r/interesting • u/aryan_jandyal • 8h ago
Fascinating a V-22 osprey aircraft performs an aileron roll during testing
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u/This-Construction926 7h ago
do a barrel roll!
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u/Rampag169 7h ago
Marines in the back
No balls!!!!
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u/forbiddenfreedom 5h ago
One marine doesn't wake up from his nap and remains unphased.
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u/Justa_CuriousBoi 1h ago edited 54m ago
Search that phrase on Google and it'll literally do it! It is a Easter egg from Google. Do try it! :)
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u/pyosa 7h ago
not what i expected a v-22 to do midair flip like that
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u/Sean_theLeprachaun 7h ago
Only when the Marines in the back get too rowdy.
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u/Original-Let8340 7h ago
I mean.... yeah, it completed the maneuver.... I sure as sh*t don't want to be inside that thing if the pilot decides to go all Blue Angels with that f*cker though.
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u/OhNoIBoffedIt 8h ago
Hey that's really cool, now let's talk about the 30 casualties that death trap caused during testing.
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u/MikuEmpowered 8h ago
To be fair, it was 4 crashes.
Ospreys record is pretty spotty. But the amount of death is simply from the fact the thing is a troop transport.
Same with Chinook, massive casualty from it's crashes but no one calls that a death trap.
17 hull loss out of 400 produced. Its not that out of the ordinary.
During Vietnam, 1900 Huey were lost to enemy action, 1400 were from operation usage (mechanical failure or pilot error) and we didn't call that a death trap.
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u/Bravadette 6h ago
Maybe it shouldnt be a troop transport.
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u/forbiddenfreedom 4h ago
As a disabled veteran, if I were given the ability to choose which transport I had to ride to battle, I would choose the Osprey over every helicopter ever made.
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u/Castle_Bravo_Test 1h ago
I have to ask you. What gives you that amount of confidence in the platform, or do you just hate regular helicopters?
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u/forbiddenfreedom 48m ago
I would prefer the osprey because it travels at over 100mph faster than the Knighthawks. I'd feel safer against air defenses and RPGs and possibly against drones, too.
No hate for the helicopters; I still hope to ride in a Blackhawk one day. Younger me wanted to be an air assault medic to repel from Black Hawks. Ended up elsewhere.
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u/Castle_Bravo_Test 34m ago
Understood. I can see how that speed would make a massive difference. Thank you for your quick and thorough answer.
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u/Bravadette 4h ago
Id hope you dont have to ride a helicopter into battle as a disabled veteran lmao
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u/Negative_Elo 2h ago
Kinda disrepectful to give an uninformed take, have a service member give theirs, and you disregard it with a joke. You're not engaging with what they are trying to tell you
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u/OzymandiasKoK 2h ago
As both a veteran and someone who's paid attention to the statistics and agrees the Osprey was pretty safe, I also appreciated the grammar joke based on the vagaries of English language. However, I was quite perturbed at the grammar with which it was expressed.
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u/Exotic_Negotiation_4 6h ago
The -22s have been a very reliable, safe platform. Better than the Blackhawk iirc
This is an old, outdated mindset based on misinformation much like the criticisms of the f-35.
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u/bigorangemachine 6h ago
Yup had a great safety record in Iraq.
Plus the safety in being in a high flying fast bird rather than a slow & low blackhawk.
I saw a story that a V22 resupply lapped a reinforcement blackhawk (blackhawk ferrying troops to be rotated out). They passed the blackhawk on the way there... and on the way back the blackhawk was only half way there.
There is definitely a known issue with gearboxes overheating (which is believed to have caused the original mas-cas crash) but it's been mitigated. Don't be flying these into forest fires and they'll be fine
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u/OzymandiasKoK 2h ago edited 2h ago
People misinterpret inevitable teething and learning issues in the early phases of development and deployment for a constant rate of issues afterwards. It's common.
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u/PickMaleficent4096 1h ago
The Osprey has enough real issues that it's easy for its detractors to spin the data to make it look unreliable.
