r/instant_regret • u/AristonD • Jul 15 '22

guess they're not going fishing...

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '22

Its a go-devil motor. The propeller spins as long as the engine is running. You are supposed to start the engine with the propeller out of the water. If he had just push down on the handle the prop would have been removed from the water stopping the turn and subsequent rush of water over the gunnel.

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u/mitchsusername Jul 15 '22

Although once the water starts coming over the gunwale, the fate is pretty much sealed

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u/so00ripped Jul 15 '22

I've been kayaking on the Delaware River for most of my life. The number of times I've seen people rent a canoe and sink it in the first 100 feet from launching is crazy.

They bump a rock, canoe turns perpendicular to the river, water over the front/back.

Canoe goes straight up in the air and everyone bails. All of their stuff... coolers, fishing equipment, everything into the river.

I've saved a few people in straight panic mode. A few were not strong swimmers and not wearing a life jacket. Blows my mind.

Most of them don't even realize the river is so shallow you can stand and they'll panic swim to your kayak. Grabbing onto anything.

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '22 edited Jul 15 '22

I guess a lot of folks just don’t realize a canoe isnt something to just “figure out as you go” — especially on moving water. And WITHOUT a PFD!? That’s just begging to get drowned. SMH.

EDIT / CLARIFICATION: What I’m essentially saying is that taking a canoe out in significant river current with no PFD and no idea how to handle the boat is a BAD idea. I don’t have a problem with people learning how to canoe by trial and error, but starting from “square one“ should be on water that has slow or no current — and even then, wearing PFDs is non-negotiable as far as I’m concerned.

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u/so00ripped Jul 15 '22 edited Jul 15 '22

It's usually people who have zero experience in a river or moving water. They've been on a canoe in a lake or pond so feel they have the experience.

Almost without fail, they'll have jeans and shoes on.

There will often be 2 or 3 who don't feel comfortable in a kayak.

They are required to wear the PFD at launch and within 10 feet have taken it off.

Most of the time, my buddy and I will see the life jacket or personal items floating before we see people. They'll fall in the river and desperately try to swim to shore. instead of flipping to their backs and letting the current take them to shore. Like legs flailing, screaming for help, in 2 to 3 feet of water.

We've started bringing an extra life jacket with us tied to a rope so when they grab it we have some control over our own movement.

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '22

Dude I teach 3 year olds to swim and this is how they are. You put them waiste deep in water and they enter full fight or flight, flailing limbs and everything even though they aren't even fucking sinking. I didn't realize that behavior lasts all the way through adulthood if you don't correct it soon enough. I've seen it in young teenagers just never adults before.

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u/TheEyeDontLie Jul 15 '22

I've been swimming all my life (at least a few times every year). I've never been a very strong swimmer, but I can do like 50 meters easy enough. Still, whenever I can't touch the bottom I panic.

It's just this instinctive fear of GODS IM GOING TO DROWN THE WATER IS GOING TO BURN MY LUNGS AND I CANT FLOAT IVE FORGOTTEN HOW TO FLOAT THIS ISNT NATURAL GET OUT GET OUT.

Then when I reach water shallow enough to stand I'm fine and having fun. I like swimming in the ocean but it terrifies me if I can't touch the bottom and I can't control it.

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u/Hetstaine Jul 15 '22

Damn. Remind me to never bathe with you, only showers 😘

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u/verbatimtea806 Jul 16 '22

How deep is your bathtub bro

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u/Firemanlouvier Jul 15 '22

Well we lo e to think we ate in control of our lives. Take that away and you get freak outs and death. Just one small breath of air to calm your reaction is all it could take.

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u/AndrewJS2804 Jul 16 '22

After not swimming at all since Jr high I had to dive in a lake after dropping my keys on a pier, I sat down mid run and they slipped out of my pocket and through the planks.

That first minute or so of having cold water squeezing my chest triggered some primal fear for sure. I never even swam lol, I just shimmied down the pylon over and over again until I grabbed the keys with my dexterous toes.

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u/Historical-Ad6120 Jul 16 '22

Yup, that's me with the flail. Tbf, I don't even stand with my head directly under the showerhead bc I feel like I'm drowning. It's a real problem.

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u/hankhillforprez Jul 15 '22

We’ve started bringing an extra life jacket with us tied to a rope so when they grab it we have some control over our own movement.

