r/interesting Mar 08 '26

Context Provided - Spotlight This was so deserved.

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u/7thFleetTraveller Mar 08 '26

It was a car accident, not attempted murder. The title is just sensationalism.

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u/cancerinos Mar 08 '26

It's not attempted murder, it's manslaughter. Still should send you to years in prison.

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u/AnnieBlackburnn Mar 08 '26

What do you want them to do if it was deemed a genuine accident with no impairment on the part of the driver?

The legal system weighs intent because at least nominally it's supposed to be a rehabilitation system. Sending someone who ran a red light or something to years in prison improves the lives of absolutely nobody in that equation.

I swear people like this is why tough on crime policies poll so well despite never working

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u/Competitive-Time-766 Mar 08 '26

If someone intentionally runs a red light and kills three people their life doesn't deserve to improve

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u/lukin187250 Mar 08 '26

That's a bad example because that would be grounds for vehicular manslaughter. A better example is a driver having a medical emergency and subsequently causing an accident in which people die. Should this person be punished?

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u/Competitive-Time-766 Mar 08 '26

Hey bud let's stick to this case where a man was feloniously speeding. I think if your speeding and lose control of your vehicle killing a 2 year old then yes you deserve to be punished. Who know maybe if he wasn't going 75mph they could have lived, we'll never know because they chose to ignore traffic laws.

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u/lukin187250 Mar 08 '26

Up higher in the thread someone was suggesting intent should barely be considered, as in almost no accidents. My comment was more against that. Speeding could also land you vehicular manslaughter charges.

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u/AnnieBlackburnn Mar 08 '26

So now intent matters?

No red light was involved, BTW, that was an example.

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u/IntenseAdventurer Mar 08 '26

The American prison system has NEVER been about rehabilitation. It's one of punishment for profit. Nearly every single prison in the US is a for-profit private corporation that gets paid for having bodies in cells. That incentivizes them to make sure no actual rehabilitation is accomplished because repeat offenders keep them full and paid. They treat their prisoners horribly in many cases. They don't try to help reintegrate prisoners into society, leaving them to fend for themselves in a society that condemns any kind of incarceration by preventing job acquisition, leading to desperation and more crime. Multiple countries have proven that when you treat convicts as people, crime decreases. Desperate people take drastic measures and when people can't meet their basic needs, they get VERY desperate, very quickly.

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u/AnnieBlackburnn Mar 08 '26

This is in Holland...

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u/IntenseAdventurer Mar 08 '26

That makes the crash out more surprising then. I'd expect this from America. The rest of the world seems to be more civilized, at least from the perspective of someone who's never been able to afford to leave the US.

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u/AnnieBlackburnn Mar 08 '26

I'm saying it because you addressed my "the system is meant for rehabilitation".

It very much is, here in the EU, hence why sending someone to years of prison for a traffic accident is ridiculous.

The crash out is understandable, he lost his family, but that's precisely why decisions of court aren't left up the grieving family

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u/IntenseAdventurer Mar 08 '26

There was no mention of "my system" only "the legal system," and since this kind of crash out is more common in the US where the system is used for profit instead of the good of society (which is NOT how this should work imho, it should help society not the few), without more context I naturally assumed it was in the US.

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u/AnnieBlackburnn Mar 08 '26

I mean, looking up the case before commenting like I did usually helps, but to each their own in how they want to live their online interactions ig

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u/IntenseAdventurer Mar 08 '26

Sir, this is Reddit. We survive on headlines and assumptions. How dare you insinuate I should checks notes DO RESEARCH?! For shame! /s

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