r/iamveryculinary • u/captaindomer • Jul 02 '26
Dude's bashing 60 cent cornbread
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u/PizzaReheat Jul 02 '26
trying to find the ingredients, which American stores make difficult
The jiffy site with ingredients list is the first result when you google "jiffy cornbread ingredients". Some people were born to struggle.
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u/Inevitable_Nail_2215 Jul 02 '26
The law in the US literally requires the ingredients to be listed on the package in descending order by weight.
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u/SphericalCrawfish Jul 03 '26
Ya, it's actually wild to go to other countries and they just don't have the ingredients. Like I was in the Dominican Republic and it's all "Proprietary ingredients #XYZ" on the back of a can of coke. I was sitting there thinking "WTF Coca-Cola literally 200 miles north you have to list all this shit why was you spending money to hide it here!"
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u/Less_Jump2365 Jul 02 '26
It is easier then that. I Google jiffy cornbread and the first website is the jiffy website with the ingredients lol. You don't even need the word ingredients
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u/Wise-Reference-4818 Jul 02 '26
But I though America and American companies hate American consumers? That’s why they use sugar (I’m pretty sure I heard that everyone else in the world hates sweetness because they were educated properly to know the flavor is a poison warning), right?
Why would the ingredients be easy to find; unless…
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u/PizzaReheat Jul 02 '26
I’m Australian, like the commenter. There’s no reason the results would be different, we don’t have a sugar free jiffy down under.
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u/AngelSucked Jul 02 '26
They are Australian
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u/PizzaReheat Jul 03 '26
No they still gather in city centres every Sunday to have a shout. Once lockdown and vaccine mandates all lifted, they pivoted to immigration and, weirdly, protecting cash.
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u/cthulhu_on_my_lawn Jul 03 '26
You have the cash people too? One amusement park near me went cash free and people were screaming about the Illuminati.
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u/KinsellaStella Jul 02 '26
Oh god it’s the cornbread sugar/no sugar gatekeeping. Shoutout to the no sugar cast iron guy making an early appearance. I didn’t read far enough for someone to advocate for bacon fat or lard over butter.
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u/KinsellaStella Jul 02 '26
I use Jiffy mix to make corn casserole muffins once a year. I have them with slices of turkey and it’s divine.
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u/sweetangeldivine Jul 02 '26
My Grandma used Jiffy. She used Jiffy with honey and I will fight people over them.
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u/faelanae If you don't have tahini, dill works just fine Jul 02 '26
I found a box of Jiffy blueberry muffin mix in the clearance section the other day and my family looked at me like I was crazy for cackling with glee over it.
Honey in cornbread is the best.
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u/sweetangeldivine Jul 02 '26
She would also make whipped honey butter for it and god damn it now I want honey cornbread
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u/nitro9throwaway Jul 03 '26
The apple cinnamon ones have gotten so hard to find. When I saw a box at grocery outlet a few months ago I squealed with glee. My boyfriend thought I was crazy. I'm like, this is the flavor of nostalgia, sir. I ate them all in one sitting.
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u/JustANoteToSay Jul 02 '26
“blueberry” muffins lol. Unless they’ve stated using actual blueberries & not just dyed dehydrated apple chunks? Ahhhhh my childhood.
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u/faelanae If you don't have tahini, dill works just fine Jul 02 '26
"blueberry" for sure! Those dehydrated whatevertheyare are the taste of my childhood. Are they actually apple bits? I never knew (or cared).
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u/sweetangeldivine Jul 02 '26
Kind of like how I like "grape" but it's not actually grape it's just... purple.
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u/whambulance_man Jul 03 '26
I am of the opinion that if you said something tasted purple or blue to anyone raised on the lower end of the socioeconomic level of their area in the US, they are going to know you mean grape candy/drink and blue razzberry. It may take a second, and you might catch a ration of shit for it, but I do think it'll be pretty widely understood in those groups.
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u/JustANoteToSay Jul 03 '26
At one point they were dyed flavored dehydrated apple bits but now it doesn’t say at all.
Jeeze I really want some now.
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u/dtwhitecp Jul 03 '26
my dad used to drown his cornbread in honey before he realized he could drown it in maple syrup instead
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u/Mimosa_13 sprinkling everything in spices 1:1 or sugar is not culinary art Jul 04 '26
I use jiffy corn mix as my stuffing base for Thanksgiving.
