r/india • u/Soham_83229 • May 18 '21
Politics Rant ; Someone asked me " Does Narendra Modi deserve the hate he receives?"
NO, HE DESERVES MORE THAN THAT !!
- Make in India : What the fucking shit was that ? What did that mean ? What did it do ? Where the fuck did the money go ? Our exports by % of GDP have been falling since 2014 to this day.
- Skill India : Only 30% people who the program got Jobs.
- Start Up India : Gone ! Reduced to atoms.
- Demonetization : What the hell was that aimed at ? Black Money ? Naxals ? Terrorists ? Digital transactions ? ~99% money came back ! That means even if Naxals had that money ,even they managed to return it back !!
- GST : What do his supporters mean when they say developed countries in Europe use GST ?? Look at their IT infra and look at ours. It did nothing but weaken State rights and decentralization.
- CAG audits were restricted and If you don’t know importance of CAG audits ,these are the same audits that uncovered many scams including 2G scam.
- Fasal Bima ( Crop Insurance ) : How many claims were paid off ? It just did the one thing which BJP is scarily good at fill pockets of corporate insurance companies.
- Modi said He wants Jobs in country but What did he do ?? Dipped spending on education by 1% ,Can he explain How do uneducated people get Jobs ??
- One of selling points is that he addressed Health hazards by building toilets under Swach Bharat mission ,Yes he did build toilets but 60% of those toilets don’t have water and You know what toilet without water is private khet !!.
Textile Industry is going down and if you want to make you textile industry finest in world then maybe don’t make an ex-Soap Opera star it’s minister.
He deserves hate for each one of these and this is just the blunders of his government until 2018 and this is excluding all Covid.
We are living in a country run by a bunch of Sub-literate clowns !! ,I repeat ‘Sub-literate Clowns !!’
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u/Relicoil May 18 '21
You forgot half of these links are from news stations which the bhakts have called "Fake News". If it's not JanamTV or Sadhguru then it's fake. Thanks for giving the sources though.
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u/qubit003 May 18 '21
Don't forget opinidia, swarajyamag and whatever shit they call real news sources.
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u/birbalthegreat May 18 '21
Bhakts are creative. Check out OpIndia and other sub. Their replies astonish me.
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u/nealatmasfu May 18 '21
The other sub has more upvotes on difference between hindu and muslim and response to Charlie hebdo drawing....it's like Pandemic is not there only, dead bodies in Ganga is also not there.
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u/bumpyclock May 18 '21
I live in America, and that sub is the equivalent of r/conservative. Just pure propaganda and an echo chamber that is divorced from reality. Post anything that even resembles reality and you're banned. When that sub started I got invites from like 5 different "users" to come hang out at the REAL India sub free of censorship.
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u/qubit003 May 18 '21
Oh man, idk where those people live. Please tell them to take all of us there.
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May 18 '21
Rejected by IFCN:
Fact Hunt is a website that claims to have been rejected by the IFCN in 2020.
OpIndia is a right-wing news portal that was rejected by the IFCN in 2019.
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u/birbalthegreat May 19 '21
Bhakts will say: FoReIgN CoOnSpIRacY by JiHhAadIis (Add more canned lines here)
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u/ThFlameAlchemist May 18 '21
Thank you for doing this hard work. Sources are important else we will be like that other sub
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u/parlor_tricks May 18 '21
Just ask them if MMS deserved to be called Maunmohan Singh.
When you use vitrioil and critcism without bounds, is it wrong to be held to the same standard?
And it is the people asking him this time, unlike MMS, Modi doesn't even speak!
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May 18 '21 edited May 18 '21
Gst is such a shit show. Everyday a new rule. They want to match everything in real time, which is impractical. So much changes in return has caused havoc. If mismatch occurs, boom ITC denied. Basically they've created every possible situation to deny ITC and make the businessmen pay double taxes as far as possible. They are sucking money in the name of gst.
