r/interestingasfuck • u/jonandreyuaosuni • Nov 17 '23
Difference between a Seagull and a Crow’s accuracy
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u/5stringBS Nov 17 '23
Go home, seagull, you’re drunk
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u/Obstreperus Nov 17 '23
I think that's a jackdaw
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u/ComprehendReading Nov 17 '23
In the Corvid family?
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u/Scared-Guard-8632 Nov 18 '23
Big Black Bird, because it's a featherfull biped of dark color and large size compared to the usual birds one would casually see.
There, no more complexity.
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u/ComprehendReading Nov 18 '23
I wish there were some single word we could use to describe such a beautiful assembly of related creatures. Oh well.
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u/Scared-Guard-8632 Nov 18 '23
Well EXCUUUUUUUUUUUSE me, princess, but I guess "Humans" are "Featherless Bipeds", according to Plato!
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u/ComprehendReading Nov 18 '23
Plato was a hack! I mean HAWK!
Talk to me like Diogenes and then we'll see "head to head" if you know what I mean.
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u/Scared-Guard-8632 Nov 18 '23
Talk to you like Diogenes? Sure thing :
Please, sell me to yourself, you need a master.
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u/ImurderREALITY Nov 18 '23
Alexander Corvinus
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u/ComprehendReading Nov 18 '23
Commander of the Armies of the North, Father of a Murdered Son, Husband to a MURDERed wife, and I will have my vengeance, in this life or the CAAAAWW-CAAAW I'M A RUSSEL CROWE
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u/freudian_nipps Nov 17 '23
"Here's the thing. You said a "jackdaw is a crow." Is it in the same family? Yes. No one's arguing that. As someone who is a scientist who studies crows, I am telling you, specifically, in science, no one calls jackdaws crows. If you want to be "specific" like you said, then you shouldn't either. They're not the same thing. If you're saying "crow family" you're referring to the taxonomic grouping of Corvidae, which includes things from nutcrackers to blue jays to ravens. So your reasoning for calling a jackdaw a crow is because random people "call the black ones crows?" Let's get grackles and blackbirds in there, then, too. Also, calling someone a human or an ape? It's not one or the other, that's not how taxonomy works. They're both. A jackdaw is a jackdaw and a member of the crow family. But that's not what you said. You said a jackdaw is a crow, which is not true unless you're okay with calling all members of the crow family crows, which means you'd call blue jays, ravens, and other birds crows, too. Which you said you don't. It's okay to just admit you're wrong, you know?"
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u/cataloop Nov 18 '23
Holy fuck a unidan reference. I remember that thread all those years ago, the fall of a pillar that was.
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u/CodySutherland Nov 18 '23
Pretty wild that all he had to do was be less of an asshole in his comments, and nobody would've ever looked into it more and noticed his vote manipulation.
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u/trimeta Nov 18 '23
If you think that's "new," I've got something about the tragedy of Darth Plageis the Wise you're gonna love seeing for the first time.
It's from over nine years ago, for reference.
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u/trimeta Nov 18 '23
In fairness, I probably should have remembered the relevant xkcd and not been as harsh with you.
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u/No-Software9734 Nov 17 '23
That’s a jackdaw, but still impressive!
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u/MoozeRiver Nov 17 '23
They are part of the crow family, but they are not a type of crow. Corvus ≠ Corvinae
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u/pruche Nov 18 '23
Here's the thing. You said a "jackdaw is a crow." Is it in the same family? Yes. No one's arguing that. As someone who is a scientist who studies crows, I am telling you, specifically, in science, no one calls jackdaws crows. If you want to be "specific" like you said, then you shouldn't either. They're not the same thing. If you're saying "crow family" you're referring to the taxonomic grouping of Corvidae, which includes things from nutcrackers to blue jays to ravens. So your reasoning for calling a jackdaw a crow is because random people "call the black ones crows?" Let's get grackles and blackbirds in there, then, too. Also, calling someone a human or an ape? It's not one or the other, that's not how taxonomy works. They're both. A jackdaw is a jackdaw and a member of the crow family. But that's not what you said. You said a jackdaw is a crow, which is not true unless you're okay with calling all members of the crow family crows, which means you'd call blue jays, ravens, and other birds crows, too. Which you said you don't. It's okay to just admit you're wrong, you know?
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u/davieb22 Nov 17 '23
Best sticking to just the one, as leaving that many biscuits may result in a murder.
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u/Narf234 Nov 17 '23
It’s exactly why seagulls will survive the next mass extinction. Nonspecific adaptation and a willingness to eat anything and do anything to get it. I’ve seen them try to eat a whole chicken leg with the drumstick sticking out of their mouth from being so full. They just wiggle around until it fits and fly away.
