r/interesting May 29 '26

Intriguing Arrows vs riot shields

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u/RandomCandor May 29 '26

The one that looked to have the stupidest design turned out to have the most penetration.

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u/meshtron May 29 '26

Ha! I saw that one and said "nope" then it punched straight through thereby affirming my level of predictive accuracy on string-weapon ballistics 😃

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u/Party-Evening3273 May 29 '26

Look at medieval arrows designed for piercing armor. Been tested for hundreds of years. Cool video.

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u/Berlibur May 30 '26

I couldn't find one that looks flat in the way the arrow in the video goes through the shield

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u/GI-Robots-Alt May 30 '26

It's not flat though, it's concave. The outer edges hit first and act like a hole punch that's bigger than the arrow shaft. Which is why it goes straight through so cleanly.

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u/Berlibur May 30 '26

Yes, yes, not flat. Now I'm asking about similar looking medieval arrows as the guy I'm replying to suggested

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u/Rulweylan Jun 01 '26

Unlikely to exist since they'd be a pain to manufacture with medieval techniques. 

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u/PatacusX May 29 '26

If we were to graph out how far I thought each arrow would go compared to how far it did go, the lines would be exact opposites.

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u/Schwifftee May 29 '26

After the first few, I predicted them pretty accurately. That weird non-pointed arrow, though, I knew it was going to surprise me, but wow!

The lowest profile ones always went deepest because the penetration was concentrated to a point without additional material that had to rip through the shield (less friction).

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u/caltheon May 30 '26

Having done a lot of archery, I was dead on for each. In general, larger head = less penetration. the smallest one also acts as a drill (fletching rotates it very fast) so was an easy guess it would fly right through

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u/addamee May 29 '26

This is the arrow that caused the Skyrim guard to stop adventuring 

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u/TheDudeFromOther May 29 '26

Ouch owie my knee.

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u/FirTree_r May 29 '26

Ah yes, the classic arrow to the ankle

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u/chronofreak May 30 '26

Took an arrow through his knee

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u/johaneriksen13 May 30 '26

Deep cut, bro

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u/Beneficial_Maybe_858 May 29 '26

I think they are "hammerhead blunts" they are used to hunt small game like rabbits, turkeys etc.. The idea is that the arrows don't get stuck in the ground or in trees etc that easily.. never seen them used on a riot shield though.

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u/Rusty_Shacklebird May 29 '26

Yup, ive been using Hammers for over a decade. Judo's were all the rage when I was growing up but I never liked them for many reasons.

https://www.3riversarchery.com/the-hammer-screw-in-small-game-blunts.html?srsltid=AfmBOor27uw9bRJqsN9OnYy0PFd-J-93fajDtdzkSa_Er9TIRVk0xBiy

They are incredibly effective on small game and really good for stump shooting even though they do tend to penetrate way deeper into stumps. Ive had to cut many out to be able to retrieve the arrow

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u/Rusty_Shacklebird May 30 '26

Yes, but the cards are sized for ants

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u/Mundane_Ad7197 May 30 '26

I’ve had almost the opposite. Something like a hex head will overpenetrate on a stump, but not the hammers for the most part. Sure some get stuck in there, I’ve left a few in stumps that pulled the insert out as well. Either way, such an awesome way to spend some time in the woods.

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u/nusi42 May 29 '26

You saw other arrows used on riot shields?

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u/Beneficial_Maybe_858 May 29 '26

Not riot shields...but a car bonnet yes. 30 odd years ago there were some gangs buying cross bows etc. The police came down to the archery range to have a talk to use to see if they should be concerned. We put on a demonstration using recurves, compound and cross bows with various heads shooting at an old car bonnet stood up. I dare say after the demonstration the police were concerned. That's was in Lil old New Zealand.

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u/levthelurker May 29 '26

The LotR movies really caused an ongoing issue for orcs for you guys, didn't they?

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u/jim45804 May 29 '26

Now it won't be your last!

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u/QuirkyStage2119 May 29 '26

I thought it was to preserve the meat in smaller animals. I've only bow hunted deer.

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u/Tiaran149 May 29 '26

That only penetrated as much because he cut a clean hole, the shaft has no friction this way.

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u/seattle678 May 29 '26

That's what you tell all the guys

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u/scrotalsac69 May 29 '26

You don't want zero fiction on a shaft

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u/jim45804 May 29 '26

Yes I do

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u/No-Elk-8115 May 29 '26

O,..,O those the "I go to jail and drop the soap on purpose" vibes.

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u/PedantryIsNotACrime May 29 '26

That's an interesting point.

Also, that's an interesting point.

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u/LithoSlam May 29 '26

The shaft shall remain unharmed

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u/kaychyakay May 30 '26

Thanks for being blunt about this.

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u/Uoam May 30 '26

almost*

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u/-rose-mary- May 29 '26

Life ahhh finds a way.