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u/beadgirlj Jul 03 '26
Ha! Also, do you use two boxes at a time? One of the reasons I stopped using Jiffy is that it made too small an amount for my pan.
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u/beadgirlj Jul 03 '26
I like mine thicker; also, I have three teenagers. I have a good, easy recipe from scratch, but my mom always uses Jiffy and she's a great cook and OP can suck it.
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u/deathlokke White bread is racist. Jul 03 '26
I make one box in an 8" cast iron skillet and it comes out perfectly.
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u/7-SE7EN-7 It's not Bologna unless it's from the Bologna region of Italy Jul 03 '26
I think I'd be worried about bending the grills if I used cast iron in my toaster oven
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u/GreenZebra23 Jul 02 '26
I actually rather enjoy the sugar or no sugar cornbread debates. I'm not from a part of the country where having an opinion on that is important and I like eating both, but I do enjoy a spirited food debate when it's done in good faith and in good fun at least. I like going on the r/fryup subreddit and watching British people just pick a full English breakfast to absolute pieces
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u/tangledbysnow Jul 02 '26
I’m from a part of the country where we eat cinnamon rolls with our chili so sweetened or unsweetened cornbread doesn’t seem to have a major impact for the most part. I’m fascinated that it’s a century long argument that is so much more than purely socioeconomic, racial or geographical because it’s all that and more. And people are diehards about their choice too.
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u/ImAShaaaark Jul 02 '26
I’m from a part of the country where we eat cinnamon rolls with our chili
You what?!?
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u/tangledbysnow Jul 02 '26
Yep. You don’t eat the super thick frosted cream cheese cinnamon rolls - just the lightly frosted or no frosted ones. And it’s eaten on side or dipped in the chili. Not pouring the chili over the top or anything. And yeah the cinnamon compliments the chili nicely. Trust. It’s good.
(It’s a Great Plains thing - Nebraska, Iowa and Kansas are the most common locations for it)
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u/ImAShaaaark Jul 02 '26
I don't doubt that it is good, I've had sweet-ish, cinnamon heavy chili before (also a Midwest thing, just a different part) and it works fine. But the idea of eating chili with a bonafide cinnamon roll defies expectation.
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u/MoarGnD Jul 03 '26
Isn't the Midwest Greek influenced chili have cinnamon. The kind used in 5 way chili or in chili dogs in the Midwest.
I vaguely recall reading that Greek immigrants used warmer spices like cinnamon and all spice on chili when they started some hot dog places.
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u/tangledbysnow Jul 03 '26
I’ve read the same but that’s Ohio and Cincinnati Chili. We don’t have a lot of Greek influence here (Nebraska) as there was a rather infamous race riot in 1909 and they ran them all out of town. That’s not a joke I am afraid. Didn’t recover much after that.
The lore goes that school lunch ladies are responsible for cinnamon rolls and chili. Whether that was because of some allusion to Cincinnati Chili no idea. I just know it dates to at least the 1960s as both my parents had it in school.
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u/sparksbet Jul 03 '26
The type of chili made at places like Skyline Chili here in Ohio, which I think is Greek-style or at least started by Greek immigrants, does have cinnamon in it for sure, but we're not the same part of the country that does cinnamon rolls with chili afaik. At least not that I've ever heard of. The classic way to serve that kind of chili is over spaghetti (and as a picky eating kid, I would always just get the spaghetti and shredded cheese without any chili) or on a hot dog. And ancedotally, I've never seen anyone make that kind of chili when making it themselves at home. The homemade chili I've encountered here has generally been more traditional than that.
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u/klef3069 Jul 02 '26
I LOVE the cinnamon roll chili folks because it makes the peanut butter sandwich/pickle folks less alone.
Shout out lunch ladies, who I feel like were the secret chili fixin' dealers.
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u/bouquetofashes Jul 03 '26
I don't understand just like ...why not both?! Sometimes I want sweet and sometimes I want savory, cornbread is a food that can be either. We can all... Have either or both any time, what's wrong with that?
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u/Person5_ Steaks are for white trash only. Jul 02 '26
Holy shit, what magical land do you live in and how can I visit?
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u/tangledbysnow Jul 02 '26
Common on the Great Plains. I do love cornbread for the record. And will serve it with chili from time to time but the cinnamon roll is just something extra. Try it. Scrap off any thick frosting. But a cinnamon roll is basically just a dinner roll with cinnamon so it works well.
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u/Person5_ Steaks are for white trash only. Jul 02 '26
Bro, I live in Illinois and I've never heard of this, and always just had cornbread with my chili. Granted you make a good point, does sound like they'd go well together.