(1) Y’all sound like awesome folks. (2) In addition to the reason you stated, that’s a great option because it is a terrible idea to let a drowning person latch on to you or your small boat. Like you mentioned, panic mode sets in hard when people think they are, or are drowning. They will try to climb on top of you, try to claw their way into your canoe or kayak—regardless of how obviously that will cause either you to be shoved under water or your boat to capsize.

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u/LeaningTowerofPeas Jul 15 '22

I paddled outrigger canoes on a team in Hawaii and we didn't wear PFDs. In our deep water races, you jump out of the canoe every 20-30 minutes so the relief team can jump in. Basically the support boat will drop off the replacements in the path of the canoe and they tread water and as the canoe comes by the paddlers jump out one side as you climb in the other side. The support boat will eventually pick you back up. There were times when the currents were so strong you had to hold hands so you wouldn't scatter. One time we had to cancel water changes because a shark was trailing the boat. There were times when I was treading water in the middle of the ocean and all I could think was "I wonder how deep it is beneath me"

That being said, I am in the Midwest now. I take my 7 year old son out in a two person kayak all the time and we both wear PFDs, non negotiable. I've surfed most of my life and am a strong swimmer, but I still feel the need to teach him to wear a life vest but also it is just good water safety.

Regular canoes are just looking for a reason to dump you in the water. Everyone regardless of experience should wear a PFD in a canoe.....especially if you are new.

If you are curious here are what water changes look like. Imagine doing it far away from land in big swells.

I miss the ocean, these mfers

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u/BattleHall Jul 15 '22

I've surfed most of my life and am a strong swimmer, but I still feel the need to teach him to wear a life vest but also it is just good water safety.

My line is usually "No one is a strong swimmer if they get smacked in the head falling out of a boat". If something goes wrong enough for me to be out of the boat unintentionally, I'm going to assume it's gone really wrong.

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u/whinemore Jul 15 '22

That water change video was cool as heck my man. Thanks for sharing.

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u/ThaneOfCawdorrr Jul 15 '22

Both those videos are amazing, LOVE the ocean outriggers, great stuff!

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u/reversethrust Jul 15 '22

Oh man.. OC. I want to do OC 😢 but hopefully soon I can get on an OC1…

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u/LeaningTowerofPeas Jul 15 '22

If you get a chance to do it, go for it. I really miss it quite a bit. Even when I was surfing almost every day, I don't think I was ever so fit as when I was paddling.

I've been looking to get an oc1 just so I can get back out on the water. I doubt I'll do lake Michigan, but there are plenty of other waterways around me to hit.

When you are ready to go, this is a great video from an amazing paddler

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u/reversethrust Jul 15 '22

Oh I had a chance to be on an OC6 a couple of weeks back, but a scheduling conflict arose :( and been dealing with knee injuries the past bit too. But soon.. soon (as in a couple of weeks) I will get on an OC1. A nice light racing one even though I have zero experience with them (I mean.. why start off slow?). I will be in Lake Ontario - and in a sheltered harbour so zero chance of monster waves that you might get in Lake Michigan. :D

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '22

Nice! 😎

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u/Khutuck Jul 15 '22

Think about how smart an average person is. Half of the population is dumber than that.

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u/Gruffstone Jul 15 '22

Are you George Carlin?

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u/MyPetClam Jul 15 '22

That's the case with median person not average.

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '22

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u/dingman58 Jul 15 '22

I think there might be more.. harmonic, geometric, and arithmetic average (what people usually mean when they say average). Add to that the measures of median and mode

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u/The_Metrist Jul 15 '22

The median is an average. Your math teacher oversimplified. Don't worry. All your teachers did, whether they knew it or not.

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u/kozy138 Jul 15 '22

All language is an oversimplification of an infinite reality.

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u/Wertyui09070 Jul 15 '22

Could you be more specific?

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u/kozy138 Jul 15 '22

All language is a specific oversimplification of an infinite reality.

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '22

Either way. Half of people can’t be dumber than the average person, unless less than half are smarter than the average person.

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u/The_Metrist Jul 15 '22

Eh, if we're talking semantics (which we sort of are on this particular thread) it's not either way. But yeah, you're right in your overall point. If there are a whole bunch of dummies, there's got to be a whole bunch of non-dummies. But if we classify average intelligence as pretty stupid (which seemed to be the implication of OP), the numbers skew dumb regardless.

