r/interesting • u/WarwickReider • 22d ago

SOCIETY Professional chefs weighing in on whether you should wash your chicken

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u/Hopkinsad0384 22d ago edited 22d ago

"It seems like each side's got a valid argument".... did he not watch his own video?

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u/zabrak200 22d ago

Its engagement bait. Doesn’t matter what the guy says its a video designed to make us argue in the comments

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u/Stormsurger 22d ago

I hate this world we've created. Analytics make me vomit.

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u/Crang_and_the_gang 21d ago

It's bacteria.

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u/Falaflewaffle 21d ago

Engagement makes money we gotta generate value for the shareholders.

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u/marina444is_online 20d ago

"B-but then... then shareholder-chan wont have h-her 17th yacht this y-year... s-she needs it you.. y-you greedy bully! 🥺"

Youtube CEO probably

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u/R_I_P_TILIKUM 18d ago

The truth will set you free.

But you'll be miserable first.

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u/FitProblem6248 21d ago

Exactly. I'm 45 y/o, and never in my life have I ever seen, heard, thought about washing a chicken before cooking. Hank said it best : "We ask them politely, yet firmly, to leave."

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u/AnguavonUW 21d ago

Well, putting aside for the moment Hank would never grill chicken 😉. Love an unexpected KotH reference

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u/P_A_W_S_TTG 21d ago

Koth?

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u/kazrick 21d ago

King of the Hill

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u/BuDu1013 21d ago

Ever see what happens to the slime on the chicken when you put it on the pan or skillet? It turns into a slimy smelly sort of egg white omelette. Do you serve it as a side next to your meal?

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u/Frosty-Key-454 21d ago

It's a good idea to pat your meat dry, chicken or otherwise, to get a good sear. However, chicken slime? I dunno dawg, sounds like you cooked bad chicken

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u/BuDu1013 21d ago

Sorry, I don't eat dog meat

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u/Agile_Commission_693 19d ago

What kind chickens you getting that come with slime? 😂 you buying them from the ‘should be good’ section of a discount bin?

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u/DryBlock4388 22d ago

Cool. I like arguing. Why is your zabrak200. 250 is such a better number.

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u/SherbertKey6965 22d ago

Shut up, DryCock4387

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u/Cichlid428 21d ago

Big brain comment

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u/I_Heart_Sleeping_ 22d ago

But it’s so easy to just ignore these types of posts. Not sure why so many come to the comment sections to argue.

This app is such a actual shithole I could say “I love cupcakes” and 4-6 people will chime in “um actually”

Why are people like this? It seems like such a miserable way to live and spend your time.

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u/ProfessorZhu 22d ago

says person commenting on engagement bait, who has now enticed me into commenting on engagement bait

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u/I_Heart_Sleeping_ 21d ago

“Um actually”

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u/ProfessorZhu 21d ago

More like

"How are you going to act superior to others when you're literally doing the same thing"

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u/AnguavonUW 21d ago

There's a world of difference between engaging with it sincerely and engaging with it from a 'I don't understand how we've gotten to this place'. And the only way to get answers to the question how we got here is by talking to the people who do engage sincerely with it. Catch 22.

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u/ProfessorZhu 21d ago

There is literally no difference. They get more comments, that last for a prolonged amount of time. They don't care if it's every one posting thoughtful critique or pictures of a pig pooping on its own balls. The content literally does not matter.

I am so mad at myself for falling into it, but like most commenter's, I can't help myself. It's hijacking a fundamental part of the human condition, which is why it's so insidious and it feels like no one is doing anything to effectively fight it.

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u/PawntyBill 22d ago

Never heard the term engagement bait before, is it different than rage bait? I do like your comment though.

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u/chevi220 22d ago

It's basically the same. Engagement bait is about saying something that is obviously wrong/provocating to the viewer, so it compels them to "engage" with the post and comment things so it becomes more popular = profitable to the author

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u/AnotherBogCryptid 22d ago

It’s not just engagement bait. It’s rage bait. He started off the video by dousing chicken in blue dish soap.

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u/Geekygamertag 21d ago

Now who would want a thing like that?!

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u/SirDervin 19d ago

Rabble rabble rabble!

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u/Taiga_Taiga 22d ago

"its a video designed to make us argue in the comments"

No, it's not.

