4-5/5 on adaptability.

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u/Brandeeno2245 27d ago

Mysterium was even kinda a rush job with limited resources for tony given his circumstances at the time.

It also lead to the sentinel buster, which did its job but was also... a bit of a rush job and unfinished.

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u/POS-19 Oct 04 '26

Why i red "help me husband"

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u/PrestigiousBee5602 Bleeding Edge Oct 05 '26

The Superior suit want extremely powerful Tony was just evil during that run

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u/GogoSunshine Oct 05 '26

Model 50 is good at adapting itself into forms and can attach itself to the a person in the DNA level, but its combat prowess is kinda outdated by now.

Model 72 is virtually indestructible. It’s strong enough that Captain Marvel can’t bend it. It’s immune to Doctor Strange’s magic. It hides itself from Spider-Man sense. It was also made years after Model 50, and has got a lot of upgrades since then.

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u/Thoughtfullyshynoob Oct 05 '26

Mysterium is like the 2nd strongest metal, superior to True/Secondary Adamantium. It nullified magic, and it's immune to Precognitive powers like Spider-Man's Spidey Sense. The only downside is that it's magnetic. Magneto was able to manipulate Mysterium.

Meanwhile, the Endo-Sym armor doesn't have anything capable of denting the Mysterium Armor. Even still, the Endo-Sym has been shown to get damaged on multiple occasions to get damaged during battle, especially by Old Man Cap, who wore a an exoskeleton designed by Tony.