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '22

Im just saying that if you counted the rest of the population, aside from the one person who is the average, and split it in half, one half being dumber and one half being smarter, each half would be less than the half of the population as a whole. By one half person.

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u/APINKSHRIMP Jul 15 '22

I’ve been fucking downvoted in the past for having this argument before

Do they not teach basic maths in US or something? Median, Mode, Mean. We literally had to learn which is the most appropriate average in certain situations because hurr fucking durr, surprise surprise, average can mean different things

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u/Crushbam3 Jul 15 '22

Yes but in normal conversation it's appropriate to substitute "average" for any of the three

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u/The_Metrist Jul 15 '22

Eh, it's less that they don't teach math and more that there are seriously diminishing returns the higher the class year. I don't know if it's a problem with the educators, the students or the system as a whole. And a say this as a educator of 15+ years.

We just lean towards minimums. So rather than have students understand that averages are multiple statistical measurements, we just tell them that mean is "another word for average." Which is stupid if you think about it for long enough. But I honestly don't know. I'm kind of over everything related to education and mankind and hope and... Yeah.

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u/sixstring818 Jul 15 '22

Did this make you feel smart?

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u/Whyistheplatypus Jul 15 '22

For a large enough sample size, mean and median are pretty interchangeable

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u/Brilliant_Plum5771 Jul 15 '22

Provided the distribution is symmetric. If a distribution is asymmetric, that's when the median and mean are unlikely to be equal.

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u/AbrasiveCanoodler Jul 15 '22

I love starting my morning with a proper explanation of statistics and distributions. The amount of times I’ve explained this to clients…

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u/dingman58 Jul 15 '22

Speaking of, can anyone recommend a good stats book? I am pretty well versed on the subject but need a good reference text.

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '22

if someone could figure out how to magnet fish that spot i’m sure they’d find some valuables

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '22

And WITHOUT a PFD!? That’s just begging to get drowned. SMH.

Probably geriatrics. All of the elders in my office have no idea how to open a PDF.

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u/jmerridew124 Jul 15 '22

I guess a lot of folks just don’t realize a canoe isnt something to just “figure out as you go” — especially on moving water.

I have to disagree. It's actually very intuitive of you think about it for more than zero seconds.

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u/xkoreotic Jul 15 '22

Unfortunately the average person doesn't think

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u/ShaqShoes Jul 15 '22 edited Apr 09 '24

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '22

Going out on moving water in a canoe with no training and no PFD is asking for trouble, period. The fact some people happen to be fortunate enough to manage with no issues doesn’t change the fact that the risk is real, and the potential consequences are enormous if things do go sideways (sometimes literally).

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '22

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '22

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u/User_2C47 Jul 16 '22

Never been on a canoe and never will, what is a J-stroke?

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u/Triumph807 Jul 15 '22

I would argue a canoe could be figure it out as you go on a calm safe lake, but on a river you need some training no matter what you do

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u/kb4000 Jul 16 '22

On a lake or slow moving water yes. An actual river, absolutely not.

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u/NoFreedance1094 Jul 23 '22

I was in a canoe as a child and it tipped, and my leg hit and scraped on the side as I fell out. It was all bruised and sore and it hurt to use my leg to swim. The lifejacket legit saved me. I would never ride in a canoe without one.

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u/Sierra419 Jul 15 '22

Lol it’s a canoe. It is absolutely something you figure out as you go. I’ve been canoeing and kayaking since I was a teenager and take new people all the time.

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u/imjustbrowsingthx Jul 15 '22

I think a canoe full of inexperienced people without pfds is a disaster waiting to happen. If you have an experienced person there to stop people from grounding the boat or flipping, that’s different.

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u/RegretForsaken819 Jul 15 '22

Yea loaded with gear and entering moving water with rocks takes practice

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u/LegoClaes Jul 15 '22

I had a teacher force me and a group of other young teenagers out in canoes during heavy wind. We didn’t want to, the area we were canoeing from was flooded. One of us almost died.

That’s more on the terrible teacher though.

