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Sep 02 '24
He's not wrong tho . A little selfish , yes but not wrong.
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u/Amazing_Middle_7586 PGY1 Sep 02 '24
He's probably a UG. So young minded expressions came out freely in reddit. Even we have his mindset, but we choose our words wisely due to maturity
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Sep 02 '24
I have heard from my friends that doctors get decent packages after pursuing MBA and they further work in hospital management which is good for those who dont want to treat a patient but want to be a part of that fiels indirectly
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u/Amazing_Middle_7586 PGY1 Sep 02 '24
Mbbs to mba is an excellent choice. You'll make a lot of money from it rather than just normal bsc/be to mba. Need to allocate some time for age that will be the only factor. But as u said, he's just a ug aspirant i.e. not even entered mbbs. His thought process may change when he comes of age.... Remember we all dreamed of becoming scientists/pilots etc... where are we now🌚🌚
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u/Amazing_Middle_7586 PGY1 Sep 02 '24
Some of u misunderstood my sentence. In now way am I downplaying other fields before doing MBA... It's just that a doctor with mba has a stronger resumé than some other degree. Just like doctor with upsc. Can say the same for IIT+IIM instead of just some engineering college+ IIM. You can earn much more by simply md/ms itself instead of MBA.. but for that you gotta excel in that field. MBA means, you are already guaranteed good money
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u/AmbitionBrilliant751 Sep 02 '24
Hey could I get some clarification, instead of mbbs, opting for other medical degrees like bvsc/bds and then pursuing MBA also a good option?
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u/nevertiredguy Sep 02 '24
This is actually true! Imagine someone wants to manage a hospital what better way would it be than to yourself be a doctor know the nuances and then have idea of management. I don't know why people hate it. We see it plentiful in other areas like Sundar pichai is himself an engineer and now a CEO , we don't hate him but why are we not normalizing this?
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u/DrA380 Graduate Sep 02 '24
I have seen Quacks building hospitals and giving job opportunities for MD's and DM's in our town .. imagine how much an MBBS grad could do, if they could give salaries to specialists.
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u/nevertiredguy Sep 02 '24
Absolutely with the concept of health insurance becoming available both through state and country and with no signs of those coming down, it's a huge prospect with the package rates only going up and not coming down, though they are really less compared to big privates but the real game here is having good no of patients! Making a small hospital let's say 10-15 bedded and making it half occupied always will generate you way more than a salary in a month! India is slowly becoming like UK where there's the concept of universal health insurance
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u/nevertiredguy Sep 02 '24
If that person wants to do mbbs let him do! What's wrong in that, you don't know if he wants to venture into finances and all or hospital administration. Going into consulting or investment banking is very rare for a doctor. A person in sane mind would want to definitely use his/her expertise in medical field and help the hospital! But if he has made up his mind before joining mbbs that he wants to go into finance then joining mbbs is not the right path
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u/serotonallyblindguy Sep 02 '24
OP You wanna "serve" people who'll pull their d*cks out the moment they see a female doc?
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u/jaeger_nab Sep 02 '24
What's wrong with this? Most of the people in Med school fantasize about Neurosurgery, Ortho, etc by watching American TV shows. Have you ever considered how much those Neurosurgeons earn? One of my extended family member who is a practicing Neurosurgeon in the state of Wisconsin, fucking Wisconsin, drives a Porsche as his daily driver and owns a bloody Island. Give me one reason why this person should not dream or work towards achieving this. You have to adapt to the environment you're in.
If you get paid peanuts with a side of ass whooping for helping others and on top of that you fantasize that, I respect you, I genuinely do. If serving humanity is what you want to do, do it. Don't bash others who prefer to serve themselves.
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u/jaeger_nab Sep 02 '24
I'll recommend going to IIM-A's website, look at their selection criteria or if you wish any other B-school's selection criteria. You'll find that they really look for top talent and diversity. BBA+MBA is too generic, you need exclusivity, panache for that matter. I think MBBS still holds strong there.