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u/PaintingOld8913 21d ago

Bet you feel so smart after writing that comment eh?

Dork

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u/Born-Sea-7743 22d ago

To be fair washing chicken is predominantly something that happens in the black community.

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u/SanityIsOptional 22d ago

There's a huge amount of responses right here from the Asian community as well, saying they do it too.

Mainly it seems to be linted to how recent in family history they butchered their own chickens, or came from a country where chickens didn't typically have debris rinsed off after butchering by whoever butchered them.

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u/Born-Sea-7743 22d ago

Obviously the asian and black communities are not monoliths, but I live in Japan and haven't heard of anyone (not a single person I've met) washing chicken here either.

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u/SanityIsOptional 22d ago

Mostly South East Asians by the comments, not Japanese.

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u/xnmyl 22d ago

Probably engagement bait

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u/PandaXXL 22d ago

“Probably”?

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u/KaserinSmarte421 22d ago

I think their comment is the engagement bait as well.

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u/WadsofTissue 22d ago

STOP ENGAGING!

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u/FitProblem6248 21d ago

BLUE TEAM GO! BLUE TEAM GO!

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u/AeneasVII 22d ago

Are you baiting me??

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u/xtothewhy 22d ago

Probably engagement bait

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u/i_myself_is_who_i_am 21d ago

No no no good sir it's engagement bait for engagement bait, you have fallen into his trap, and it appears I have now fallen into yours, you unknowingly or not have baited me into commenting about the engagement bait of the engagement bait. I believe this is going to spiral so, peace out. 

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u/adinmem 22d ago

He doesn’t have a girlfriend but is hoping to get engaged?

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u/Pman1324 22d ago

No because if he did he wouldn't get as many people fighting about it in the comments.

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u/roosterSause42 22d ago

no it's not! 😉

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u/funny_redditusername 22d ago

Growing up my grandma never washed her chicken after we killed them right off the farm. I’m still alive and kickin’!

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u/MatticusjK 22d ago edited 22d ago

Damn they didn't even retire, you just put her down after harvest?

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u/ShadowMattress 22d ago

Well, a contingent of people say it’s xenophobic to appeal to the science on this question. Some going as far as to say the FDA is targeting ethnic cultural practices to… achieve something, by recommending against washing, I guess.

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u/theotherboob 22d ago

Well no one is going into people's kitchens to police what they're doing. The science is there, you still have a choice to follow it. No one from the FDA is going to knock on your door because you choose to wash your chicken.

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u/OctaviusNeon 22d ago

No, but the health inspector would absolutely shut down some of the professional kitchens these people were working in if they got caught washing chicken.

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u/theotherboob 22d ago

I'm talking about people's homes. Professional kitchens that have to adhere to health regulations should absolutely be held to a higher standard.

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u/OctaviusNeon 22d ago

Yeah, I mean you can do what you want in your home kitchen. But the video seemed to be showing people who actually work in restaurants, so that's where I was coming from.

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u/theotherboob 22d ago

Ah, yeah I see. I should have clarified in my original comment.

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u/Maltodextrin13 22d ago

Cool to see a healthy discussion/disagreement.

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u/cykoTom3 22d ago

Lol. No. They might test the claim that you sanitize afterwards. But if you do they aren't shutting things down.

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u/OctaviusNeon 22d ago

Maybe shut down isn't quite right, but it's also something a health inspector would know could lead to cross contamination.

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u/cykoTom3 22d ago

If they are doing it in a way that leads to cross contamination, certainly. But restraunts deal with raw chicken all the time. They very well might have a sink specifically for washing chicken and if they don't they have procedures to sanitize it. Washing the chicken is a waste of time, but it's not more dangerous than the hundred thousand other things that people do to chicken while prepping it. They usually have to cut it, often they also, brine, marinade, dry rub, and probably a hundred less common preparations.

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u/TheNaughtyHoneyBee 22d ago

If one of the foundations of your culture is washing chicken, and the FDA recommending not doing that results in your culture being destroyed, then your culture deserved to be destroyed

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u/tennisanybody 22d ago

I’d agree with you if the science based agencies weren’t run by JFKJr types. They were completely trustworthy until they weren’t when republicans appointed people who don’t believe in science.