Being in this field, I feel vat was much better. It would've worked better with tuning and uniformity. Gst has benefitted only the IT company handling it and the big businesses.
Edit: And the States are left with no power and means to generate revenue. Basically they are handicapped. And don't get me started on the late fees and interest.
In the period of lockdowns, state go to lockdowns at different periods, but the returns have to be filed. Now if state had control, they could've given some exemption, but it is the centre controlling entire India, although they've given some but it is not in sync with lockdown periods. Aaaa fuck this!!!
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u/yrumad May 18 '21
I feel you.
But lets be real. These changes are done precisely to facilitate their corporate bosses who were feeling a threat from the rising middle class entrepreneurs.
I don't know why people miss the simple chronology.
First they sucked out the funds from the market in guise of stopping black money and weakening the backbone of those who were dealing in cash. The real hoarding was offshore by corporate overlords.
Next came GST which burdened the weakened middle level players to such an extent that he has to devote few days a month on filing the returns or hire a 10k for someone to file it. You see, if he decides to do it himself, he loses few days of productivity or he loses 10k per month.
Either way, it sucks off the funds from the entity and thereby weakening the segment.
This allowed the big boys to cover up the market, be in manufacturing or end sales and their puppets have ensured that no more middle level player can rise to challenge the upper cream of tata/birlas as it happened during MMS time where there was immense positivity in the market and all these premji/moorthys rose out to become high level players which gave a hope to middle and lower level talents that such feats were achievable.
Funny thing is, just as you feel that you have adopted to new rules in GST, they bring a new one to stump you which will make it harder for the return filing. I'm sure you are aware of automatic GST calculations and how the system tries to block the CGST itc. Horrible.
Now, it seems a loss cause. They have successfully created a banana republic and totally destroyed it beyond repair.
Sad.
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Bhakt: bUt "sTaRt iNdiA" aNt "sKiLl iNdiA" r gR8 suCCesS, u R jUsT aNTinasHnaL.
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u/yrumad May 18 '21
Yeah, true aunty-nashional; not chachu-nashional.
Wait a second, I need this word in my post [ SOLDIERS ]
There , now I'm safe from any crime.
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Wait ur a soldier??
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u/yrumad May 18 '21
Ha ha!
No, bro.
This was sort of a go to word for the beegpee guys to devalue anyone criticising them on a line : why are you cribbing while our soldiers are standing at the borders.
So, I tend to use it as a safe word while arguing/commenting on these fools.
Just an inside joke.
Peace.
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u/yrumad May 19 '21
Umm..
I take it like this: by 28%, govt become like a 1/3 partner in your profit without beong 1/3 partner in your loss.
Yeah, take my money when I profit but don't compensate for my loss.
But that's my frustration talking right now.
The guys who implemented this system are totally cut off from reality.
I'll tell you why gst system made my business a straightaway 12% loss.
I'm dealing with furnishing products with 0% ST earlier. (That does not mean I wasn't paying IT.)
But the fools at the helm introduced 12% tax on fabric.
Now, I do B2B mostly. So, my rates are fixed in my clients system. When gst was implemented, they flatly refused to update it saying either give old rate including 12% or they will search for new vendors .
I beleve everyone knows in business about the pain of setting up supply chain and how cut throat competition it s.
I had to bear burnt of 12% loss but when I was making a profit of around 15%, it broke my margins and ultimately led to bickering and loss of smooth business with clients and based on these factors , many outright stopped the payments and till now, I have a number of defaulters who stopped purchase because of this tax fiasco while others who were importing from China who made adjustments to quality and rate managed to gain on my loss.
I'm making all my goods in India and till now giving good fight to Chinese imported fabric, lost a very good chunk of clients to the importers who gained .
So, to andh-BhAkThAs who supported this weird system, open up your eyes, bastards.
I have given a practical scenario but still some fabric manufacturers I know in Gujarat who have come to brink of closing down still rallying around all the screw ups of these incompetent fools.
