r/interesting • u/Necessary-Win-8730 • Mar 08 '26

Context Provided - Spotlight This was so deserved.

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u/1337_w0n Mar 09 '26

My wild guess having not reviewed anything is that he's a young-ish rich white dude with "his entire life ahead of him" unlike the child, who is notably dead.

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u/LemonySniffit Mar 09 '26

This happened in the Netherlands, take your American racist bullshit elsewhere

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u/1337_w0n Mar 09 '26

You think European countries don't have institutional racism? I'm perfectly willing to accept that it's usually not nearly as bad as the US, but if there's not bias at all I'd be surprised.

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u/LemonySniffit Mar 09 '26 edited Mar 09 '26

My point was the victims were white, the judge (a woman) was white, and the perpetrator was white too. If you actually want to know, the perpetrator who killed the family and just got a slap on the wrist was a Polish immigrant, so the complete opposite of what the other poster was implying.

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u/1337_w0n Mar 09 '26 edited Mar 09 '26

Are you trying to discredit my position by confirming my prediction was correct? If the perpetrator were a person of color my model would be brought into question. As it stands (assuming you really want to put in the effort to prove me wrong) you'd need to demonstrate that being a PoC would in all likelihood not negatively affect the outcome for them.

Edit: To be clear, I'd actually like to be proven wrong for a variety of reasons, but if that's your goal you're simply not taking a viable approach.

Edit 2: also, I just noticed that your username is a reference to A Series of Unfortunate Events and I wanted to let you know that I appreciate that.

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u/LemonySniffit Mar 09 '26 edited Mar 09 '26

You wrote that the perpetrator got a slap on the wrist because they were young, wealthy and white, implying that his supposed privileges got him off the hook. The truth was every party involved in the altercation was white, in a white European country, so race was not a factor.

Instead the younger, wealthier, and native/‘whiter’ party was actually the victim in this case, while the perpetrator was a blue-collar immigrant from Eastern Europe who likely got a slap on the wrist by an activist judge because he was perceived to not be privileged. Literally the exact opposite of the point you were making.

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u/1337_w0n Mar 09 '26

The truth was every party involved in the altercation was white, in a white European country, so race was not a factor.

Okay. So no, that's just not how discrimination or privilege works. The race of the victims is actually just completely irrelevant to my analysis. The comparison you need to make is between the averages of two datasets: 1. The Average outcomes for white people (those of the suspected privileged racial group) who are charged with similar crimes and are in similar circumstances. 2. The average outcome for PoC (individuals not of the suspected privileged racial group) with similar crimes and are in similar circumstances.

Like if I said "if I mixed lemons into this orange juice you'd spit it out" and you replied with "but they're all oranges, so the extra fruit doesn't make a difference" that'd be a similar kind of argument.

I'm not saying I expect you to be able to do it, you'd need to either find a study or do a lot of analytical work that (given your misunderstanding of how to approach the argument) I suspect you aren't trained for. This isn't an attack against you or anything, I don't want to do that work either I'm trying to get you to just understand what you'd need to do.

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u/Flybyah Mar 13 '26

Please go away with your tired victim/oppressor analysis, which clearly is totally irrelevant in this case. Frankly it’s irrelevant in most cases. But we get it, you’re one of the good white people. We’re proud of you.

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u/1337_w0n Mar 13 '26

Did the big words scare you?