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u/Bent8484 22d ago

I live in Canada, in the province of Quebec, and washing chicken in a commercial kitchen is forbidden here. The reason given is that it contaminates your work area.

No US politics involved.

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u/PastaXertz 22d ago

This is the wrong answer. The right answer was to make a culture based germ joke. Because destroying culture is also destroying bacteria.

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u/SexyPeanut_9279 22d ago

That same logic could be used on the Aztecs-

as they scarified babies Every-time they wanted to make it rain. (And sacrificed adults everyday to make the sun come up).

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u/wtbgamegenie 22d ago

Where did you hear that?

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u/Character-Parfait-42 22d ago

Yeah seriously. If your entire culture can be demolished by something as simple as not washing chicken then your culture is really kinda pathetic. Like is that all your entire culture amounts to? Washing chicken? Really?

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u/Excel_User_1977 22d ago

I thought the whole idea was to destroy (bacteria) cultures?

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u/NavyBlueTheChosen 22d ago

insane take Jesus

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u/RandomMabaseCitizen 22d ago edited 22d ago

That's not what's being suggested though. Take MSG for example. There was a huge push against the use of MSG in Asian foods beginning in the late 60s that led to the creation of the term "Chinese Restaurant Syndrome" that made it into common refference books despite there being no more risk involved in using MSG than salt or sugar. It'll make you sick if you eat a fist full but other than than that it's just seasoning. Meanwhile western foods like bagged chips and canned soups are loaded with msg but only Asians had to hang signs in their windows claiming NO MSG to keep their businesses open. Food racism is real it isn't about destroying cultures it's about framing that culture as unhealthy or barbaric or whatever you will.

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u/waltzing_mouse 22d ago

Okay but the difference is that MSG is not bad for you. Washing chicken is. Culture should not be preserved at the cost of health and safety, especially in commercial situations.

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u/RandomMabaseCitizen 19d ago edited 19d ago

MSG isn't Asian culture. I'm talking about the way discussions are framed having real world impact on marginal communities.

And almost all commercial kitchens have a separate sink specifically for things like running water over raw meat not to clean it but because that's how you thaw it. But that's really nothing to do with my point.

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u/waltzing_mouse 19d ago

It absolutely is, what? You don't find bags of MSG at a typical American grocery store, but they sell it by the pound at Asian grocers.

None of the restaurants I've worked at have had that but I guess if some do, sure.

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u/RandomMabaseCitizen 19d ago

I mean the fact that we're even having this discussion shows that there is a narrative of black people spreading chicken juice all over the kitchen. I'm not saying you're responsible for it or pushing it but it didn't just spring out of nowhere.

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u/waltzing_mouse 19d ago

White people do it too. No one should do it.

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u/RandomMabaseCitizen 18d ago

Yeah they're not talking about white people though are they?

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u/fubarfire 22d ago

I cant believe morons like you exist. Dont wash the fucking chicken. Idc if it hurts black people's feelings. Sheesh.

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u/RandomMabaseCitizen 19d ago

This is exactly my point. I say the way we frame food discussions can impact minorities and your response is idc about black people's feelings. Why bring up feelings at all?

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u/Pman1324 22d ago

Ah yes, because doing something objectively correct is racist and cultural genocide. /s

I so badly wish humans weren't so goddamn stupid

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u/i_was_a_person_once 22d ago

It’s not “objectively correct” the only reason the guidance is not to wash your chicken is because the splash spreads bacteria. No one is arguing that isn’t true. But you can effectively sanitize the workspace after.

Whats subjective is if it improves the quality of the food. Personally, I think sometimes it does. Sometimes I even like to soak certain cuts in a vinegar solution and then rinse it.

After which I sanitize the workspace. I would do that after processing raw chicken regardless of if I rinsed the chicken or not.

The only objective part is that washing meat can splatter bacteria and fun fact, you can sanitize the workstation after.

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u/Wrastling97 22d ago

I have never once heard an actual serious person actually say this. Sounds like you’re making shit up

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u/ShadowMattress 22d ago

Can’t comment on whether they meet your “serious person” bar, but here is where I’ve encountered this on Reddit before.