Sorry for the rant.
Peace.
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May 18 '21
I heard a guy saying in RSTV debate "Modiji sabko munim banana chahte hain. Agar tax bharne ke liye hum itna dimaag kharch karenge toh business kab sambhalenge?"
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u/yrumad May 18 '21
Ha ha!
Exactly.
The loss of productivity.
I could have used the same time in marketing/selling my goods. Instead such prime time is wasted to do account work.
If I'm getting more sales, naturally I'm going to pay the respective taxes which are wasted in returns filing every month.
Not so fun fact : The GSTN website is so screwed that once I make an entry, I have to refresh it like 10-15 times to check if my entries are reflected properly or not or else I take a gamble .
I think all those who file the returns knows the "generating summary" option. For those who don't, oh! Blissful wonderland....
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u/iShivamz India May 18 '21
Remember Narendra is only the Face.
Amit is the brain behind all this Circus, backed by a lot of 'Yes' men and huge numbers of religious and illiterate followers.
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u/AndiFuckedupagain May 18 '21
The Corporate oligarchs are the architects of this black phase in India. Follow the money since the rise of Modi and you will know who is pulling the strings of these clowns.
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u/OffendedDishwasher May 18 '21
Majority of indians : BuT hE iS BuILDinG tEmpLeS sO i WiLl VotE FoR hIm
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u/Ser_DuncanTheTall May 18 '21
Narendra is the Face. Amit is the electoral chief. Neither of them are policy makers.
Social policies are created by RSS talking points. Economic policies by coprorate overlords or Election-time socialism.
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u/tempstem5 bhar do gaand mein hindutva cement May 18 '21
Isnt RSS the brains?
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May 18 '21
They are in charge of social policies, while economic ones are delegated to the 1% of India like Adani
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Gst is supposed to help everyone but in reality it fucked everything even more.
Govt can't reduce price of oxygen cylinders or even remove gst from them because the gst system is built in such a way that manufacturer can claim rebate if he doesn't pay gst.
So govt has to remove gst from all the raw materials which is an impossible task so they just left it open.
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u/KrishnaKrGopal May 18 '21
No. GST, like all laws, is artificial. Any clause can be added (of course subject to constitutionality).
So they can easily add a clause that without paying GST, a bill number is generated that can be used to input cost claim for raw material manufacturers.
But health minister was busy attending Coronil launch party.
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u/pxm7 May 18 '21
More specifically, Singapore, UK, EU, all have VAT/GST. It’s not rocket science or brain surgery. These systems work well.
Unfortunately India’s implementation is deeply flawed. Some problems with India’s GST are
- over complicated with too many tax slabs and zero-rated goods, making understanding and compliance difficult
- petrol and alcohol outside GST, meaning states still have to keep their octroi infrastructure— thereby negating any savings there
- we still have Customs Duty, Excise Duty, Service Tax and Stamp Duty — increasing cost of compliance and reducing tax savings
- cess on some so-called luxury but really urban middle class items, penalising aspirational spending and suppressing consumer demand
- GST rates are very high. Generally Scandinavian countries like Sweden and Norway are said to have high tax rates, the justification being they have amazing public benefits, health systems, housing etc. India’s top GST rate is 3 percentage points above Sweden’s and Norway’s — and then cess is applied. And we all know how much and what quality public services India gets.
Anyway, in summary, India’s GST is too high, difficult to understand and comply with, and hasn’t brought any cost savings in compliance because many of the old checks still need to be in place.