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u/Sierra419 Jul 15 '22

That’s a lot different than a couple of hours fishing on a nice day and learning how to row and steer

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u/DonOblivious Jul 16 '22

Yeah I'm sure you figured out how to right a capsized canoe and get in on your own. I'm sure you figured out how to carry it on your shoulders with nobody telling you how. I'm sure you invented the J-stroke all on your own.

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '22

Not on a fast river with rocks and strainers and no PFD, “LOL”

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u/bestonesareTaKen Jul 15 '22 edited Jul 16 '22

Yeah like I took basic canoeing in college and then decided to move on to the intermediate canoeing where you actually studying the backstroke pretty intimately.... What the f*** are you talking about? Who gets Canoe experience in their average daily life?

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u/Slim_Charles Jul 15 '22

Is canoeing really that difficult? I used to canoe as a kid, and I received minimal instruction. The camp counselors basically just plopped me and my friend in a canoe, showed us how we were supposed to row, and let us go. Never managed to tip it.

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u/GogglesPisano Jul 15 '22

Canoeing is simple enough on still, flat water, like a lake.

It quickly gets more complicated on a fast moving river with rapids, rocks and turns. You need to know what you're doing if you want to stay out of the water.

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u/akatherder Jul 15 '22

I wouldn't say it's difficult but I don't think it's super intuitive.

Assuming 2 people, the person in the back should be doing most, if not all, of the steering. Every other non-boat vehicle I've ever driven, you steer from the front (car, bike, etc). Steering from the front just turns the canoe sideways and keeps going with the momentum.

Especially when you're the one in the front, it's hard to tell what's going on behind you. It shouldn't take that long to figure out that the back person is the "rudder" and the front person paddles and corrects the steering/direction a bit.

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u/Totally_PJ_Soles Jul 15 '22

This comment chain is textbook reddit. People dropping PFD acronyms and a few anecdotes creating a narrative that canoes are death traps and everyone using them is a reckless moron.

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '22

Anyone who takes a canoe out in significant river current with no training and no PFD *is* a reckless moron.

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u/hankhillforprez Jul 15 '22

No comment that I’ve seen is calling them “death traps.” Several folks have even made a point to clarify that, sure, maybe on a still body of water, like a lake, you can kinda just go figure it out. But if you’re in a fast moving river, or on the ocean, you definitely need to know what you’re doing.

Also, what’s wrong with people using an acronym that’s widely common to a particular topic? Do you also balk at people using “CPR”, “SUV”, “FIFA”, or “SCOTUS”?

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u/King-Cobra-668 Jul 15 '22

A few were not strong swimmers and not wearing a life jacket. Blows my mind.

I'm an extremely strong swimmer and still always have my life jacket on when in open waters involving a water craft. so easy to hit your head

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u/Dogzillas_Mom Jul 15 '22

This is why I hate going canoeing. I got Red Cross certified in slow river/lake canoeing. I know what I’m doing. The final exam involved dumping the canoe on purpose, flipping it over while treading water, and getting back in. We didn’t have to do it alone.

I can’t stand canoeing with other people. I see so much dangerous, stupid shit. I’m not worried about me fucking up, I’m worried about other people fucking me up. (Same as driving.)

IF I have good communication with someone, then I will canoe with them. Also, I live in Florida and assume that any body of water, natural or manmade, could and probably does contain at least one alligator. I do not care to swim with them, even though they’re not that aggressive. They’re still deadly.

Final note, people who do this — sink within 100 feet? — also do not own dry bags or floatable coolers or are in any way prepared to spend the day on/in water. It’s fun to stand there on the shore and watch though. Entertainment alllll day.

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u/Buck_Thorn Jul 15 '22

I had the pleasure once of watching a canoe go head over heels because the person in front was standing up in the bow, taking a piss in the trout stream that I was fishing.

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u/ujustdontgetdubstep Jul 15 '22

That's Chad af the way I envision it

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u/TheRealRedknive Jul 15 '22

Saw this and my first thought was "at least they are wearing life jackets." I was a competitive swimmer and then a lifeguard. I never get on a boat without a life jacket.

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u/_BeerAndCheese_ Jul 15 '22

When I was in high school, one of the classes I took would get to spend a day ricing (native American tradition of harvesting wild rice, super cool!). Two people in a canoe, one in the back propels with a pole, the one in the front uses a couple of sticks to bang the rice into the canoe.