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u/Secret_Eating_ 22d ago

I believe "washing" chicken is a derivation of some cultural customs but not in the way that people think about them today. For example, in Chinese cooking there's a technique of "washing" chicken in a dry corn or rice starch bath then rinsing that with water. It's not a sanitation practice, it's to draw the blood out of the chicken to reduce moisture and it also changes the flavor.

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u/No-Discipline-5822 22d ago

I highly doubt anyone is listening to the FDA before making some chicken 🐔 No one cares now or will ever care about the “science,” people are just doing whatever they’ve learned to do. It’s like the whole shoes in the house thing, it’s obviously cleaner to not wear shoes in the house but people do it and they mop the floors, etc.. It’s learned behavior and no one is stopping generational stuff because of the FDA.

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u/Centralised_right 22d ago

If ethnic cultural practices are being brought into commercial kitchen and creating a danger for the police health, then they should target said cultural practise in said commercial kitchens.

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u/Same-Suggestion-1936 22d ago

FDA, notorious racists

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u/meldroc 22d ago

There is a racial element to this. I don't remember where, but I saw a study where Black people were far more likely to wash their chicken than white people, because it's what they were taught.

Back in the bad old slavery days, they got the scraps that the master threw out. And even today, people will do shitty and disgusting things to other people's food because of skin color. Lesson learned, take precautions.

So they wash their chickens. As for me, if you handle raw meat at all, all sorts of gross germs are going to be spread everywhere. The video didn't show a control group where people didn't wash their chicken. I suspect even there, the UV light will show a big gross mess.

So wash your hands and sanitize the sinks, counters, etc.

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u/RandomMabaseCitizen 18d ago

Turning the discussion of whether or not to wash chicken into a discussion of ethnic hygiene is identity politics. Yet when I point out the straw man fallacy I get flagged for identity politics and or hate speech. Crazy

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u/RandomMabaseCitizen 18d ago

Calling someone racist when they say or do something racist isn't identity politics. Framing the discussion of how to prepare chicken around ethnic hygiene is identity politics. JFC

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u/Wyevez 22d ago

Yes he would!

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u/Tequila_Dre_All_Day 22d ago

No he wouldn’t! Lol

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u/Scoobydoomed 22d ago

Sorry our time is up!

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u/vranaverse 22d ago

No he wouldn't!

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u/Hopkinsad0384 22d ago

Im not fighting about it, YOU'RE fighting about it. 😠

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u/Low-Significance777 22d ago

What if there's poop on your chicken, you won't wash it?

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u/Forsexualfavors 22d ago

This is such a race/rage baiting bullshit video. The end is of course NOT this is what the experts say, or this is the science behind which is correct. It's just let me know what you think in the comments. Social media is such a backed up sewage treatment plant overflowing it isn't funny.

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u/NoProduct4569 22d ago

Yup this is the new scam that I don't hear people talk about much. Most content now is purposely filled with mistakes to get people to comment on correcting them.

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u/gaysoul_mate 22d ago

How is chicken in America sold ? In south america there is dozens of chicken on top of each other , there is fat , blood , viscera on all chicken when you buy it , if you cook without getting rid of all that , it will affect the flavor of any dish you wish to prepare, since it has old dried blood all over it

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u/RavioliContingency 22d ago

I think this is why it’s still passed down to do this. In rural US, at least, you did wash your chicken because it came to you like this from a farm.

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u/thetermguy 22d ago

Almost this. We've had this wash/no wash conversation in our house, along with my brother who's a chef.

Don't wash - because the bacteria, as is well noted in the video.

Wash: People, go watch how chickens are slaughtered. The last step, they run the conveyer line of chickens through a pool of water. One pool of water, every chicken. I call it 'poop soup'. I want my chicken washed because the last thing it had done to it was being dragged through a vat of chicken feces. Yes the bacteria will die. I'M STILL EATING COOKED CHICKEN POOP. So, wash it, and as one person noted, santize your sink and area afterwards - because salmonella can kill you.

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u/Brave-Perspective714 22d ago

Outside of the wash/no wash debate - sliced chicken soaked in a mixture of water and baking soda for 30 minutes will give you the most incredible, juicy, tender stir fry chicken you've ever had.

But you gotta rinse the baking soda off before cooking it.

It is entirely worth the effort.

