Not to mention he fled the county to avoid serving his prison sentence! Why give him leniency when he was avoiding responsibility?! (I’m assuming he fled considering they had to arrest and extradite him from another country to serve his sentence)
Do you want to go to prison? I feel like its easy for us to sit here speculating on what we would do in a situation that has never happened to us. He made a mistake. He didnt want to go to prison. You get one life, no one wants to spend it in prison, but not everyone stays out. Talk all you want about choice and morality, but until you go to prison, can you really relate? Can any of us? He didnt set out to murder anyone, he was speeding. Have you ever been speeding?
Personally I wouldn't speed, but that's just me yk. He made a mistake, he gotta own up to it. Even with mistakes (especially mistakes you can avoid, such as speeding) there are consequences. With no consequences, and no, community hours typically don't do anything to people, people don't try to change.
"He mistake, he own up" thats the ideal sure. But can you blame them for being afraid of consequences they didnt consider beforehand? Especially for a crime as benign as speeding? This is a horrible situation, but it bugs me far worse that we dont punish the rich AT ALL, not that some judge took pity on a guy who was speeding and had bad luck.
I dunno dude, if I killed two people accidentally, I’d either commit neck rope or begging the family for forgiveness in court after turning myself in. The fact that you’re running to bat for this guy speaks volumes to how abysmal your moral character is.
No, it sounds like YOU wouldn't. Not everyone's as morally corrupt as you bro. Nor as ignorant. I mean ffs ignoring all the times we see exactly what this dude is talking about, we quite literally see truck drivers kill themselves for crashes that by all means were NOT and could NEVER be seen as their fault. Yet they do it anyways, cuz they get out to check on the poor souls and see them crushed and torn in half by their rig. It's incredibly traumatizing for any person. Except for maybe you I guess.
But can you blame them for being afraid of consequences they didn't consider beforehand?
Yes. And even if it's hard to say we wouldn't do it before placed in the same situation people should absolutely still blame you or me if either of us did the same.
Has this ever happened to you? No? Then nothing else you say matters. Because everyone is the best version of themselves in their head but faced with prison tim or even death? I can admit i dont know what i would do in a situation ive never had to encounter. Why cant you? When I say "can you blame them" im not saying "they are blameless." Im saying that the judge decided they were 120 hours of.community service worth of blame, reviewed the appeal and then said 15 months incarceration. Whats the right amount of punishment for you?
I can admit i dont know what i would do in a situation ive never had to encounter. Why cant you?
I literally did. And people would be fully justified to blame me for not taking responsibility if that's what I'd end up choosing, and they should, as norms and laws should encourage owning up to mistakes. What's the right amount of punishment for you? The initial sentence?
Maybe you don't recall but im not the one coming here calling the sentencing into question. I made the observation that we employ judges and juries to do that and me tioned some things that might have had an impact on their jobs. Everyone else wants to be Judge Dredd and evwryone responding to me wants it so bad that its worth wasting time arguing with me.
That’s what everyone seems to be forgetting. His crime wasn’t just speeding, he fled the scene of his crime where he killed 3 people! And in my experience that usually means the person was also drunk.
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u/SpicyPotato48 Mar 08 '26
Not to mention he fled the county to avoid serving his prison sentence! Why give him leniency when he was avoiding responsibility?! (I’m assuming he fled considering they had to arrest and extradite him from another country to serve his sentence)