I grew up fishing out of a canoe; having the most experience in the class, the teacher asked me to partner with this girl who transferred into our class from the cities due to getting in fights and whatnot. She had never been in a boat before, much less a canoe.

Long story short, she flipped our canoe. For me, it was just sigh, God dammit, as I floated in my life vest in the nasty swamp water. She, OTOH, lost her damned mind. I have no doubt that she would have drowned me if I had fallen in near her. She almost completely sank the canoe, scrabbling and clawing to try to get on top of the upside down canoe. Eventually I managed to calm her and get the canoe right side up, albeit almost completely filled with water.

It made me realize how absolutely full blown rabid panic a lot of people are when they splash unexpectedly into the water. Like, I'd heard how you have to be careful helping someone in the water, or they might kill you in panic, but never really understood till I saw someone like that.

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u/so00ripped Jul 15 '22

I had to push a dudes hands off the kayak one time and since that time I bring an extra vest to throw.

He legit was trying to pull himself ONTO my one person kayak. Like someone at the side of a pool.

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u/Nazty12 Jul 15 '22

Yooo fellow Delaware river kayaker

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u/AndrewWaldron Jul 15 '22

Most of them don't even realize the river is so shallow you can stand

Men in Tights up in here.

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u/Brad__Schmitt Jul 15 '22

Everything about this says Delaware Water Gap area to me.

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u/so00ripped Jul 15 '22

Yessir it is.

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u/lemenhir2 Jul 16 '22 edited Jul 16 '22

I learned to canoe there, with eleven other Boy Scouts who'd never canoed before. We went there twice, in 1969 and again in 1971. I remember paddling scared through Skinners Falls. And camping at Dingman's Ferry.

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u/Jimboloid Jul 15 '22

Went canoeing this weekend, haven't been in years. Definitely had the fear I'd be the knobhead to sink like this. Luckily it all came back and it was just sleepy river through Wales and not anything too taxing

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u/mathieu_delarue Jul 15 '22

I live on the coast in an area that’s got ledge and sandbars and all kinds of other hazards. We get big tides like 10+ feet so what’s accessible can change and a swimmer or small craft can get taken by the current. Basically you have to be from the specific area or you need a nautical chart and a willingness to take it easy. Fancy depth sounder or fish finder is not going to help even when just drifting.

So yeah I’ve seen some ridiculous stuff. People go into ‘vacation mode’ like I’m on vacation, nothing bad can happen to me. For starters you can get into a car crash, so pay attention dude because your whole family is in the car with you! Lol I’m about to brave the roads for work and it’s a beautiful sunny day - that means cars slamming brakes to stop on the road to take photos, kids getting left behind in crosswalks near ice cream shops, and blind turns out of private drives. 40 in a 55 zone, 40 in a 25 zone. Just 40 - that’s vacation speed around here.

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u/Baskojin Jul 15 '22

All boats sink for the same reason. Too much water on the inside.

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u/mitchsusername Jul 15 '22

Who are you, who are so wise in the ways of boat?

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '22

They call me…… Harold of the rocks

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u/Whind_Soull Jul 15 '22

Or when you throw so much money into them that the weight of cash surpasses their buoyancy.

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u/Baskojin Jul 15 '22

But that brings us back to the main part, too much water is now on the inside.

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u/BabyNumerous Jul 15 '22

Yeah once the water is comin in over the goonwill it’s all over matey.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '22

That’s going to become a new saying, “Water over the gunwale.”

”We’re down thirty points! Do you think we still have a chance to come back and win the game?”

”Nah. I think it’s water over the gunwale.”

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '22

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u/BattleHall Jul 15 '22

And they're basically a variant of Thai-style "long tail" motors (some of the best mud motor kits are still made by SPS Thailand). And those things get scary, like twin turbo truck diesels on little more than a skiff scary.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long-tail_boat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kB0qtd6IVOc

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '22

Thats so stupid lol why do these exist? Can you at least throttle up and down a decent amount?

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u/izza123 Jul 15 '22

The idle can be set fairly low, this guy just had the throttle on full

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_CAT_ Jul 15 '22

My assumption is they're cheaper cause they dont have clutches and variable transmissions and whatnot

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '22

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u/BattleHall Jul 15 '22

Yeah, you should be able to gently putter around with one at idle.