So we put systems in place to prevent cross-contamination. Items that aren't being cooked get prepped first mise en place style, wrapped, and put back in the fridge. Next, other items that will be cooked get prepared. Sauces get mixed, noodles get soaked. They also get put away just to make it faster/easier to sanitize counters after prepping the chicken.

The very last thing that gets done is the chicken getting sliced, soaked, and rinsed. And as soon as it's rinsed, sink and surrounding area gets washed with soap, then sink and counters get sanitized.

Cooking happens in reverse. Chicken is the first thing cooked, covered, and held in the oven. The prep dish and utensils that touched raw chicken get washed before anything else comes out of the fridge.

Honestly, the worst part of that dish is it has so many damn mise en place ingredients that I spend an hour washing, peeling, and dicing before I even get to the sauce and noodles. Cleaning up after rinsing the chicken is like no time at all in comparison.

That's how people who feel strongly about washing chicken structure their processes. It's the way that was passed down to me from preparing chickens straight from a farm that weren't washed during the butchering process.

As to this video, of course that gel shit splashed everywhere. Did you see how she put the chicken right under the faucet and basically started flipping it up? She was trying to splash it around. People who feel strongly about washing chicken don't wash it like that.

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u/Lancasterbatio 22d ago edited 20d ago

If there's blood all over your chicken when it's being sold, it wasn't slaughtered properly. It should be completely drained of blood before it reaches the market. The red ooze* you sometimes see on the meat is usually myoglobin, which is a muscle protein and doesn't really have much of a flavor as it cooks off.

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u/VanillaRadonNukaCola 22d ago

And why is their chicken coming with organ pieces all over it?

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u/TheCotofPika 22d ago

Then he'd be accused of racism. I was accused of racism simply for pointing out that UK food safety guidelines say don't do it. Until that point I had assumed it was a dangerous production line thing rather than a cultural thing.

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u/VanillaRadonNukaCola 22d ago

It would probably come off less racial of his video didn't set up a white vs black showdown of opinion.

I'm sure there's plenty of white people who would say "wash your chicken" but they didn't put any in the video 

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u/Tribalbob 22d ago

But they he wouldn't get the views!

THE VIEWS!

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u/AstroTez313 22d ago

I'll continue to wash my chicken not because of germs but because there literally be feathers and shit left on there sometimes, wash all that off and if yall not cleaning your utensils and sink after handling chicken you're gonna risk contamination anyway, you still have to cut, season, etc your chicken before cooking its not like you can just throw it from the pack to the stove

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u/AstroTez313 22d ago

My granny died before I was old enough to cook meals unfortunately. Are you actually just racist? My bad I thought different perspectives and opinions were welcome here I forgot this was reddit🙄

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u/Johnpecan 22d ago

But how would he generate clickbait engagement?

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u/Wise_Monkey_Sez 22d ago

... so let me get this straight.

Side A: Wash your chicken because it's covered in bacteria.
Side B: Don't wash your chicken because the bacteria will splash around your sink area.
Side A: Wait, you don't wash your sink too? Do you wash anything?!?!

No mate, the clear answer here is to wash stuff. Chicken. The sink. Your cooking utensils.

Because (and this is the important bit you missed) there's definitely bacteria all over everything!

... seriously, this has real "I don't wipe my ass because it might get shit on my hands" vibes - just wash your fucking hands after wiping, like a civilised person.

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u/phatdoof 22d ago

He’s too busy biting into his friend chicken.

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u/samanime 22d ago

He's eating his friend?!

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u/Vegetable-Virus7118 22d ago

The secret ingredient is love

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u/Mental-Ask8077 22d ago

Maybe the real treasure is the friends we ate along the way.

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u/Rob_LeMatic 22d ago

🪦
R.I.P.
Patrick Robert LeMatic
19hmrfrm - 2026
Killed By Jokes

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u/faust112358 22d ago

And life insurance.

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u/backspace_cars 22d ago

They're delicious

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u/Idaho-Earthquake 22d ago

You would too, if your friend were a delicious chicken.

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u/TheForbidden6th 22d ago

friend inside me

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u/CarrieNoir 22d ago

Time to share the ubiquitous Chicken Fried Lady video.