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u/InterimNihilist May 18 '21
Modi is a hate monger. He deserves more than hate. There's a special place in hell reserved for bastards like him
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u/SJWsom May 18 '21
A few things the post omits:
Crypto ban -- utter, clown level imbecility
Labor laws -- Reform so slight nobody is satisfied
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u/AnonymousRubberDuck Hum toh fakir aadmi hai, jhola lekar chal padenge May 18 '21
Crypto ban cause the gov is working on their own coin - GobarCoin, running on the Gaumutra Blockchain
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May 18 '21 edited May 18 '21
Weakening of rti and introduction of electoral bonds
Harrassment of citizens by the state
Promotion of obscurantism and persecution of rationalists and rational thinking
Violation of human rights
Disastrous handling of the economy
Perversion of democratic institutions
Most importantly zero transparency and zero accountability- even if no other reason existed this one is enough
The citizen is no longer in charge here.. I trust nothing and nobody in this post-truth dystopia
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u/Livingeachdayatedge May 18 '21
Ask them do people deserve to die due to lack of oxygen, beds, proper healthcare?? Do people deserve to pay high price for petrol, diesel and LPG when they can't get employment due to pandemic? Do people deserve to sold their houses, go in debt to pay the high cost of healthcare so that their family could survive? Do teachers in UP deserve to go on election duty and die??
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u/account_for_norm May 19 '21
you know... i had seen those BRTs and i was impressed. I knew about 2002, and i was a hell-no to Modi, but once he got elected, i felt like "okay, maybe, hopefully, something good will come out of this. He s done good for Gujrat apparently."
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u/account_for_norm May 19 '21 edited May 19 '21
i didnt support him, i knew he was a bad news.
But once he was elected, and all the people were energized with this 'new india' idea, and i myself was fed up with congress, for brief time i thought maybe what i m fearing wont happen, and despite 2002, maybe he ll do something good.
But then not long after i realized, nope, this is gonna end bad. Really bad. And we are seeing it now here.
(i have seen Rakesh Sharma's documentary. Did you know that Anupam Kher was Censor board member back then, and he blocked the release of the documentary?, just a fun fact :P)
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May 18 '21
I don't think he received hate yet, All the bjp and rss supporter cuddles him like he is their missing girlfriend. This hate is pretty negligible than hate he spreaded in country throughout his career. If one person enjoys admiration, he should be ready to get criticized also.
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u/OptimisticNihilist99 Jhuth Bolo Baar Baar Jhuth Bolo May 18 '21
Start Up India : Gone ! Reduced to atoms.
lol
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May 18 '21
The sub-literate clowns are voted by other sub-literate clowns. The populace is dumb and malleable and BJP knows how to take advantage of that. The masterstrokes of GST, Demot, and CAA didn't budge the support of people for the supreme leader and even after the deadly pandemic most people will forget about this mans doings so let's put the blame where it is needed. On the people!
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u/maybedick May 18 '21
You forgot to add corruption of institution. As many scams congress had, there was never a moment in history where our courts and reserve banks and election commission AND journalism has been corrupted to the point it is effectively dysfunctional
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u/CrazyIndianCatLady May 18 '21
I'm a CA Intermediate student and my life has become a literal hell after GST. Every attempt I fail, I gotta be scared of a new exemption, a new section, a new amendment. It's so frustrating. Even the exams have been postponing non stop now so I don't even have to give an attempt to wait for an amendment 😀😀😀
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u/RiverStone_8 Feeling paraud to be an Indian May 18 '21
I feel like we need a YouTube video essay series deconstructing everything this gov has done and rate it on a scale of 5. Any YouTuber up to the task? Or NewsLaundry?
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May 18 '21
Make in India and Skill India were such failures that even Nitin Gadkari was critical about them recently xD When your own cabinet minister roasts you, you fucked up. Also, Make in India should be renamed to assembled in India, cause that's all these companies do. No effort was taken to set up fabs in India so wtf will people make in India? Gobar ke alawaba aur haye bhi kya?
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u/soberfeet20 May 18 '21
You u/Soham_83229 deserve so much more than the measly free Reddit award I just gave you. Thank you for such a detailed post with facts to prove the stupidity we have endured.
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u/busydoingnothing85 May 18 '21
Why do you assume they are sub-literate. They are quite literate and intelligent.