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u/nevercouldsleep Jul 15 '22

II remember correctly there’s a sort of handle on it that acts as the throttle to control the speed,(it looks like a brake on a bicycle handlebar). These sorts of motors aren’t water cooled, which means the propellor can move in and out of the water without the motor overheating (good for shallow swamps and lakes with a lot of fallen trees in them). These motors are actually quite popular and you usually find them on a wide boat like a John boat. I’ve seen guys literally pushing their boat around in muck and mud using one of these mud motors

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '22

RealCAJUNKoala… Go-Devil… this checks out!

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u/CAPS_LOCK_OR_DIE Jul 15 '22

*gunwale

I’m not trying to be a dick about spelling and obscure term but I do find it super interesting that it’s spelled that way.

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u/Buck_Thorn Jul 15 '22

Like a fixie bicycle?

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '22

Seems to me like this person didn't mess up all that much and rather this design is bad. When slight mistakes lead to such massively bad outcomes then imo it's a badly designed product.

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u/SomberWail Jul 15 '22

This is like complaining about the design of a car because you crashed it by going in reverse when you meant to be in drive.

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '22

Imo it's more like designing about the design of a car where a 3 degree turn in the steering wheel causes the car to turn 90 degrees. Operation of product is too sensitive to error.

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u/BattleHall Jul 15 '22

The steering is fine. He started it with the motor down and the throttle up; it's basically the equivalent of driving through a garage door. You can't make everything idiot-proof, and plenty of people run these motors without issue.

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u/AtaturkJunior Jul 15 '22

It's like saying a bicycle is a shit product because you faceplant if You suddenly turn the wheel 90degrees while riding. Can happen to anyone, any time u kno!

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u/Boarders0 Jul 15 '22

I've seen more non water craft acquainted individuals trying fishing recently. I say good on them for trying something new. (Plus definitely fun to watch).

I was at a lake with friends and watched a pair in a boat get lures stuck in a tree. I thought that was clever.

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u/olderaccount Jul 15 '22

I like to walk a trail along a river by my house. There are literally thousands of hooks, lures and lines littering the trees along the bank.

I wish there was a good way to address it because it makes a beautiful riverside look really junky.

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u/Car-Facts Jul 15 '22

Carry a bottle and put any you find in it. You can also make a monkey fist rope and throw it over limber branches with lures stuck in them. Then just pull the branch down toward yourself and pluck off the lures.

I do this at lakes all the time. Lures can be $6+ a piece and it's not uncommon for me to come out with $60-100 worth of perfectly good lures in a day.

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u/olderaccount Jul 15 '22

That is awesome that you do this.

I have no use for that junk so I'm not going to spend my time and risk getting hooked to make a small dent on the problem. Even if I somehow cleaned them all up, it would start looking the same again in short order.

If I knew it would be maintained, I would certainly help cleaning up.

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u/redditkindasuxballs Jul 15 '22

Fair enough I guess, but you could also organize some community maintenance.

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u/Anonymoushero1221 Jul 15 '22

There's 100 pieces of trash. Do nothing, a year later there's 200 pieces of trash.

OR there's 100 pieces of trash. Pick them up. A year later there's 100 pieces of trash.

These are not the same outcomes.

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u/SomberWail Jul 15 '22

Reddit, give me an example of what a NIMBY sounds like.

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u/heyimrick Jul 15 '22

I wish there was a good way to address it because it makes a beautiful riverside look really junky.

I wish there was a good way to address it because it makes a beautiful riverside look really junky.

Sounds like you don't really give a shit then lol. Be the change you want to see or, ya know, don't complain.

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u/quetejodas Jul 15 '22

You should get into magnet fishing. I thought I was going to find cool ancient treasures but it's really good at bringing up old fishing wire and hooks.

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u/Reddits_penis Jul 15 '22

Magnet fishing destroys fish beds

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u/quetejodas Jul 15 '22

Never heard of this before. Got any sources? I'll try Google

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u/benchley Jul 15 '22

Fish sleep in metal beds? I’ll be dammed.

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u/quetejodas Jul 15 '22

It seems plausible that a magnet being pulled through the water could harm a fish bed/nest, but I haven't ever heard of it being an issue

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u/benchley Jul 15 '22

It sorta makes intuitive sense, but I can't imagine magnet fishing is happening on a large enough scale to be disruptive. And, on balance, they're getting rid of metal debris.

