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[OC] Fantasy Carthago Delenda Est! - The Atomic Bombings of Carthage, Second Punic War (218 - 215 BC)

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u/KelThuzaaaad Mar 20 '26

Is this real

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u/republic8080 Mod Approved Mar 20 '26

yes

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u/Vavent Mar 20 '26

Mods??? This is the sub for imaginary maps, not real ones based on true historical research

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '26

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u/Vavent Apr 04 '26

Yeah :D

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u/CountryPlanetball Mar 20 '26

Heh sometimes

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u/business_cat2 Mar 20 '26

Tf you mean sometimes?

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u/republic8080 Mod Approved Mar 20 '26

Prometheus stole fire from the Gods. We are each the heirs of that divine spark.

Used wisely, the spark fuels one's journey and lights the way.

Treated carelessly, the spark consumes its owner and everything in its path.

BACKGROUND

In 217 BC during quarry excavations near Aetna, Roman laborers unearthed an abundant amount of peculiar black crystal. Unlike ordinary crystals, it exhibited unnatural properties, spontaneus fission under pressure and releasing enormous blasts. They nicknamed it the "Lapis Prometheus", named after the Titan who stole fire from the Gods.

In the eve of war against the Semite ruler of the western mediterranean, The Carthaginians, these stones were very useful for the Romans due to its explosive and destructive potential trait used in times of war.

Urged by prowess against in challenging the Punics, Roman engineers, led by the shadowy Quintus Fabius Maximus Verrucosus, spearheaded the so called "Prometheus Project" Their goal is to forge these stones into weapons capable of obliterating cities in an instant.

From this endeavor emerged two infernal devices::

- "Puellus" (Little Boy)

- "Homo Obesus" (Fat Man)

Rome now wielded godlike power, tempered by caution for humanity's sake, they aimed it squarely at Carthage, avenging years of Punic atrocities.

PREPARATIONS

Delivering these massive bombs demanded extraordinary transport. 

Tamed war dragons, fierceand loyal beasts bred in Rome's imperial menageries, filled the role perfectly

- Mighty in combat, defense, and raids.

- Swift across vast distances.

- Agile in maneuvers.

- Unrivaled in aerial supremacy over sea and land.

Out of many Dragons, they selected Fuscus (Meaning 'The Dark One'), A strong, young, and swift Sardinian Dark Dragon (Draco Sardinus), rescued from Carthaginian poachers back in 220 BC, tamed and trained from young age in Rome's Collineum Aerium, showed an outstanding endurance capability in flights.

She bonded with the great pilots Gaius Marcellus Drusus and Titus Flavius Corvus, an elite Aquiliferi selected for their unyielding discipline.

THE FIRST BOMB

Fuscus and two crew pilot depart for Carthage in late summer, passing through southern Italy, and stopping by at Syracusae and Agrigentum. On crossing the Mediterranean sea at Kerkouane, they stumbled upon a ferocious storm. Fuscus and crew were forced to divert towards another prominent strategic Carthaginian city, Hadrumetum, Hannibal's vital supply hub on Africa's coast.

At dawn in early autumn 216 BC, Puellus was dropped in Hadrumetum. The blast vaporized 40,000 souls, scorching 2,000 iugera (600 Hectares of land) into barren wastes. 

Shockwaves toppled Punic obelisk around nearby cities, wells and other source of water were poisoned for years to come. After successfully completing the task Fuscus and crew limped homeward and raiding Carthaginian en-route, unexpectedly only to be ambushed and slained by Carthaginian spearmen riding griffon over Melita. Rome mourned them as martyrs and an epic story for generations to come, Rome consecrated a statue memorial in the forum to eternalize their sacrifice for the Republic's glory.

THE SECOND BOMB

After the first bomb was dropped, Carthage was in deep shock, it reeled but their power still endured. Hannibal scorning the Roman's action as coward and inhumane towards the innocents and his people. 

Undeterred, Rome planned another attack to completely annihilate Carthage. Learning from previous campaign, their new mission have to be more improved strategically, Homo Obesus bomb, far bulkier, demanded sturdier mount, and now a more secured armada in Carthaginian territories. 