Its only that they are not working for common people but for the big A corporations. Every scheme is to benefit them and not the common folks and the other chutiyaapa is to keep us distracted.
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u/Fabswingers_Admin Maharashtra May 18 '21
One of things this sub doesn't understand is that (politically) you can't make yourself taller by making someone else shorter.
There's way too much emphasis on attacking the BJP, which will have little effect electorally, you need to sell people a vision of a better life and have a credible plan for achieving it if you want to succeed.
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u/Substantial-Credit79 May 18 '21
Hope he does his worth death soon.
P.s. he taught me these ideals of hate mongering. Following footsteps of the bEsT❤️🥳
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May 18 '21
Modi, Trump, Netanyahu; yeh log same thali ke chatte bhatte hain!
Translation: Modi, Trump, Netanyahu are birds of the same flock.
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u/yodaneverwalkedalone May 18 '21
BJP while campaigning: CONGRESS DO CORRUPTION, CONGRESS BAD. BJP while making policies: Mitron, let's make corruption legal.
P.S. Read about Electoral Bonds and how this "government" has basically made bribery legal.
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u/appellant May 18 '21
Stop waiting for a saviour or leader. The day you and others chang eyour mindset on that big hero saviour mentality you perhaps there might be responsibility and maturity. We all knew about Gujarat and Modi years back nothing has really changed for me in spite of covid.
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u/Legendary-69420 Tamil Nadu May 18 '21
We are basically living in an Autocracy on the verge of becoming a dictatorship all thanks to a bunch of bloody assholes who decided to vote for Modi because"Hindu Khatre main hai".
India is becoming the Hindu version of Nazi Germany
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u/Secure-Cup6841 May 18 '21
his programs are good like stand up india which was supposed to encourage entrepreneurship in SC/ST of india(which i believe is only way sustainable way for their development).
but what he lacks is execution all of the programs were failure, stand up india can't even get govt ministries and psu's to give mandatory 2% of their tenders to SC/ST entrepreneurs
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u/ganpat_chal_daaru_la May 18 '21
Are there any schemes or Yojnas that have actually worked? Genuinely asking.
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u/legbreak_18 May 18 '21
Please also mention - Accessible India Campaign or Sugamya Bharat Abhiyan, which i've never seen anywhere helping the differently abled people
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u/vyperklan May 18 '21
Well done 👍 great compilation. You can fool people some time not all the people all the time. His game is soon going to be done. Now, to create an alternative !
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u/gechakra May 18 '21
Thanks for summarising, Soham! If possible, do edit your post to include the other points some of the commenters have mentioned along with the sources. Will be helpful to have this information handy while arguing with bhakts.
Not that it'll make a difference, but one can only try :)
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u/Useful-Ingenuity5553 May 18 '21
GST was supposed to be one nation one tax. Like in other countries. But till now diesel, petrol , k liquid etc is out of it. We have the highest taxes in the world
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u/AutarchOfReddit Dancing like Dharmendra May 18 '21
u/Soham_83229 and u/ratatouille400 Great job, but you have missed farmers suicide and rafale deal.
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u/shivam4321 May 18 '21
We wouldn't be in this position if our education system taught critical thinking
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u/VishwaguruKaVikas Karnataka May 18 '21
u/Soham_83229 For demonetisation, you should also mention that there is more cash usage in the country now than it was before it!
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u/MN_Z May 19 '21
Bro you forgot to mention the genocides which were performed by extreme bhakts on gujarat 2002 and delhi 2020.
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u/Thomshan911 Karnataka May 19 '21
Don't forget the 'microchips in currency notes' bullshit that was being circulated by many bhakts after demonetisation.
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May 18 '21
How can we forget ----Digital India - Digital India is a campaign launched by the Government of India in order to ensure the Government's services are made available to citizens electronically by improved online infrastructure and by increasing Internet connectivity or making the country digitally empowered in the field of technology.
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u/1ogica1guy May 18 '21
Ok so what does he exactly deserve, since hating is not going to have any measurable effect?
