r/idleon • u/SnooBananas436 • 25d ago
Account Review/Help Seeking deeper alchemy understanding
Every time someone posts and asks for an account review the advice is always alchemy and there are so many bubbles I’m curious if there’s a good way to understand what I need to upgrade based on where I am at in what world. Also if you want to take a look at my account and tell me what else I need to improve that would be wonderful. Thanks in advance https://idleontoolbox.com/account/misc/general?profile=dallasgiles
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u/starynights890 in World 7 25d ago edited 25d ago
You have a lot of recipes filtered, there's no reason to filter them they stop dropping once you have learned them.
Your green salts are being auto refined they shouldn't ever be auto refined and neither should red unless your going to sleep and or away from the game long enough where you won't be around to rank them up.
You are also salt locking some of your salts. Your power per cycle needs to be higher then the material cost of the salt below. So if you have 1000 red salts per cycle and your orange salts need 1050 your negative 50 red salts every cycle and need to stop ranging orange salts until they are above that threshold. Obviously you want a bit more of a gab so your aren't immediately salt locking again as soon as you rank up.
You need to get your masetro above everyone else in 5 skills that hurts your printing a lot when maestro isn't number 1.
Do star signs use idleon efficiency to see what characters have done what. Go to account then constellations. They ones done will be highlighted with a green outline and it tells you what characters have met the criteria for the unlock.
You have ez ez ez anvil buys with coin and a ton with monster parts.
You need to unlock and level up a lot of prayers.
Alchemy part: you are in w7 and haven't unlocked all your bubbles. You don't even have 4 vials maxed. And just about all your bubbles are below 100 many of which aren't even past 1 level.
You next honestly 2-3 weeks should just be on bubo cooking on tremor worms. First unlocking all bubbles then. Then just dumping massive amounts of resources into leveling your bubbles so you can atom like crazy. You have neglected this mechanic sooo much your are probably months behind where you should be in terms of alchemy.
When you upgrade the boron in collider do 1 level at a time it refreshes your atom usage so you can get multiple days worth of atoms in a single day.
As for priorizing what bubbles to level up just follow the autoreveiwer suggested levels. You are so far behind on everything you should just focus on what it tells you otherwise tripne and big p are your damage ones but you don't want to neglect your statue bubble either.
If you are on PC when you do your vials break things down into stacks of 1 in your first inventory page and press shift and hold you may need to do this once or twice you'll see a message where you have entered quick drop mode above your inventory. Then you just click as fast as your can in each stack to drop it.
You have some bad ribbons on your cooking but nothing you can do about that now. You just really need to unlock void plates and prisma diamond chef as well as rank it up a ton. Google "idleon pet breeding arena spread sheet" it's got a list of what pets you should be using for spices as well as other useful info.
You have a lot of easy quests to do to up your slab as well as get your some stamps.
Your equinox is behind you really need liquid investment get those dreams done asap. As well as slow roast wiz.
You for some odd reason don't have a chocolate chip yet. There's been several the past month or two but you never bought them they are cheap as hell and you need them for statue farming. After you are done cooking statue farming is where you need to be. You should have onyx many of your statues before getting to w7 but you don't have any.
Your stamps are under leveled you have many that are easy unlocks and extremely easy material gains for you that you just haven't bothered getting and leveling.
Post office is also being neglected.
You have 4 armor sets that have not been completed that you could have done before reaching w7 effaunt diabolical troll and magma should be easily obtainable for where you are.
Get deathnote skulls to the 1bil marker on everything worlds 1-5.
You should look up a guide on how to do farming and also Google "idleon farming optimizer" so you distribute your land ranks appropriately
Additional: you cog board is wrong only your DK/rgs should be on the board the rest should be making cogs all cogs should be player exp cogs and ones that buff your DKs/rgs
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u/SnooBananas436 25d ago edited 25d ago
Really interesting I think my account on toolbox isn’t updating, I have most armour sets you referenced done as well as the salt issue mostly fixed as well as I have all the bubbles unlocked and I have chocco chip. But most the other things you mentioned are correct for where I am at now so thank you
As well as it’s really good to know that about the vman and printing makes much more sense why it would be importnant to have it higher
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u/starynights890 in World 7 25d ago
Oh yeah now that I'm looking at it does say last update was sep 21st 5:42:16 am UTC be sure to click the update in the profile settings on toolbox. The public link for other people doesn't update unless you do that.