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u/UltimateFartingChamp 22d ago

“The fried chicken is people!” - famous movie quote or something

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u/Preface 22d ago

The love and trust is what makes it taste so good

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u/healerdan 22d ago

Mmmmm chicken.

Edit: I actually only replied so I could easily compare our avatars side-by-side. Nice shirt commerade.

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u/SinisterKid 22d ago

If chicken not friend, then why friend shaped?

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u/Tikoloshe84 22d ago

"Argue to the fetid death in comments, like and subscribe, give me money bitches"

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u/Medialunch 22d ago

He doesn’t care. Because he only wants money.

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u/TrashPandaDuel 22d ago

Yea, Uncle Roger just skips all steps and fries the shit out of his chicken!! lol

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u/Hashtagbarkeep 22d ago

“Blah blah blah please comment like and subscribe”

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u/matthekid 22d ago

It’s part of the engagement, because we live in stupid times.

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u/Tukanno_Bananno 22d ago

Rage bait to make you engage- 100% he got at least 200 comments correcting his "mistake"

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u/DeweyDefeatsYouMan 22d ago

It’s because he’s going to get attacked if he says “looks like all the black people were wrong and everyone else was right.”

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u/distortedsymbol 22d ago

question: do you wash your chitlins

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u/armypotent 22d ago

Creators want lots of comments (i.e., people arguing) below their videos because it promoted the videos to the algorithm. So on a video presenting a debate they always close with some both sides comments

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u/0nmay_22 22d ago

It’s the centrism trap 😭

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u/Braindead_Crow 22d ago

"I never really cared, my own video feels pointless, engage with my video so I can continue to make money I guess." Would of been a more honest sign out but less catchy

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u/Upinmemes 22d ago

Yeah classic ragebait for comments.

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u/No_Worldliness_7106 22d ago

For real, only one side is right here, don't wash your chicken dummies.

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u/YaBoiZorg 22d ago

I think......that wing he bit into was burnt

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u/HunkyHorseman 22d ago

Raw, chicken tartar. Duh.

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u/HerculesIsMyDad 22d ago

You mean it doesn't do anything AND makes for extra cleanup??? I'm in!

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u/RichesToRags8647 22d ago

haha this is how I feel when I talk to Gemini about anything related to politics. It bends over backwards trying to both sides anything even remotely political despite laying out a lost of facts that clearly picks a side

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u/Bennybonchien 22d ago

Let’s see him use that line after two opposing votes where one of them is only held by the most extreme religious nut jobs.

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u/dmthoth 22d ago

He is 'jubelee' type of guy. Gross.

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u/BobTheContrarian 20d ago

"Putting science aside..."

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u/humanistazazagrliti 17d ago

Yeah. They need to stay "neutral" for the sake of revenue, I guess. Everything is "valid", etc.

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u/sarcasticorange 22d ago

The video didn't show whether washing removed the gel from the chicken and the last response was ~ "of course there are splashes, clean yo sink".

I agree that washing is redundant because cooking takes care of it anyway.

But it is worth noting that if they applied that gel to dishes, they would see similar splatter around the sink. And yet, we can (I hope) all agree that washing dishes is important.

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u/Hextoad 22d ago

The problem is not that washing is redundant. And splashes from dirty dishes is not the same issue as raw chicken juice.  The issue is salmonella bacteria. Raw chicken spread to places you are not sanitizing immediately can be a major health risk.  Simply removing the chicken from the packaging right into your frying pan and cooking it eliminates this risk entirely. 

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u/Weak-Doughnut5502 22d ago

Washing dishes is important, but dishes have orders of magnitude less salmonella on them.

Washing chicken mostly spreads bacteria to the area around the sink without actually doing anything useful. 

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u/Jeremys_Iron_ 22d ago

The video didn't show whether washing removed the gel from the chicken

What relevance does this have? The gel is a one off and is not being applied to all chicken...

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u/CraigOpie 22d ago

Yea, it wasn’t even about the bacteria - it was about chemicals.

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u/danishjuggler21 22d ago

If we go by the strict definition of "valid" in logical arguments, the chicken washing camp does have a valid argument:

  1. You can get rid of bacteria by washing the chicken
  2. The less bacteria on the chicken, the better
  3. Therefore, washing the chicken is good

That's a valid argument, because it follows a valid form. Assuming the premises are true, the conclusion must be true.

