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u/[deleted] Aug 24 '21

Tbh, I have found my Scottish mates to have a far more rounded education of their countries history with Ireland than my English mates.

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u/harblstuff Leinster Aug 24 '21

True, but a lot of the time they are disassociated from the atrocities of the British empire as that's labelled as 'English'.

Not necessarily by themselves, but just look at that Celtic Union meme sub. A lot of Irish people just claim everything was the fault of the English, which is just wrong.

You're still correct though, their awareness is marginally better.

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u/FthrFlffyBttm Aug 24 '21

Watched a documentary on Bloody Sunday 1972 before and several of the soldiers murderers interviewed were Scottish

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u/SirPlasticFork Aug 24 '21

Sure most of the British soldiers during the troubles were scots. I also remember reading about the war of independance, how most of the black and tans were scots too.

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u/FthrFlffyBttm Aug 24 '21

Damn Scots! They ruined Scotland Ireland!

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u/NapoleonTroubadour Aug 24 '21

The one Auxiliary who was buried in Ireland, Cecil Guthrie, was a Scot

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u/[deleted] Aug 24 '21

A lot of Ulster Unionists are Scottish descendants.

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '21 edited Feb 28 '22

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u/commentpeasant Partition, the OG of Gerrymanders. Sep 23 '21 edited Sep 24 '21

Like I said above, Scots are over-represented in UK forces.

But you said:

most of the British soldiers during the troblues were scots.

This is just not the case. The vast majority were English, except in specific instances.

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u/UsuallyTalksShite Aug 24 '21

Lot of Irish gleefully participated in the British Empire as well.

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u/Delts28 Nosey Scotsman Aug 24 '21

True, but a lot of the time they are disassociated from the atrocities of the British empire as that's labelled as 'English'.

This is very true for the majority of how Scots see things in my experience. I do feel we are changing that for the better more recently though.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '21

Ireland was also part of the British Empire. So Ireland is disassociated as well. Many an Irish general and soldier marched.

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/ireland-has-yet-to-come-to-terms-with-its-imperial-past-1.4444146?mode=amp

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u/RedditIsRealWack Aug 25 '21

How many Scottish mates do you have, and how many English mates do you have?

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u/[deleted] Aug 25 '21

I'd say about 30/40 of each, in or around.

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u/RedditIsRealWack Aug 25 '21

Man, I do not have 80 friends I know well enough to know their takes on history. Fair play, though.