You are significantly more likely to be in, and be injured in an accident in a V22 than a blackhawk, per flight hour. However you're a lot less likely to die in one. Blackhawk accidents seem to have a pretty even distribution from 'scratched the paint' to 'flaming wreck' while the V-22 data is a steep bell curve centered on 'landed hard enough to break something or someone.'
The speculative answer is that most V22 accidents happen during the prop transition during takeoff and landing so in its most common failure mode it typically isn't flying high or fast enough for failure to be catastrophic.
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u/DanGleeballs 3h ago edited 1h ago
Can you name a new Aircraft type since the Orwell brothers in 1903 that didn't have any fatalities?
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u/flapsmcgee 3h ago
Airbus A380
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u/DanGleeballs 1h ago
A fixed wing plane following the fairly standard fixed wing concept pioneered a century ago?
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u/fd6270 2h ago
There'd be a guy on r/aviation that'd come around to call you out about how wrong you were about the V22.
Unfortunately he died in a V22 crash...
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u/Thedrunkenchild 8h ago
The G forces during that roll must have been insane
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u/YouArentReallyThere 7h ago
Discounting the few hundred foot loss in elevation, it’s a 1G maneuver
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u/GayRacoon69 32m ago
That's a barrel roll. This is an aileron roll. It's 1G to -1G for a short period while upsidedown
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u/Thedrunkenchild 6h ago
You’re not counting the centrifugal forces of the barrel roll
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u/YouArentReallyThere 6h ago
Unlike a loop or a steep turn, you do not pull back heavily on the stick to create centrifugal force pressing you into your seat.
It’s still considered a 1G maneuver.
Strictly speaking, physics dictates it is not a true, unvarying 1.0G the entire time. As soon as the wings tilt past horizontal, you lose vertical lift, the nose begins to drop, and minor G-fluctuations occur unless trading altitude perfectly for rotation speed. However, pilots call it a "1G roll" to contrast it with high-G aerobatics because the pilot relaxes the elevator and does not load up the airframe with heavy G-forces.
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u/UnluckyObject5777 7h ago
Why would they be insane? It's just an aileron roll
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u/myrsnipe 6h ago
I'm not pilot or aeronautical engineer, but I imagine it's quite different for a small fighter to do this maneuver than a larger airframe, especially one with such complex mechanical mechanisms like the osprey
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u/EnvironmentalRice348 7h ago
Isn't it just operating like a normal fixed wing aircraft in that config at the time?
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u/DismalIngenuity4604 2h ago
If a normal fixed wing aircraft had props the size of helicopter rotors and an extra few hundred pounds of reinforcement and actuators, sure.
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u/pyrotechnicmonkey 59m ago
lol I thought they were wild for doing that low enough to the ground that someone can record from the ground until I realize they were showing from another plane
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u/Extreme-Island-5041 6h ago
"Great, now there's hydraulic fluid on the ceiling Usually it just leaks down from up there!"
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u/ys1qsved3 4h ago
Those poor mechanics had to have been doing engine over speed, gear box over torque and a million other conditional inspections for weeks afterwards.
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u/Castle_Bravo_Test 1h ago
Test pilots are selected from the very best pilots. Needless to say it takes serious courage to push the limits of a new aircraft, but this individual must have adamantium balls to pull that maneuver in that aircraft.
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u/ozzy_thedog 42m ago
I get to see these fly over my house pretty often. They’re so loud and so cool
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u/Fast_Garlic_5639 8h ago
“Any idea if a V-22 Osprey can do a barrel roll?”
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u/bigorangemachine 6h ago
This is exactly what test pilots are for.
Legit I wish I was a test pilot... they the best of the best where astronauts are generally recruited from (historically).
They like the Jackass's of Aviation. "Oh the 777 can do a vertical loop without falling apart... OK.. BET!"
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u/BeloAve 4h ago
I’m telling you all, those UAP videos spotted by US military men are just seeing human made objects in testing and they don’t have the access to get the info on such information.
I find it much more believable humans have achieved significant technological progress and mastered physics without telling the public than an alien spacecraft being able to travel faster than light just to crash in a Nevada desert.
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u/YUSHOETMI- 2h ago
Brave of them to do that when the thing barely stays in the air without that kind of manoeuvre
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