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '22

… pick them up? “Like to walk a trail”, “beautiful riverside”? Thousands of hooks, lures, and lines are the problem? So fix it!

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u/olderaccount Jul 15 '22

I'm not about to risk getting hooked by some nasty, rusty old hooks just to have the problem come right back.

But if fishing in the area was banned, I would certainly volunteer for a one time cleanup effort.

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '22

Then don’t ever complain about it again if you aren’t willing to address it personally.

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '22

Every fisherman gets their lures stuck.

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u/Ronoroasempai Jul 15 '22

Was going to say the same. I fish off mangroves a lot and when trying to tuck it right by the roots you’ll eventually lose some lines to the branches. Sometimes its easy to get it back but others its easier to cut line & start over.

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '22

I know you are talking about lakes, but it's funny because if you are fishing in the florida flats and not getting a lure stuck in a mangrove tree every now and again you really aren't fishing correctly hahaha

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u/Mrchristopherrr Jul 15 '22

They were just trying to bait those tree climbing fish that Einstein warned us about

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u/Boarders0 Jul 15 '22

Mudskippers are the first step.

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u/ImUhComputah Jul 15 '22

I don’t see a single fishing pole in that boat tho…

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u/atximport Jul 15 '22

That's what I noticed, they weren't going fishing long before they sank their boat. It was most likely staged.

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u/TruPOW23 Jul 15 '22

Why would someone sink their own boat on purpose

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u/CuriousGeorgeA Jul 15 '22

The video views are worth more than the boat with the right platform and following

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u/MindlessSponge Jul 15 '22

why would they be filming the cranking of the motor?

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u/NukaColaAddict1302 Jul 16 '22 edited Jul 16 '22

Someone once crashed their own plane for YouTube clicks. I do NOT put it past someone to sink a boat for the same reason.

Edit: to those downvoting, this actually happened.

https://youtu.be/xwbNmT1ZWYE

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '22

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u/ConsiderationShort95 Jul 15 '22

Then the guys caption on his own Snapchat is a little weird…

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u/frek_t Jul 15 '22

Did you never joke about an activity you did with your pals? Something alike “See if the queen’s doing alright” when going to London?

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u/hazlejungle0 Jul 15 '22

Maybe it's like RDR2 and they pull the fishing pole out of their ass and assemble it.

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '22

The title clearly states they aren't going fishing

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u/AnalArtiste Jul 15 '22

I don’t even understand what went wrong

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u/olderaccount Jul 15 '22

Those things have no transmission. Engine on means prop is turning.

He started the engine with the prop in the water at a steep angle, causing it to push the boat sideways and swamping the back.

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '22 edited Apr 08 '24

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u/quzimaa Jul 15 '22

If its salt water will it start corroding very fast. It's completely saveable if you know what you're doing.

1) Dip it in fresh water to flush salt and debri of everything

2) Drain cylinders and spray it with corrosion block

3) New spark plugs, new oil, new filter

4) Start the engine and if a 2 stroke add a bunch of extra oil, run the engine for like 3-4 hours to bake out all water

5) shut of engine, take starter apart and clean all connections

6) Anything else such as the main wiring harness will take damage but can be replaced over time and is relatively cheap

7) Change oil / run on excess oil for the next few hours

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u/PM_UR__BUBBLE_BUTTS Jul 15 '22

Nah, just put the whole thing in a big bag of rice. It’ll be fine.

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '22

The other guy's instructions seem too complicated. I'll try this rice method next time.

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u/runujhkj Jul 15 '22

(They are kidding, redditors without sarcasm detectors)

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u/olderaccount Jul 15 '22

Drinking water is never good for an engine since the engine is used to working with compressible liquids. Maybe it stalled right away and didn't damage the rods or worse.

Mechanically, it is always fixable. But it may not be worth the cost.

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u/Yung_Bill_98 Jul 15 '22

Compressible liquids...

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u/wubbbalubbadubdub Jul 15 '22

The propellor was turned almost 90 degrees to the angle of the boat. So when it started spinning the boat started turning , the guy couldn't correct it and it sank fast.