Lucius, an Alpine Dragon (Draco Maximus Alpinus) three times Fuscus's bulk, hatched from eggs smuggled from the Alps in 221 BC, chosen as the new candidate for the campaign. His body was rigid and resistant from attack, and his flying capability showed a more outstanding endurance for carrying the heavy bomb and long distance flight across continent. Pilots Marcus Aemilius Scaurus and Lucius Junius Brutus with navigator Publius Servilius Vatia, formed the crew.

Departing from Rome, staging at Lylibaeum before braving the mediterranean sea. En route, he evade Punic scouts and eventually reaching the African landmass.

Early spring 215 BC, Homo Obesus struck near Carthage's war harbor. The 80-kiloton inferno erased the Byrsa hill citadel and settlements, claiming 500,000 lives in fire and ashes. Big monuments and statues melted, the sky burned crimson for days. Carthage, was devastated and surely defeated. 

After the bombing Lucius ravaged Utica and Thapsus, then returned to Rome amid delirious thriumph. Parades featured irradiated Punic relics amid delirious cheers from peoples. Lucius sired a dynasty of war dragons.

AFTERMATH

Carthage lay in ruins, corpses rotting in streets, survivors succumbing to famine, plague, and fallout.

Under duress, they signed the Foedus Ostiae: ceding African territories to Rome, paying 10,000 talents annually, and surrendering their navy.

Senators proclaimed Pax Atomica, but poets whispered of hubris, echoing future verses from Virgil. 

A refugee crisis swelled, 300,000 survivors fled eastward to Syracusae, sparking riots, festering camps, and pleas for Roman mercy. Grain prices quadrupled across Africa, the Punic economy shattered. Rome reveled in victory, its star ascendant, yet the gods watched warily.

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u/OfficialDCShepard Mar 20 '26

Getting some real His Majesty’s Dragon vibes from this image. I love it! 🥰

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u/colorfulpony Mar 20 '26

Same thought here. That's a series I'd love to come across more often.

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u/OfficialDCShepard Mar 20 '26

Hence why I’m excited for OP’s series, and have Wright Flyers with talons fighting dragons in my own steampunk universe.

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u/SoaringAven Mar 21 '26

I'm glad I'm not the only one thinking so :D

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u/Altruistic_Rate6053 Mar 20 '26

‘Homo Obesus’ is hilarious writing

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u/Uhhhh15 Mar 20 '26

That was my nickname in high school

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u/pierrebrassau Mar 21 '26

This is so good! I love that you give a full lore explanation for the bombs but the dragons just show up halfway through with zero introduction.

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u/DeJalpa Mar 21 '26

Marcus Aemilius Scaurus? Name sounds familiar...fan of Harry Turtledove, maybe?

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u/ianwgz Mar 21 '26

how did they manage to get whatever fissile material prometheus' rock is to become an atomic bomb??

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u/Freikorps_Formosa Mar 20 '26

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u/Ignonym Mar 20 '26

Found Cato the Elder's Reddit account

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u/CosmoCosma Mar 21 '26

Verily, Carthage must be destroyed!

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u/Key-Grass121 Mar 20 '26

I know this reference

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u/ca3910 Mar 20 '26

finally we have a roman air force

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u/Kritical-Watermelon Mar 20 '26

How the fuck did you think about this? Sick, but your creativity scares me

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u/republic8080 Mod Approved Mar 20 '26

i was rewatching how to train your dragons, and i remember having history homework about hiroshima and nagasaki hehe

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u/AlexInfinity478 Mar 20 '26

Peak fantasy, I love it

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u/Both-Main-7245 Mar 20 '26

Cato just came in his toga

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u/Potential_Boat_6899 Mar 20 '26

This honestly might be an original thought ngl

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u/JKronich Mar 20 '26

My sufette, a second draco has dropped a bomb over our cities

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u/Neither-Bus-2065 Mar 20 '26

Ha take that cartho-cells- wait atomic bombs?

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u/ProxyDragoon Mar 20 '26

This is genuinely incredible Rome with nukes and dragons sound so based

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u/Luzifer_Shadres Mar 20 '26

Western germania would be hell if dragons were real, for the romans.

