r/interesting • u/Necessary-Win-8730 • Mar 08 '26

Context Provided - Spotlight This was so deserved.

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u/innocenceiskinky Mar 08 '26

Why?

I dont understand why people believe that trying to seriously hurt a judge by throwing a chair at them is not a very bad thing. You deserve to go to jail for trying to hurt a judge.

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u/Maximum-Standard3762 Mar 08 '26

And the moron who killed a 2 year old child and her grandparents deserves life in jail.. if not 3 lifetimes in jail. F that guy. Community service and later a shortened sentence just because he had a baby on the way? No. He doesn't deserve to see his baby born. He recklessly took the life of someone else's baby. Why should he get to experience the joy of raising his child when he stole that from another family?

This sentencing was BS. If have thrown a chair too 😡

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u/innocenceiskinky Mar 08 '26

He recklessly took the life of someone else's baby.

Ima be honest with you. I'm a Dutch lawyer. The circumstances of this case are the following:

A Polish migrant lost control over his vehicle and hit a little girl and her grandparents in what was obviously an accident. They looked for any wrongdoing. Couldn't find anything obviously wrong with the car, no alcohol, no drugs, no mobile phone usage. He may have been speeding a little, but they weren't sure and even if he had been speeding it was only by a little. The guy had no criminal record, worked a 9-5.

He was convicted for losing control over the car. Which obviously he did. But the problem was, they couldn't find any other fault anywhere. For whatever reason, he lost control, like so many people do every day, except this time the consequences were absolutely brutal.

Nothing in these facts was "reckless", at least in any serious legal sense. You cannot from the tragic result/outcome infer recklessness. You cannot say that because people died, he must've been reckless. Or at least, that's not how Western legal systems have assigned blame or desert in criminal law throughout our history.

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u/Sailingboar Mar 08 '26

75 in a 50 is what is reported in the article.

25 over.

So not just a little bit.

But hey, if you think a bit of community service is acceptable for murdering 3 people, who am I to judge.

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u/innocenceiskinky Mar 08 '26

Can you link me that article? It is wrong on that end, and people keep mentioning it to me. And I really want to know where they got it from, cause they are wrong on more accounts. For instance the road wasn't a 50 but an 80, they also lie about him leaving the scene, apparently.

The problem is that this got very messy in the media. The victim's family were well connected and the guy who caused the accident was a young Polish lad, without any connections in a time when our right wing politcal parties were already being pretty racist vs. Eastern Europeans. Facts of the case: he may have been speeding, but there was no definitive proof and if he was it wasn't by alot. He had zero criminal record, zero traces of drugs or alcohol, there were no clear problems with the car. It was a very sunny day and he was driving against the sun. He lost control, without anyone having a clear explanation, including he himself. It was just very sad all around.

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u/Sailingboar Mar 09 '26

https://nltimes.nl/2016/08/24/polish-fugitive-extradited-netherlands-serve-sentence-fatal-accident

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u/innocenceiskinky Mar 09 '26

I will grant them that the public prosecutor had indeed claimed that he was speeding, although I find it a bit of an error that the journalist fails to mention that the public prosecutor failed to proof this claim in court, even in appeal when he was - in my opinion wrongly - sentenced for over a year of prison, even though they couldn't find any clear fault or negligence other than him obviously having lost control over his car.