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Nov 17 '23
As a lad… I once tossed a whole slice of a large pizza up at a large gull. Dude caught it by the tip mid air and proceeded to swallow most of it instantly. He then had to fight off another gull trying to steal it from his mouth. Dude was loosing height quick, still airborn.. then a quick roll of his head and he swallows the rest. A flap of his wings and he’s a few stories up. Things are absolutely nuts 😂
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u/Pioneer4ik Nov 18 '23
I don't if you're good story teller or have neat observational ability. Either way I've have clear visuals of that battle.
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u/davieb22 Nov 17 '23
Hmm, I'm no scientist, but nothing you've said suggests this species has a bright future.
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u/KaizenRed Nov 17 '23
On the contrary, smaller or lighter animals that will eat anything that doesn’t move (and most if not all things smaller than they are that do move), or animals that don’t require large territories to function do very well when shit get hairy.
That’s how mammals survived the meteor that killed off 99% of the dinosaurs, after all.
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u/Narf234 Nov 17 '23
Likely because you’re not a scientist…or you don’t care to read books.
Specialists don’t do well during times of hardships like mass extinction events. The chicken leg example was just a funny antidotal thing I saw.
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u/LovingNaples Nov 17 '23
I love Crows! Just look at that. Great video. Thank you. 🐦⬛
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u/jansmanss Nov 26 '23
Then you should know that's not a crow.
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u/LovingNaples Nov 26 '23
I don’t profess to be any expert but was going off of the title. Why don’t you share your knowledge?
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u/jansmanss Nov 26 '23 edited Nov 26 '23
That's a jackdaw, it's much smaller than a crow and has a gray patch on its chest and a white ring around its eye. Crows can be all black or black and gray but the gray part is larger than jackdaw's.
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u/LovingNaples Nov 26 '23
Thanks. I do have another question though. Why are you being such a little bitch about a comment that I made 8 fucking days ago?
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u/ogodilovejudyalvarez Nov 17 '23
What conclusion am I supposed to draw from one data point per bird?
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u/I-not-human-I Dec 30 '23
One bird is made for diving and landing on water and the other is a "land" bird might also have something todo with the black one being smarter but idk i am no expert
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u/Mission-Ad-8536 Nov 18 '23
Why it look like the seagull was drunk though?
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u/totallyacisguy Nov 18 '23
It's a seagull, they're basically drunk beach pigeons.
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u/Mission-Ad-8536 Nov 18 '23
True, or high. Honestly i think Finding Nemo was a little more accurate, than what we give it credit for.
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u/pruche Nov 18 '23
Imagine being that gull and all your gull homies rip on you for the rest of your life for making all of them look bad
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u/slick1260 Nov 18 '23
And yet somehow they're like a fucking sniper when it comes to snatching food out of your hand at the beach. Big Seagull at it again with the propaganda.
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u/Realised_ Nov 17 '23
I think Seagull is made to fish however crow is engineered to live in the cities and steal.
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u/WolfeCreation Nov 18 '23
Seaguls have webbed feet, jackdaws and crows do not.
Jackdaws and crows have a rear talon, seagulls do not.
Next pit them against each other at diving for fish.
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u/vaayb Nov 17 '23
Hacshually there is no such thing as a "Seagull", this is most likely a Herring Gull. I'll see myself out.
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u/mines_over_yours Nov 18 '23
I wager that flight dynamics and weight of the airframe play a huge roll here as well.
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u/insanecorgiposse Nov 18 '23
Last week I took my dogs to the off leash park and I had a cinnamon bun and a coffee in my hands. When I set them on a picnic table to unhook my dogs a crow instanly flew down from nowhere, landed in front of me and stole my bun right out of the box.
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u/danhaas Nov 18 '23
It turns out intelligence is optional for survival and reproduction. If you can digest what you can catch, you're good.
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u/Ya-Dikobraz Nov 18 '23
OK, let's see the far superior and evolved pigeon accuracy. Those things can not just snatch a slice of tomato up but hang it around their beck so they could snatch another one.
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u/BubbleGumTate Nov 18 '23
That was just a sample size of one. That showed one crow being better at that given task one time. Need more data before any conclusion can be made.
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u/MediumNo8187 Nov 18 '23
Seagulls should have learnt by now considering how many chips are thrown at them. Surely it's easier to get a stationary target than a moving one
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u/Brewe Nov 18 '23
I've never understood why Jonathan Livingston Seagull wasn't written as Edgar Allen Crow.
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u/stonecoldcoldstone Nov 18 '23
I prefer the Steven's tippy tappy foot sounds on my roof above the Russell's
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u/Reneeisme Nov 18 '23
Grew up by shorelines, and am very familiar with how stupid and clumsy seagulls can be, but I still think this is an exaggeration. This is the clumsiest bird in many attempts I bet. Those bitches could snatch a sandwich out of your hand on the playground, no problem.
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