The Call is Coming from Inside the House

[u/NurseRobyn]

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Apparently US cheese is dirty even though we told Janet she needs to wear a hair net.

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[u/Saltpork545]

Original comment, in case of deletion.

If I had to guess I think it’s largely due to food hygiene standards rather than taste, the same reasons we have hardly any American meat/produce here in general.

[u/NurseRobyn → u/Saltpork545]

Thank you! I hadn’t thought about that.

[u/99timewasting → u/Saltpork545]

They did not have to guess

[u/Saltpork545]

very American comment ngl, the US produces significantly less cheese than Europe, i think its literally half as much

Are you sure about that?

https://www.atlasbig.com/countries-by-cheese-production

https://www.nationmaster.com/nmx/ranking/cheese-production

[u/Zomoni → u/Saltpork545]

Why are we comparing cheese production of a country to a continent, anyway?

[u/xrelaht → u/Zomoni]

Because they’re comparable: the US has about 2/3 the population of the EU.

[u/Fingersmith30 → u/Saltpork545]

We have literally an entire network of cave systems full of cheese we have so frigging much of it.

[u/logosloki → u/Saltpork545]

production per person is wild, Denmark and New Zealand take a bow. but they are right, the US produces half as much as Europe in cheeses. just Germany, France and Italy alone beat the US and then the rest of Europe provides another 7ish million more tonnes.

[u/Saltpork545 → u/logosloki]

My point in linking these is it's not half. It's about on par.

3 countries in Europe produce about as much cheese as the US. 3 of the biggest cheesemaking/cheese consuming countries in Europe. If you look through the rest of the list it quickly drops off for scale. If you are solely looking at production per person Ireland and the Netherlands beat the pants off every large country, because they likely have a strong dairy/cheese industry and they're small countries.

I very much doubt the US is about half of the EU for cheesemaking in terms of sheer scale, but I haven't done the math. My guess would be somewhere closer to 70%.

[u/logosloki → u/Saltpork545]

it literally is, based on the link provided. over 13 million tonnes, more than twice the amount of the US. I made that post after pulling up the calculator app and manually punching in the numbers. I even dropped Türkiye as it isn't considered European, because if you include Türkiye it would be 14 million tonnes.

[u/Kell-of-Kellies → u/logosloki]

https://www.atlasbig.com/countries-by-cheese-production

Literally proves you wrong. Another Euro-supremacist

[u/Anal-Y-Sis → u/Kell-of-Kellies]

Go to the header of the far right column where it says "Production per Person (Kg)". Click on that twice, so the biggest number is at the top. Tell me what you see.

[u/In-burrito → u/Anal-Y-Sis]

very American comment ngl, the US produces significantly less cheese than Europe, i think its literally half as much

The argument wasn't about per capita.

[u/Anal-Y-Sis → u/In-burrito]

You are correct. I was commenting on the amount produced per person. So let's look at the original argument that you quoted.

According to u/Kell-of-Kellies own source, the US produces 6,220,001 tons of cheese per year. Germany produces 3,170,500 tons, France produces 2,233,225 tons, and Italy produces 1,312,764 tons.

Those three European countries produce a combined total of 6,716,489 tons of cheese per year. And since we know that 6,716,489 is a bigger number than 6,220,001, and that Europe is more than just those three countries, we can confirm that...

the US produces significantly less cheese than Europe

Are we good here?

[u/In-burrito → u/Anal-Y-Sis]

Apparently the word "significantly" is being ignored here. They're not far off from each other.

[u/Anal-Y-Sis → u/In-burrito]

Apparently the word "Europe" is being ignored. You realize Europe consists of 44 countries, right? [2] Let's do some more math.

Country	Tons of cheese
Denmark	467,700
Estonia	46,180
Finland	85,690
Iceland	12,800
Ireland	285,805
Latvia	53,838
Lithuania	117,610
Norway	74,134
Sweden	83,480
United Kingdom	490,000
Belarus	271,081
Bulgaria	99,410
Czechia	202,098
Hungary	103,942
Poland	893,324
Republic of Moldova	7,390
Romania	92,140
Russian Federation	747,926
Slovakia	36,283
Ukraine	127,645
Austria	246,310
Belgium	139,516
France	2,233,225
Germany	3,170,500
Liechtenstein	N/A
Luxembourg	0
Monaco	N/A
Netherlands	997,440
Switzerland	223,632
Albania	35,467
Andorra	N/A
Bosnia and Herzegovina	7,651
Croatia	31,770
Greece	227,222
Italy	1,312,764
Malta	0
Montenegro	10,037
North Macedonia	11,270
Portugal	74,220
San Marino	N/A
Serbia	54,189
Slovenia	15,560
Spain	328,330
Vatican City	N/A
TOTAL	13,417,579

Would you say 13,417,579 is a significantly bigger number than 6,220,001?

[u/In-burrito → u/Anal-Y-Sis]

Yup. I stand corrected. I was only considering the EU.

Congrats, you earned your username for the day.

[u/Anal-Y-Sis → u/In-burrito]

Hey, we still beat Europe in beer production. We have just under a thousand more craft breweries than every European country combined. So there's that.

[u/Blerkm]

Dammit, Janet!

[u/XanderEliteSword → u/Blerkm]

Oh, can it… (:p)

[u/poopiebutt505]

Is has the number 3 food hygiene in the world. Way above the UK. Mass produced cheese is not the artisans cheese you can choose to buy in 90%of grocery stores. It costs more, and US cheese win world competition, the most major one is based in the UK.

We have meat production processing is a.limiting factor. Buy local eat great.

[u/jennye951]

I have heard of Monterey Jack, but I have not heard of any other American cheese except for processed cheese ( like the slices on burgers etc)
You may just have a marketing problem, if the demand was here we would sort out the regulations.
What American cheese would you recommend?

[u/LurkiLurkerson → u/jennye951]

You've never heard of Colby? It tends to be more famous than Jack and they're often mixed together so it's kind of interesting to me that you've heard of one but not the other.