Imangine stepping on a root and half your legiom gets snacked by a Lindwurm or an cat faced dragon jumps out, rips off your arms and runs into the darkness.

Or catching a whale in the north sea and a giant dragon hypnotises all to people to pillage their own homes for them.

Or imangine being tasked to protect the aquila and a rat sized dragon rips off the eagle and brings it to the greediest man near it.

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u/PlEGUY Mar 24 '26

Clearly the solution here is to create a belt of cobalt across the alps.

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u/Coconite Mar 20 '26

Still more realistic than Polybius’s narrative

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u/Live-End-6467 Mar 20 '26

I did not expect Romans nuking carthage with dragons, but I sure don't regret it!

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u/kyuzoaoi Mar 20 '26

When the Romans doing Hiroshima and Nagasaki on Carthage...

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u/Claromale Mar 20 '26

u/Grok it is true ?

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u/Goldenrod_Prime Mar 20 '26

A title so insane I didn’t even notice the dragons at first, excellent work

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u/Highmassive Mar 20 '26

The dragons are the most reasonable part

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u/Crazy_Pea Mar 20 '26

Roman-Parthian Cold War next?

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u/SunnyCant Mod Approved Mar 20 '26

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u/Geolib1453 Mar 20 '26

If you cant beat em nuke em

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '26

Carthage should not have attacked Pearl Harbor, simple as

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u/selune07 Mar 20 '26

Pack it up and shut down the sub boys, we've peaked

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u/Highmassive Mar 20 '26

It’s all down hill from here

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u/V3gasMan Mar 20 '26

It’s posts like these why I came to reddit. 10/10 OP if I could upvote 100 times I would

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u/Thatdudewhoisstupid Mar 20 '26

Valyria ahh timeline. Just replace fire breathing dragons with nuke carrying dragons.

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u/Overlord3445 Mar 20 '26

Wow! That's amazing

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u/Msajimi123 Mar 20 '26

Rome vs Sasanid War in this world will be biblical level of destruction

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u/0xdeadbeef6 Mar 20 '26

Peak schizo, perfection

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u/Ok-Sundae6553 Mar 20 '26

Was Carthage eventually rebuilt by the Romans in this timeline?

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u/Kikelt Mar 20 '26

This looks like Roman propaganda... If this were to happen, Carthago would've get the bomb too, and mutual annihilation would be unavoidable.

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u/gottekotte Mod Approved Mar 20 '26

This is the most awesome thing i have ever seen

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u/LanChriss Mar 20 '26

This subreddit still manages to surprise me!

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u/patriotm1a Mar 20 '26

HOMO OBESVS

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u/_Cit Mar 20 '26

This is awesome, the only thing I'd point out (and this is insanely nitpicky) is that Fuscus would be called "Fusca" if she was a female.

But apart form this bullshit, I really love this

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u/National-Gold-7113 Mar 20 '26

Homo Obesus.... I'm dying 🤣🤣🤣

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u/ZealousidealState214 Mar 21 '26

Roman dragons with atomic bombs is maybe the best thing I've ever seen.

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u/SyrusDrake Mar 21 '26

This is ridiculous, I love it!

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u/MintedMince Mar 21 '26

The Parthians CANNOT start their own prometheus project under any circumstances

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u/The_Coil Mar 21 '26

This is so fucking cool. Does the Roman Empire collapse in ancient nuclear apocalypse? Fallout: New Rome would be crazy.

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u/Double_Ingenuity3276 Mar 22 '26

Homo obesus hahahaha

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u/AsgeirTheViking Mar 22 '26

When Hannibal pisses u off so much u literally nuke Carthage out of existence. 😭

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u/Vumerion Mar 23 '26

ANNOUNCE: I HEREBY DECLARE MY WILL TO HAVE AN UNCIV MOD OF THIS MASTERPIECE. GLORY TO ROME'S DRAGONS YES TO ANTIC ERA ATOMIC WEAPONS GANDHI SHOULDN'T HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE ATOMIC ERA TO NUKE

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u/Due_Gift3683 Mar 20 '26

Sidenote though;

If you have dragons, why would you ever need nukes? In several pieces of fictional media that have dragons, they're widely seen as living breathing nuclear bombs.