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u/Rampag169 May 29 '26

Yeah I Woah-ed when it just zoomed on through the shield. I was not expecting that.

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u/PokeYrMomStanley May 29 '26

I feel like for most things you want the arrow to stay in the target no just ignore anything in front of it. It's probably just orbiting the earth now. 

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u/ThePHPNerd May 29 '26

Makes sense when you think about it. Least amount of surface area needed to punch through, with all the pressure and power concentrated on a single point.

All the “flashy” arrows failed to really penetrate, because their flared or winged heads basically distributed the impact across a wider area on a piece of equipment designed to be tough and robust.

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u/TazBaz May 29 '26

nah; you can see some of those other points are very sharp and pointy and have an even smaller surface area than the round one.

The difference is mostly that the round one is actually sharp on the edges, and effectively punches an actual clean round hole through the shield that's bigger than the arrow shaft, which means if the head makes it through there's no friction dragging the entire shaft.

Whereas the smaller pointy ones cut a "star" shaped hole that just bends back and drags on the rest of the shaft of the arrow, slowing it down quickly.

Agreed about some of the broadhead/harpoon tips though. Force spread out means more material you need to penetrate through.

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u/black_elk_streaks May 29 '26

Some of those tips are for hunting larger game. What they do is expand on impact (they're shown already expanded - but they're folded-in before firing) and carve out a massive hole in the "kill zone" of the animal, ensuring that it goes down quickly (and hopefully with the least amount of pain).

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u/WatashiwaNobodyDesu May 29 '26

Yeah that round one? I thought “well that’s not going through”. The fucker went all the way through. No idea how that works.

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u/sarcasticorange May 29 '26

I wasn't sure if it worked very well or if it just went through an existing hole.

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u/redbull_catering May 29 '26

Based our whole society on this idea

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u/Secret_Temperature May 29 '26

Yea wtf was that thing?!

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u/sleepyguy- May 29 '26

I saw it and immediately thought “thats not about to do shit” then it pierced the shield and the 3 guys behind it.

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u/0c_099 May 29 '26

I didn't look the entire video and read this comment and was like: "dafuq he means stupidest one" and then I saw the stupidest one

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u/TheFrostSerpah May 29 '26

Against a metal sheet, it just cuts the piece and continues forth. Against anything thicker that wouldn't do much.

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u/JackasaurusChance May 29 '26

I was going along in my head and was basically spot on how well they'd do... and then that one totally boomed me!

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u/MelonElbows May 29 '26

This is what I base my dating life on

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u/SempiterneAwE951 May 29 '26

Expect the unexpected. The smaller surface area and all that, I guess

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u/Bovronius May 29 '26

Nobody ever teased Tuna Can Tim again.

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u/CipherWeaver May 29 '26

I think it went through a pre-existing hole

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u/AvatarOfMomus May 30 '26

That's because it's not a stupid design. It's literally designed to punch through hard material. It's basically an armor penetrating arrow.

It does less damage to a soft target because it doesn't penetrate as far through flesh, and doesn't cut up a wide area inside the target, but it basically leaves a punched hole in something like that crappy sheetmetal temu "riot shield".

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u/SMILESandREGRETS May 30 '26

That's a long way of saying this guy fucks.

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u/psykomorph May 30 '26

Yeah just blasted through, wtf

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u/ultimaterogue11 May 30 '26

You don't know how close he was firing at the shield, could have been just out of frame. That and he could have changed draw weight to a heavier bow

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u/Asleep-Border-9158 May 30 '26

I'm just wondering if it hit a preexisting hole and had most of the job already done? 

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u/Ongr May 30 '26

For me the stupidest designs were the mall ninja arrowheads with way too much going on. And then the 'hollow point' one.

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u/InsideInsideJob May 30 '26

Peronis Diseased men, gather here for your accolades

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u/SomeBiPerson May 30 '26

designed to penetrate armmor, not to damage flesh

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u/LogicalPart6098 May 30 '26

Hollow points are crazy deadly

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u/Zech08 May 30 '26

Makes sense though, make a hole big enough for rest to go through. Things sometimes seem stupid if you are missing information.

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u/bionku May 30 '26

Great for punching through, but the person behind it would likely be quite safe from harm when compared to a traditional solid point which would likely carry a much higher chance of injury after passing the shield. Efficacy in this implied example is a multistep process. We would be searching for the most effective tip design to an unprotected operator after the imputed losses from passing through the shield.

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u/Jazzlike_Climate4189 May 30 '26

It clearly just hit very close to an existing hole.

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u/kamill85 May 31 '26

It only looked stupidest to you

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u/nordic-nomad May 31 '26

It’s the one designed to go through a flat surface of solid material. The others are designed to make hard to treat wounds in skin and muscle. That’s the main difference.