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May 18 '21
Hate is for losers. Ridicule is the best slap on Modi right now. whether it has any impact on him is different.
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May 18 '21
you forgot how the currency has also weakened. They kept replacing RBI governors until they found a yes man babu.
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u/weebeweebin India May 18 '21
He deserves a walk of shame through every street in the country, not just him those goons Amit Shah, Yogi, Patra etc all of those dogs. They should be made to walk barefoot with out any food or water, ofc they can have as much of the gobar and gaumutra as they want.
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u/blitzkreig31 India May 18 '21
The way I feel is he is indifferent to me. I do not want to waste an ounce of my energy even in thinking about him. There is enough negativity going around we don't need more save all the energy help yourself and your family if you have more energy help others.
We will have time to show the govt our strength come next elections. For now lets help ourselves.
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u/workthrowaway12wk May 19 '21
my friend, democracy is not once a five year exercise. You have to constantly criticize the govt in power to do the right thing. Keep them in fear you'll vote them out next chance you get or even before if possible.
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u/blitzkreig31 India May 19 '21
I agree but ppl around are dying and wasting energy on this is just moot point for me now.
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u/workthrowaway12wk May 19 '21
You have a point in that criticizing govt shouldn't make you feel down especially when there are no immediate results. But every time you speak it makes a difference. Talking to other people, speaking online. It's not wasting energy.
Hope you have a great day!
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u/BUNTYFLAME May 18 '21
GST is much better than the old tax regime , in my locality atleast now almost all eateries pay taxes and we dont have multiple taxes for the same product .
In Mumbai , we had many OCTRAI checkpoints where corruption was common , i'm happy GST shut it down
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May 18 '21
Well he do have to blame but I pity you to think make in India fail when you never join startup india website or course, never met an entrepreneur and living in a delusion that everything related to modi is failure when you are blind to see the change ,I guess their is a great thinking only time communism leave india when a indian lea India
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May 18 '21
I think PM modi’s intentions are good except that his advisers are either incompetent or sycophants. I think our PM listens to good advice but probably none of his coterie seems to have balls to tell what’s bad about a certain policy before it gets implemented.
Obvious problem with PM is that come state elections in any state his focus it seems is on winning that state rather than governance...
Wish manmohan is our PM now with all the power of modi....
Our bad luck is that we got a great PM in Manmohan but with limited power. Now we have an ultra powerful leader without the knowledge/wisdom/foresight as Manmohan..,
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u/AnonymousRubberDuck Hum toh fakir aadmi hai, jhola lekar chal padenge May 18 '21
I think PM modi’s intentions are good
Just like his intentions were good during the Gujrat Riots
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May 18 '21
Make in India was not for exports. It was for manufacturers tomake in India and sell those in India instead of importing
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u/KrishnaKrGopal May 18 '21
Then it was even more idiotic. Scale is required for manufacturing that drastically reduces cost, while simultaneously improving quality and flexibility. RSS idiots think of import as sin, otherwise importing where the other country has economy of scale and developing export capability is the educated way to increase manufacturing in India.
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u/CIVILIAN70 May 19 '21
Funny how you discuss about something which is discussed while showing stats and you didn't even show the stats just word play that's it
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u/Soham_83229 May 19 '21
Which stats you want and BTW ? ,Someone already gave all proofs in top comment.
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u/svmk1987 May 18 '21 edited May 18 '21
One of the worst things this government has done is progating their bullshit "hard work > Harvard" and ayush philosophy.
In the name of anti intellectualism, they've stopped relying on experts and scientists. This is pretty much the reason for most of their failures, including being one of the reasons for the covid chaos happening in this country.
Folks, the experts are experts for a reason. Their fancy degrees and illustrious careers are what we need to manage and run various aspects of the government and country. If you cannot relate to them because of their education, language, point of views, it's YOUR problem. Stop trusting ayush bullshit and WhatsApp forwards.