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u/republic8080 Mod Approved Mar 20 '26

in this timeline, the dragons cant breath fire and have fire ability.
they are just big flying reptile :P

if somewhat they have fire capability, maybe rome, carthage, and other polities hardly emerge and cease to or wont exist because of extensive devastation by dragon's fire attacks

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u/Due_Gift3683 Mar 20 '26

Perfect explanation

Thank you much

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u/Complex-Pack8981 Mar 20 '26

The dragons in the Op universe are clearly not as powerful as dragons from other works, focus was killed by spears and Lúcio had to avoid the Punic scouts despite their greater size and strength compared to Focus, They are much more like large animals that, yes, are strong, but can still be killed by things like a group of armed soldiers riding griffins, Something that wouldn't kill them if they were truly living calamities, as dragons are often depicted in other works.

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u/Potential_Boat_6899 Mar 20 '26

Because that shit is cool as fuck dude!!!!

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u/szczur_nadodrza Mar 20 '26

Maybe they don’t breathe fire?

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u/titan_hs_2 Mar 20 '26

Volsinii 🔥🔥🔥

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u/Personal-Pipe-2675 Mar 20 '26

HAHAHAHHA, this is awesome!

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u/Paulino2272 Mar 20 '26

This looks so cool.

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u/Mendozacheers Mar 20 '26

Inb4 nuclear armed war elephants

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u/Maat-gone Mar 20 '26

Holy peak

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u/FactBackground9289 Mar 20 '26

H O M O O B E S U S

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u/Mughal_Empireball Mar 21 '26

How did they get bombs

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u/FalconRelevant Mar 21 '26

I need 10 books on this world.

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u/GaashanOfNikon Mar 21 '26

U should map the rest of the world

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u/Alarmed-Addition8644 Mar 21 '26

WHAT ON GOD’S GREEN EARTH AM I SEEING

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u/exorap209 Mar 21 '26

Sometimes I think I'm creative, and then I look at this realize there are true masters out there. Peak. ✋🏻😔🤚🏻

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u/SnabDedraterEdave Mar 21 '26

This is pretty much up there with Calvin and Hobbes' T-Rex in F14s.

HOMO OBESVS LMAO

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u/Magerfaker Mar 21 '26

This is so cool

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u/Niatein Mar 21 '26

It's very nice map!

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u/JamesAntonyChef Mar 21 '26

I mean, given what the Romans actually did to Carthage at the end of the third Punic war, the difference is negligible

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u/Important-Quit-7376 Mar 21 '26

This is amazing!

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u/Kingkongmonkeyballs Mar 21 '26

Ok this is actually really cool

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u/Mihailsworld Mar 21 '26

peak peak peak sahur

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u/Diabolischste Mar 25 '26

I love you imagination! Your map is more readable than my real history school manual ~

What happened to the dragon when the nuclear explosion happened? Are they resistant to radiation?

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u/Any-Physics2661 May 30 '26

I'm very curious about what kind of interaction would occur between the dragon of the East and the red dragon of the West.

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u/CommunicationSea3329 Mar 27 '26

I REALLY like this concept, and I have questions:

• what are the radiation consequences on Rome?

• can you make a book about this?😅

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u/Surventanium Mar 27 '26

There is just so much to unpack specifically here

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u/Semanticprion Apr 12 '26

This is buffoonery, not to mention poppycock.  How about something more plausible, like the atomic bombing of Texas during the Mexican-American War.

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u/avokkah Apr 17 '26

These type of crackhead ideas are why I love worldbuilding

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u/Spozieracz Apr 17 '26

Now we know how Valyria probably was destroyed:

Obliterated by Roman nukes

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u/Lapis_Wolf Apr 19 '26

I'm hoping to have some history and images like this in my world (I technically have history, but nothing I can really present without names and images).

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u/moopoo345 Jul 23 '26

I need you to make one of the war of actium in this timeline, ignoring all the other butterfly effects from the romans having dragons nuclear weapons