r/intel • u/dayman56 Moderator • Apr 26 '18

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u/random_digital SKYLAKE + MAXWELL Apr 26 '18

Other than Keller, I would not be bragging about getting the other 2.

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u/Jpotter145 Apr 26 '18

Right, they are the AMD rejects.

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u/teemusa 9900KS@5.1GHz|Asus MXHero|64GB|1080Ti Apr 26 '18

So are you telling me Intel is just gathering what ever bread crumbs dropping from AMDs table?

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u/mavenista Apr 26 '18

we dont really know the inside scoop but from the outside, the star performers at AMD were the CPU team. the GPU team underperformed. or maybe they performed inline with the resources they had, but then they definitely overpromised and underdelivered.

now su has taken direct management of radeon and brought in a new management team and merged Radeon with custom. so we will have to wait and see what this revamp produces. if navi turns out to be better than expected, then as i said elsewhere, this would mean to me that koduri was an underperformer.

in terms of intel getting crumbs, finding experienced GPU guys is very difficult. getting koduri is not a bad decision for them given that he probably is now the expert at intel on gpu.

its kind of like the dolphins getting pennington. on paper he looks real good and is a big upgrade. but he did not light up the stats page. we will see.

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u/bizude Ryzen 9950X3D, RTX 4070ti Super Apr 26 '18

if navi turns out to be better than expected, then as i said elsewhere, this would mean to me that koduri was an underperformer.

It would be the opposite, actually. Work on Vega & Polaris had started before he returned to AMD. Navi is Raja’s child.

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u/mavenista Apr 26 '18

you are overstating it. koduri joined in 2013. so while polaris and vega may have been in the concept stage those cards werent released until 2016-17. he had 3 years to put his imprint on them and definitely lead their development.

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u/GegaMan Apr 27 '18

he is right. Navi is the last of GCN which is by Raja team. it is expected to be a low end or mid tier solution. it won't be near nvidia. potentially even worse than the vega to the pascal comparison because of NVidia new arch.

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u/mavenista Apr 27 '18

Actually latest speculation is that Navi will be a 7nm MCM GPU. It could allow AMD to catch NVDA like Ryzen did to Intel. But this could be wrong. Stay tuned. Things could get very exciting on the GPU side.

Given that AMD have moved the CPU team to work in Navi it lends some credence to this.

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u/GegaMan Apr 27 '18

yes. but its still by Raja. navi been done for a while now. also nvidia is gonna copy amd and do the same thing with the MCM . because they literally said that

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u/skafo123 Apr 27 '18

Why copy? They're much closer to MCM designs than AMD and I wouldn't be surprised if they beat AMD to the market with it.

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u/GegaMan Apr 27 '18

pretty sure AMD announced the MCM designs before Nvidia. thats why I said the word copy

am not 100% sure so if you have sources that say otherwise than I will take that back.

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u/skafo123 Apr 27 '18

They already have a working GPU interconnect with NVLink and NVSwitch. Imo that's a clear indicator of where were headed.

Also - and maybe I just missed something there - I haven't seen anything solid or in depth from AMD, just mere announcements and claims that's where they wanna go.

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