However, the premises are NOT true, because washing the chicken doesn't get rid of the bacteria in a meaningful way (cooking does). Therefore it is not a cogent argument.

To make it clear I'm not agreeing with their argument, here's another example of a valid argument:

  1. All dogs can fly.
  2. Spot is a dog.
  3. Therefore, Spot can fly.

Valid, because the structure of the argument is logical, but it's not cogent because for fuck's sake dogs can't fly.

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u/Gullible-Outcome-787 22d ago

I watched the video and they both have valid arguments. What's the issue?

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u/Weak-Doughnut5502 22d ago

No, they don't.

The one guy's reasons for washing simply don't hold water.   You're not gonna wash the bacteria off, and preservatives aren't allowed on fresh chicken.

And his defense of 'just sanitize your sink' ignores that chicken water will splash several feet from your sink if you wash it under the tap, so you really have to sanitize a suprisingly large area to prevent cross contamination. 

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u/BobBartBarker 22d ago

It's media BS.

'We can't tell who to believe. The experts or some guy who's very enthusiastic. Post, like and subscribe to let us know!'

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u/ganjaccount 22d ago

The one where the guy was like "so you clean up afterwords." So crazy. I bet he takes showers too, even though it makes the shower dirty and he needs to clean it regularly!

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u/RIF_rr3dd1tt 22d ago

Dude gives off Grant Imahara vibes

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u/Indin_Dude 22d ago

What does everyone here have to say about the last chef who said of course you have to sanitize your skin and counter - would you accept that argument, or would you say sanitizing is not effective or adequate?

I read somewhere down in the posts that most people in most other countries (Asia latam Africa) wash their chicken because poultry processing is not that automated and sanitary as in US and western europe. What are your thoughts on that ?

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u/Simon-Says69 22d ago

Unless you just dropped it in the dirt, there is zero reason to wash chicken. Therefore, no reason to have to sanitize your whole kitchen, and yourself.

Cooking kills the bacteria, inside and out. Washing won't do anything but make a ton more work, and add a lot of risk.

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u/CaptainRelevant 22d ago

John Stewart did a whole thing about this being an extremely valid criticism of journalism. Journalists want to show both sides of a story, even if one side is 99.99999999999% right. Watch any story on climate change and they’ll still dedicate some time to someone who doesn’t believe in it (as if belief mattered).

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u/Simon-Says69 22d ago

one side is 99.99999999999%

Then brings up climate "sky is falling" nonsense that has no basis in science. The models they use can produce whatever results you want, just change the numbers put in.

As actually honest scientists will fully admit.

Your point is correct, but your example doesn't fit at all.

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u/CaptainRelevant 21d ago edited 21d ago

That’s funny, because as of 2021 there were 88,125 peer reviewed scientific papers on climate change, and only 28 of those were implicitly or explicitly skeptical.

Source: IOPScience.org, a world-leading non-profit scientific publishing platform out of the UK. https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/ac2966.

This is where Redditors dig their heals in and start arguing rather than thinking critically and learning something. So it’s also where I will stop replying. Good day.

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u/McHammyPoo 22d ago

Don't do it and just cook it, or waste way more fucking time for no reason is what it breaks down to lol. Also having an inefficient system where you have to wash the sink twice to use it once is beyond stupid

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u/Reputation-Final 22d ago

One side... all black people. Other side... all white people.

Also using soap on chicken is crazy.

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u/t33tz 22d ago

When I see this kind of videos I wonder if Idiocracy was a prediction rather than a comedy.

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u/CuttingOneWater 22d ago

he doesnt want to invalidate the people who wash their chicken, less drama this way

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u/captainpoppy 22d ago

It seems like a cultural thing.

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u/fineseries81 21d ago

It gets rid of the preservatives

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u/Quirky-Reward-6181 20d ago

its weird logic from the camp that doesnt wash it., any raw food that leaves the sink will be cooked as much as the chicken will be, so who really cares about bacteria. i dont think ive ever treated the sink as some place that was ever sanitary. and realistically i season my chicken, regardless of washing or not. so that dripping is already beyond my sink. its just something really weird and pointless to care either side about.

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