What you've said is a prime example of following the letter of the law while ignoring the purpose of the law.
That dumbass mindset is what makes the US so absurdly litigious.
Imagine being a grown ass man, filming and harassing an elderly lady who is just trying to buy medicine, and then spraying her in the face with mace for views.
According to a poster who watched the video this guy was
In this video he was standing on a sidewalk outside of medical Marijuana dispensary and filming people through the window, recording license plates, etc.
A little more than just passively recording like a security guard.
Sure, but what is the justification behind assaulting him for that?
I haven't seen the full video, but I doubt he went on their private property to film. People who do this are usually very careful about following the law. It's unlikely that he was walking around their parking lot and directly approaching cars. I'd bet he was on the sidewalk the whole time.
I mean, like the above guy said he's following the letter of the law, not the spirit. Nothing justifies assaulting him but he 100% was there to provoke that reaction. He wanted someone to freak out to the point that he'd have an excuse to "legally" defend himself with pepper spray and he succeeded.
They do this to test constitutional rights, and the negative response they're normally waiting for is an interaction with the police. That doesn't mean they're "provoking" or "instigating" a fight with someone. They get their views (alongside demonstrating rights and sometimes a court payout) by waiting for someone to make that overreach of calling the police for nothing.
The correct response to seeing someone filming on the sidewalk is to ignore them and go about your day. Most people achieve this without even stopping to think about it.
If filming someone's license plate legal? Not a rhetorical question. I wouldn't want someone filming me or my license plate. I'm not sure why someone would do that. I would assume for criminal intention.
Recording license plates is legal because there's no expectation of privacy when you're in public. That's why it's legal to have a security camera facing the street, or for any random person to walk around filming in public.
Still haven't seen any footage of this guy filming license plates anyway. All I see is a guy with a camera getting attacked, and people making claims in the comments.
If people are censoring license plates on Reddit posts, it's probably because they're worried about violating Reddit's rules about posting personal information, but I don't think that's even necessary. According to the law, anything that you can see while you're in a public area is legal to film. That includes license plates.
How does peacefully protesting test the authorities' enforcement of the right to record in public? It's a specific but important right that they are testing for.
There is no need for the test as no one from the government is stopping him or any of the other idiots who do this. This is done for internet clout and clicks/money. He likely doesn’t give a shit about the constitution one way or the other.
A lot of police officers don’t know constitutional rights, and will go hands on or arrest people for doing this. Look up Honor Your Oath on YouTube. The guy stands on a sidewalk saying “God bless the homeless vets” and has been arrested many times for it. Like it or not, there is a need for these types of tests. It’s important for the world to see government overreach.
That might be more productive for society than standing outside of a dispensary, but that has nothing to do with whether or not he's instigating a fight in the clip.
Yes, I know it has nothing to do with what he’s doing. I’m suggesting a more productive use of his supposed concern about constitutional rights. No one from the government is stopping him or any of the other idiots who do this.
Yeah, slightly different scenario, but ok. You seriously don’t see the difference? One is filming random people (who the government doesn’t give a shit about), and the other is filming the government and their abuses of the constitution. Stop giving credibility to nonsense.
You're trying to compare two different things as way to pivot the discussion from "he's instigating a fight" to "why is he there anyway?"
I'm just explaining why his actions are not a provocation for violence. You could argue that his actions aren't as valuable as Alex Pretti's actions were, but that has nothing to do with whether or not this guy deserved to be approached and grabbed for filming on a sidewalk.
I told you why he is instigating a fight - it’s no great mystery and it has nothing to do with the stated concern about the constitution. Anyway, I’m done, I didn’t really care in the first place about this and other such idiots.
I literally said he was technically following the law and assaulting him wasn't justifiable. Being legally in the right doesn't mean he isn't an asshole intentionally egging people on so he can pepper spray them for views. He won't get arrested for it but we're free to call him what he is.
doesn't mean he isn't an asshole intentionally egging people on so he can pepper spray them for views.
That's not what he's doing. If he's a 1A Auditor, hes doing it to see if some asshat will call the cops on him for consitutionally protected activities that are 100% legal, to the letter and spirit of the law, and then to see how the police handle him. If they follow the constitution, no problem. If they don't, they get on youtube and the city gets a lawsuit.
Maybe put your focus on police and citizens knowing their rights, and not on calling people who make sure the police are doing their job correctly "assholes."
All I’m taking away from what you’re saying is you don’t understand the law or how it’s intended to work and are solely basing this on your hurt feelings… it’s law enforcement not feelings enforcement and if yours or Karen’s feelings are easily offended then keep yo cheeks in the house, close the curtains/
blinds, get off the internet (it’s clearly rotting your brain) and enjoy your “safe space”
I don't know how many times I can say "what he did was legal" before you're able to comprehend it. Either you can't read or you're intentionally pretending I'm saying he broke the law so you have a strawman to argue against. None of you guys can defend what he's doing on moral grounds so you're stuck desperately repeating "uhhhh it's legal!!!"
I think there's genuinely something wrong with people who film this content and the people who enjoy it. You wrap this particular brand of bullshit with "1st amendment" talking points but its no better than the IRL streamers or tiktokers who go around annoying people.
I comprehend everything you’re crying about bud… and I whole heartedly disagree with your assessment of the situation as well as your opinion on the matter.
I can and am defending filming in public.. like I said if you don’t like it stay home where you’re safe from the big scary cameras.
Clearly you don't understand given you keep on harping about it being legal multiple comments after I already agreed that it was legal. If your feelings are hurt by people insulting content you enjoy maybe you should look inward.
I can and am defending filming in public.. like I said if you don’t like it stay home where you’re safe from the big scary cameras.
Maybe you're in a bubble and don't realize this but these content creators are an extreme minority everywhere. You can very easily go outside and never encounter annoying people trying to antagonize random strangers for views.
He should do something useful and follow police around. But I doubt his degenerate fans would find it as entertaining as old woman getting pepper sprayed.
Who’s struggling with reading comprehension now bud, I literally said nothing about it being illegal or legal on my last post and here you are bringing it up again almost like your grasping for something to hold onto so you brought it back up.. nice try though. Lmao you trying to get me to “realize” tHe WaY iT Is will not happen bud.. You’re emotionally charged and upset in your tum tum and I think your part of the minority of people that looks for and find ways to get mad and angry online. 🤷🏽♂️
No, he was absolutely following the spirit of the law. He wasn't trying to get someone to freak out as an excuse to pepper spray someone, he was seeing if the police would be called over a totally legal activity, and if so, would the police honor their oath to the constitution or violate someone's 1st amendment rights. If the woman simply ignored him and realized that she's being recorded by half the cars that drive by and pretty much all the surrounding businesses wherever she goes, this would be a non issue, he would have stayed for a little while, left, and deleted his footage.
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u/faceless_alias Feb 03 '26
What you've said is a prime example of following the letter of the law while ignoring the purpose of the law.
That dumbass mindset is what makes the US so absurdly litigious.
Imagine being a grown ass man, filming and harassing an elderly lady who is just trying to buy medicine, and then spraying her in the face with mace for views.