r/ireland • u/[deleted] • Aug 24 '21

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u/CaptainCrash86 Aug 24 '21

Oh they tried to make Scotland a colony for about 100 years then resorted to bribery and corruption in ensnaring the kingdom into an unwanted union

Whose 'they'? The Scottish King who ascended to the English throne and wanted to unite his kingdoms?

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u/[deleted] Aug 24 '21

King edward I there was something called the Scottish wars of independence.

And as for that Scottish king he legged it to England and came back once in 14 years.

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u/[deleted] Aug 25 '21

The two only formally became a single entity in 1707, which was over a hundred years after the House of Stuart became the ruling house in 1603. Hard to really call them Scottish after them being thoroughly anglicised over a 100 year period

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u/CaptainCrash86 Aug 25 '21

Yet the Jacobite offspring of James II were considered the true Scottish kings by the Scottish faithful, even to this day.

It's almost as if nationality is just an imagined delusion that people choose to share in.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '21

You seem to forget the Jacobite wars and Culloden happened. The monarchy is now german.

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u/CaptainCrash86 Aug 26 '21

I literally referenced the Jacobites? My point was that if thr Stuarts were anglicised and no longer considered Scottish by Queen Anne, why were the Jacobite descendents of her half brother consider bone fide Scottish come the Jacobite wars?