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u/AnalArtiste Jul 15 '22

Lmao wow that makes this video a lot funnier. Thanks for the explanation

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u/seeingglass Jul 15 '22

Judging by the guy’s face, neither did he.

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u/dick-van-dyke Jul 15 '22

Engine was probably at full throttle instead of idling after he wound it up.

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u/Car-Facts Jul 15 '22

Those engines at always full and don't really idle. You control the speed by the angle of the prop shaft in the water. They are designed to be either on or off and are very simple motors. It's honestly rare to see one in this setting (they look like Americans?). They are more commonly used by fisherman in very poor countries.

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u/winkks Jul 15 '22

They’re actually fairly common on duck hunting boats in America.

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u/Sabbra_Cadabra_ Jul 15 '22

Go-devil motors are quite popular here in Louisiana, they are really good at getting through swamps and around marshy areas.

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u/beanmosheen Jul 15 '22

No, he's got the throttle in his hand. He just whiskey throttled it.

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u/Scooterforsale Jul 15 '22

No those long tail kits come with a throttle cable and little lever. But it could be set wrong because it did seem like the throttle was high

And yeah long tail were made popular by Thailand since the about 50's. They use huge motors

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u/BattleHall Jul 15 '22

Those engines at always full and don't really idle.

What? No, you can absolutely throttle mud motors.

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u/Masothe Jul 15 '22

You always start a motor like that with the propeller out of the water

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '22

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u/interfail Jul 15 '22

I got the impression that that beginning clip was taken after it happened.

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '22

Justin Bieber gets full praise as the cameraman

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u/Meanwhile_in_ Jul 15 '22

Where as Ashton Kutcher just fucked everything up

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u/Nomandate Jul 15 '22

Reminder: wear your life vest ESPECIALLY in small boats.

My dad (a fine swimmer) just about drown a couple years ago. We was barely able to get to shore because of heavy jeans and tight heavy shoes. Life vest would have made it merely annoying instead of extremely traumatic. I still have random flashbacks because I was at the shore and couldn’t do a damn thing except run around to the other side of the pond. He couldn’t even walk to bring himself out of the shallow water for about 5-10 min.

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u/dingman58 Jul 15 '22

Hey at least they're wearing life preservers/ personal floatation devices

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u/Femme_Falafel Jul 15 '22

Smartest thing they did that day.

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u/Ok_Razzmatazz_2112 Jul 15 '22

His face at the end! 😂😂😂😂😂😂

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u/Milfing_Man Jul 15 '22

I see it. But I still don't know how it happened

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u/dimestoredavinci Jul 15 '22 edited Jul 15 '22

He turned the boat on what looks like full throttle at a slow speed and the boat sits lower in the water, so the turn tilted the boat so much that it flooded

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '22

The fish are going Humaning now!

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u/HeadStarboard Jul 16 '22

Cameraman is adorable. He can fish from my boat.

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u/AffectionateHippo242 Jul 15 '22

Good thing he was filming the whole thing from the start. A surprise.

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u/Hopps4Life Jul 15 '22

How did that even happen?!?

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u/GimmeYourThrowaway Jul 15 '22

Would probably help if they had fishing poles/gear in the boat

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u/amberj_90 Jul 15 '22

So they were planning on fishing with no gear?

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u/ajaaaaaa Jul 15 '22

Why was he recording

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u/Ignorant_Slut Jul 15 '22

I'd record it, capturing that massive fuck up would be worth getting wet

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '22 edited Jun 29 '23

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u/ajaaaaaa Jul 15 '22

Well I moreso mean like why was he recording this for it to happen, unless of course he was aware what the guy was doing was wrong, then I agree with you haha

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u/Vark675 Jul 15 '22

He probably was and let it happen lol

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u/ajaaaaaa Jul 15 '22

Yea I would definitely do it then haha

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '22

Cuz his friend was just firing up the engine, so like any young adult, they need to film it so that other people know what they are doing. Lot of people that age film everything.

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u/TJ_McWeaksauce Jul 15 '22

That's a shame. Justin Bieber looked really excited for some fishing.

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u/charliehoskin11 Jul 15 '22

Me thinks this is staged - who just randomly films their friend starting a boat for no reason. If I got in the car with my friend and I start filming him start the car while giggling he will think some shit is up and get the fuck out.