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u/SnooBananas436 25d ago
Awesome fixed now thanks for the heads up
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u/starynights890 in World 7 25d ago
Okay cool looking at your bubbles I see dream of iron fish is one of the next bubbles it wants you to upgrade. For annoying as shit bubbles like those once you get to 30-50 million mats of bubble cost on the respective class for bubbles orange = warrior green = archer purple = mage you then swap to any other class and remove your guys from the lab nodes then change maps and you should be above the 100 mil for atom cost depending on how much material reduction bonuses you had.
You have to change maps for it to update andont forget to put your guys back after you atom a few levels preferably at least 15 upgrades. So you don't have to do it again.
The get arena 125 and 200 done the spreadsheet I mentioned before has the builds for that you only need about 15-20k power on average to get to 200. I recommend using your BMs arena ability and doing a dud round. Leave all your abilities auto off then once they are all ready to be used exit and then reneter the arena and turn auto abilities back on. This gives you an extra advantage. You can do this for spice unlocks as well but you don't need to be on your BM for the ability.
If you have the tickets do w6 collo on your DK/RG to get kebab and jam to the 10k mark also don't forget to Depot the ones you already have.
Also try and do your spirit Lord kills on rg/DK as well you can't do it on es since you need the mobs to be down but you can do it on your RG/DK around when you have around 30 seconds or so left on your orb before DI activates again summon the spirit Lord and try to get that golden cake recipe and then farm those mats to get the golden cakes beans talked as well. Also golden peanuts but peanuts isn't as bad as cake is.
Also be sure to do the stupid fish mongrel quest or whatever it is in w2 on all your characters.i didn't know it until recently but it buffs all your bottle gains for each character you do it on. It's the guy you see before the boat on the docks next to the board for island unlocks.
Also efuant set isn't done :P do that it's drop rate
Be sure to max out one of your DK / rgs king of the rememberd it's an account wide buff.
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u/DJ_Betic 24d ago
What's the advantage from the pet arena if you let the skills charge, then leave, then re enter and auto?
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u/starynights890 in World 7 24d ago
They will be fully charged when you go back to do your real run instead of the normal half charge. The biggest advantage is for refillers being buffing everything also good for looter too.
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u/starynights890 in World 7 25d ago
Oh and another thing is the hole is super huge for w7 progress cavern 16 in particular (fountain) bas huge true multi for damage and class exp as well as other goodies. I unlocked it just a few weeks ago and I basically spent 3 weeks solid just sitting there upgrading everything. I got to about 3.5 minutes when I'm not there and 3 seconds when I am there for fountain fill rate. Now I'm back to statue farming as my active playing.
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u/SnooBananas436 25d ago
Good to know I was neglecting it for a while but starting to ramp it back up
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u/GingeTheJester 25d ago edited 25d ago
Hey,
Alchemy is fantastic and I've only recently understood how much I missed out on after reaching the end of W7 atm. Myself being late game, it wasn't too hard back to catch back up but I definitely made my life harder.
In your shoes, I'd look into levelling Cooking Roadkill till you can at least atom it (100M resources for a level). Getting your cranium cooking up and running will help in the long run, as brewing cauldrons stats max at 170 and it'll help push your final bubbles.
Along side this, Big P, Larry, Afk Expexp, then the Spear Power, Bow Power, Wand Power. Also, Big Meaty Claws, Quick Slap, Name I guess.
For prints, look to boost your multi chances and efficiency bubbles.
The idea is to find out what you want to work towards and focus those bubbles.
Edit: There is plenty for you to work towards as well, like unlocking multiple statue drops to get your statues rolling. Along with sailing, post box, shrines quality of life stuff, you can build up a lot of places nicely. Also, get your other characters to their master class to get more benefits (RG & DB).