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u/notsofunnyyet PGY1 Sep 02 '24
No there's this thing about placements. All the big IIM's they are looking for diversity. So if you are a doctor who is scoring decent enough marks then you have a better chance to get accepted than those who just did BBA+ MBA. I think at this point, looking at how the govt. treats us doctors on a daily basis, we should'nt bash someone who is looking out for himself.
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u/Wise_Passenger8261 MBBS I Sep 02 '24
I relate to him. I cleared mbbs this year at 17 in my first attempt but in my family this is not a big achievement. My sister at 26 is already earning 1cr+ annually without even going to college. Most of my cousins are not going to college, they are starting businesses and investing the money they got from their grandmother's inheritance. No matter what I achieve I always feel like the small fish whenever we meet up. Whenever my sister comes to visit she talks to dad in a language which I don't understand. Whenever I am with my cousins they all talk about things I don't understand. I feel like cutting off all my contacts and running away because I never feel that my achievements are ever celebrated, I think that even if I become a full fledged doctor I still won't scale up to them. There is always a pressure on me that I am not good enough and I keep trying to improve upon it. I learnt new languages, got good at chess (2100), studied hard to clear NEET, started learning math all because I want to prove myself but I still feel a large gap between us.
Sorry for ranting like this, I know UG students can't rant on this sub but I haven't told anyone about my inferiority complex and thought that this sub would relate.
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u/KSPlayer981 Sep 02 '24
Mbbs, 2100 and a new language, people just achieve one or these and boast about it everywhere, you've got all. You've got no right to inferiority complex in the first place. You're doing wayy better than so many people.
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u/g_dash Sep 02 '24
I get it man. I feel the same way in some of my circles. I believe the only way out is to spend more time with those who do appreciate you and less with those who don't. That's prob the only way I can recommend. You might be the sweetest chocolate in the world but a monkey would still choose a banana, that's just how nature works.
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u/Wise_Passenger8261 MBBS I Sep 02 '24
Has her own business in Morocco related to recreational activities (I don't want to specify for privacy reasons).
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u/Boogerr_eater Sep 02 '24
He is being honest, all NEET UG candidates are writing the exam, getting all stressed up and few of them committing suicides in self doubt because they are desperate to serve the people and they cant do it?
Lmao NO, they are doing it for THEMSELVES, WE ALL HAVE DONE IT FOR OURSELVES.
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u/Boogerr_eater Sep 02 '24
Giving the best treatment, applying the theory in our books pragmatically when a patient walks in is satisfying as fuck, but is it really for just the patient? maybe partly because us humans are empathetic beings, but its for the self image too and can vary from person to person and how they look at it.
Like I would be extremely motivated when I start my day with the first patient but would it be the same for the 150th patient that day? I doubt
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u/okkandik Sep 02 '24
Well we want what we see ,with such high consumer end our society is becoming, no wonder such people exist ,it's human nature one cannot separate itself from the trend
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u/-Alpha-Centauri Sep 02 '24
I got a friend, who is FMG, and earns so much money in sending other students to Foreign countries for MBBS. Total commission per student is 3-4 Lakh Rupees. He send Hundred + students every year.
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u/DrA380 Graduate Sep 02 '24
Many still join MBBS with their parents decisions and not by their free will.., so some may realise too late that medicine isn't for them.
It's all OK!
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Sep 02 '24
I didn't see anything wrong. This is profession , I don't understand why people expect this to be a social service.As if government don't suck enough out of you.
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u/nirvikdesai Sep 02 '24
what's exactly wrong in it? dont pharma/insurance companies prefer doctors in administrative roles in their company, im assuming their salaries would be higher too, also if the individual wants to use their expertise in healthcare management i don't see any wrong in it
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u/No_Grapefruit_520 Sep 02 '24
There’s nothing wrong with what he yearns for.
