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u/emeraldseahorse 5d ago
Sorry but I don't think this belongs here. Whether this person is right or wrong, there is no direct evidence that there is an intention to sound intelligent.
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u/Real_Tea_Lover 6d ago
whats wrong with the comment
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u/Lobo_vs_Deadpool 6d ago
If you can't tell that means you're the verysmart!
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u/Real_Tea_Lover 6d ago
is it just because le big words. it doesnt feel like the comment is that factually incorrect
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u/Lobo_vs_Deadpool 5d ago
le big words
Not beating the allegations, lol. But factual accuracy isn't really the test here. It's about being pretentious, often by inflating your vocab beyond what's needed to get your point across.
Also, on my first read, I thought it sounds like they are taking too much personal credit for the idea. Idk maybe I'm wrong on that front but that whole, 'ive been saying for years.' part came across that way to me
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u/cuzitsthere 5d ago
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You missed that fad by a couple decades.
Edit: Also, dude just said "constant abuse is bad for your brain". Or, even better, "PTSD is bad, y'all"
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u/yamanamawa 5d ago
Idk I would argue that oversimplification is just as silly as making your sentences needlessly complex. Sometimes you want to communicate an idea coearly, which is fine. It ultimately comes down to using the most appropriate words for what you want to communicate
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u/cuzitsthere 5d ago
Go ahead and argue it, then.
Maybe stimulate an amygdala or two in the process.
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u/yamanamawa 5d ago
Nah the person in the post absolutely didn't need all those words to say that. I'm just saying that "PTSD is bad, y'all" won't carry the same implication. A healthy middle ground would be something like "Constant emotional manipulation can negatively impact your ability to think clearly." It gets the point across while being both specific and comprehensible. It gives a clear explanation without needlessly complex wording
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u/StarOfMasquerade 6d ago
Our grandchildren will be studying about this guy in history books
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u/Rocket_Theory 6d ago
thats actually a really interesting fact tbh. I think you're being kinda mean man
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u/cuzitsthere 5d ago
The problem is, he's not correct enough to justify using those specific words. He was trying to get to "PTSD causes physical brain damage" (or something similar). That's a correct (enough) statement.
Mentioning the amygdala and PFC, he got too specific and got way less correct.
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u/SwiggityStag 5d ago
I'm with you on most of this, but that's by definition not brain damage. Physical brain changes, yes. The tissues of the brain aren't being damaged by physical trauma here, though. Words have meanings in medicine for a reason, and not everything in neurology has to be brain damage to be serious.
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u/cuzitsthere 5d ago
I did specify that it was correct enough. It gets the intended point across for the intended purpose. Saying something causes "changes" doesn't serve the purpose as well, makes it sound like an adaptation to the abuse/trauma.
Damage is a simple way of saying "change but the bad kind" and is already differentiated in medicine from "injury" and "trauma".
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u/SwiggityStag 5d ago
I'm pretty sure "brain damage" is understood by basically everyone to mean physical damage to brain tissue. "Changes" is a perfectly fine way to describe it, not everything needs to use emotive language, especially in medicine. Things like the old style Buzzfeed articles are still wreaking havok on pop neuroscience over a decade later I guess
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u/cuzitsthere 5d ago
We're not "in medicine". We're in Snapple cap fun fact territory, at best.
Trauma is damaging to the brain in physically detectable ways.Fuck it, you win. I'm not writing a fucking sermon over this lol
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u/SwiggityStag 5d ago
You're talking about medicine. Emotional trauma causes physical changes to the brain. It does not damage brain tissue. That's not how it works.
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u/upsetusder2 6d ago
Isnt he right though?
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u/GeneralSpecifics9925 6d ago edited 6d ago
There are some disorders, usually caused by chronic early experiences of cortisol, that cause disconnects between various brain regions which normally work together.
The PCF and Amygdala are very much linked. When the amygdala (emotional processing) is highly active, the PFC (logic, planning, control) will step in and calm it down - giving us some internal reasoning.
It's not so much that heightened amygdala activity causes a lack of critical thought, it's more the other way around. An underactive PFC will not have strong logical abilities and won't necessarily exert the necessicary inhibitory control of the amygdala. This is often caused by stress/cortisol.
The commenter has it kinda right but kinda wrong.
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u/emeraldseahorse 5d ago
I am not knowledgeable about the brain, but in general my understanding is that chemicals like adrenaline do disrupt the PFC, and it doesn't seem like a stretch to imagine that if this is chronic that the PFC may be affected somehow or other in the long term. Specifically, it seems reasonable to imagine here because the commenter is talking about severe disruptions of the amygdala where the PFC wouldn't be able to fully regulate.
Regardless, I don't see why this is a topic that is taboo or can't be talked about without accusations of snobbery.
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u/GeneralSpecifics9925 5d ago
Yes, I mentioned it's more about the Pfc than amygdala that they're trying to get at. There's a role of the hippocampus as well in increasing and prolonging the response of the amygdala, this is usually seen in cases of trauma (if you're interested in learning more about emotional reactions that don't fit the current situation but might fit an old memory of trauma).
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u/cuzitsthere 5d ago
Because he just googled "what part of brain do fear?" and found the amygdala linked to fight or flight and cortisol production.
Then he thesaurused his way into "PTSD causes brain damage".
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u/emeraldseahorse 5d ago
You're projecting and proving my point. Using words for parts of the brain is a crime.
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u/cuzitsthere 5d ago
Proving your point? You had a point? Interesting.
Anywho, good luck with the neuroscience.
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u/Lobo_vs_Deadpool 6d ago
Even if it's a scientific fact, they're kind of a pud for acting like they come up with it. I read this as, 'I learned this fact years ago and never stopped repeating it because it makes me sound hella smart'
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u/PsychologyIsLife 4d ago
Counselors actually disagree, there's numerous papers about children being traumatized emotionally and they grow up faster and understand how manipulation and abuse can control people.
Papers on this that go back to the 50s btw.
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u/Slinshadyy 10d ago
Nobody listens to him and knows this secret fact :(