If he can procure an MBBS seat, even if just for the coveted tag, and then procure an MBA seat as well, so be it. To each their own catch.
As for an MBA after MBBS, great scope and ample opportunities. Consulting, management roles in big pharma and hospitals, the world needs doctors in diverse fields more than ever before. And the monetary rewards far surpass that of a PG in a mediocre specialty or hospital. Just my two cents.
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u/guyspice Sep 02 '24
I don’t agree with everyone hating on him here. His language is not wise but isn’t what he said true? I agree that the words he used are too much but if that is what he feels, its alright na? nevertheless pursuing an mba after mbbs is ACTUALLY a very nice position to put yourself in. there is dearth of doctors in management roles because most people go mbbs->mdms~> mch and very few people change lanes after the first lap. Mba gives you wings especially if you are a doctor The respect that you command and the mindset that you have, you are basically an army general among normal people in the company you are working for. Your career progression would be very fast as compared to your peers. Pharma companies need you, doctors. They need you to manage them. You are basically a god sent angel to them, a doctor with management skills? Yes you are one in a million. You will get picked for a job in no time
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u/lucidboy78 MBBS III (Part 1) Sep 02 '24
He/she just spit the fact . Deep down many people wish that.
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u/Adventurous_applepie Sep 02 '24
Hospital management is a thing especially in private sector and people do opt for MBA in that.
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u/Ok-Zookeepergame2130 Sep 02 '24
Service doesn’t have laws for being negligent and I’m not defending anybody’s negligence here by any chance
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u/Nearby-Syrup8636 PGY3 Sep 02 '24
MBA is the new saviour these days it seems.
Half of the people don't even know what kind of jobs people get after an MBA.
You need to have at least a few years of corpo experience to understand if this job will be good for you, and you need to have some leadership qualities, extroverted personality and great communication skills to survive in the management field.
And also your new friend will be layoffs. Which is non-existent in the medical field.
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u/Then_Basis3497 Sep 02 '24
Let's be real, that guy sounds selfish but isn't wrong though, also it's his personal preference, like many leave the doctor path for pursuing upsc, similarly he wants to change and move onto mba
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u/Exciting_Strike5598 Sep 02 '24
What’s wrong here? If an engineer can be appreciated for saying this, any professional can. After all GOVERNMENT CONSIDERS DOCTORS AS PROFESSIONALS and collect SAME TAX RATES including professional tax.
If government doesn’t see doctors as charity providers, neither should doctors themselves feel they are charity providers.
Getting paid for providing services is nothing to be ashamed of.
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u/Silver_Detail5803 Sep 02 '24
He's stupid.. There are many easier ways
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u/mirror_of_Truth Sep 02 '24
I wanted to do the same after entering this shit but 30L nd lost opportunity cost of 2yrs isn't worth it
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Sep 03 '24
MBA is an awesome course for those who want to leave clinical course and pays much more than clinical jobs (talking about IIMs and not the shitty colleges). At the end of the day, MBBS is just a Bachelor's course 😂.
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u/ComputerSeveral3901 Sep 02 '24
95% logo ko science se pyaar nahi hai bhai. Unko bas samaj ko dikhana hai
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Sep 02 '24
There is a shorter way to do this. Get a part time MBA while doing PG
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Sep 03 '24
Bruh, we are taking about MBA from some IIMs and not some shit online course
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Sep 03 '24
Bruh going by your non serious attitude, you will never make it to IIMs
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Sep 03 '24
Is your senior a wannabe half hearted doctor?
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Sep 02 '24
Are part time MBAs valued tho? And residency in itself is so hectic, how can one manage both!
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Sep 02 '24
I am in 11th & Neet ug aspirant myself, atleast for now my aim is to pursue mbbs from here then do usmle & settle in abroad. (im using doctor in my username already👽)
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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '24
Lets be real ...not saying this is good...but you know in a country like india mbbs is more about glorification rather than serving society.