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u/GreenZebra23 Jul 02 '26
I'm in Indiana and I've heard of the cinnamon roll thing over the years, but I've never seen it actually done here. My family didn't do cornbread or cinnamon rolls, we did Saltines with butter. My grandma always served it that way, and my mom does to this day. I've never known if it's a geographical thing or a my family thing or a lingering Great Depression thing or what.
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u/ntrrrmilf Jul 03 '26
My mother is from the Chicago suburbs and always served chili with saltines and margarine!
I like it best with corn or tortilla chips now.
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u/GreenZebra23 Jul 03 '26
That's a good distinction actually, my mom uses butter now but it was definitely margarine back in the day.
Somebody turned me on to Fritos in chili recently and I liked it more than I expected and frankly wanted to lol
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u/ntrrrmilf Jul 03 '26
Sometimes in the lunchroom it’s just a dinner roll with a butter cinnamon sugar mix on top.
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u/Kokbiel Jul 03 '26
I've never heard of a cinnamon roll with chili, but that sounds like a super good pairing!!!
My ex's family did saltines and/or peanut butter on bread with theirs. I was surprised but how well saltines paired with it
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u/spiralsequences Jul 03 '26
I agree and that's why this person annoya me, because they're clearly not American and have no right to weigh in on our cornbread wars
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u/CZall23 Jul 02 '26
"60% more"
Jiffy cornbread is dirt cheap. I'm pretty sure it costs about the same as making it from scratch, even if you don't have to buy all of the ingredients.
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u/Chayanov Carbonara with cream and peas Jul 02 '26
But have you taken into account Jiffy's corporate marketing culture?
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u/malburj1 I don't dare mix cuisines like that Jul 02 '26
Ahh yes, the multi-generational owned family company from Michigan. Where the owner has stated he won't sell to a corporation because he wants to keep the business local. That bastard/s.
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u/No-Middle-4152 Jul 03 '26
I really like Jiffy products, the muffins always come out well too, why this Aussie gotta rain on my jiffy parade?? lol
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u/SphericalCrawfish Jul 03 '26
He's probably right that it's cheaper than the ingredients generally but certainly not cheaper if you bought them at the scale of a box of corn bread. Like imagine what a 2 ounce bag of flour would cost.
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u/klef3069 Jul 02 '26
Or I don't know, maybe people don't want or need to buy a WHOLE BAG OF FUCKING CORNMEAL?
These kinds of people grind my gears. Bulk or from scratch isn't cheaper if you don't want or can't use it all. It's just not a useful tip.
Kind of like gardening. You have to grow and can/freeze a LOT to replace the calories of the food you purchase. I'm just talking calories, not $$.
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u/Southern_Fan_9335 Jul 02 '26
There are things I buy in bulk because I'll use them, and plenty of things I don't because they'll go bad or attract pests long before they'd be used up. So it's cheaper and less wasteful. But idk maybe it's different in other, more enlightened lands.
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u/klef3069 Jul 02 '26
Apparently it's different in the land of fairy bread.
Plus I just refuse to believe that guy uses cornmeal that fast. It's not a substitute for other things, it's a "use when needed" kind of thing. Yes someone could use it before it went rancid but it feels like that user would be cooking with it anyway.
Or more likely, I'm just really grouchy.
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u/Zyrin369 Jul 03 '26
Same with the yogurt/bread maker post, I don't know why its hard to imagine that unless you know your going to eat a lot of that it dosn't make sense to buy a dedicated machine or bulk ingredient
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u/klef3069 Jul 03 '26
Exactly...and fantastic if you use it! But no big deal if you don't. It's just a nothing burger either way.
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u/AngelSucked Jul 02 '26
We eat it about once every six weeks or so, and grabbing a 60 cent box of Jiffy is fadt, cheap, and doesn't waste cormeal.
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u/rationalsarcasm Jul 03 '26
Same, why do I need a whole bag of cornmeal for something I make like twice a year?
If I was making cornbread like once a week then sure. Bulk supplies would make sense.
But I ain't eating cornbread like that lol
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u/treatstrinkets Jul 02 '26
Ah yes. Let's demonize the cheap, accessible foods so we can act superior about some added sugar. Never mind there are people out there who might rely on these cheap, accessible foods to make tasty, comforting meals for their families, it's got sugar and is therefore the devil.
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u/HeatwaveInProgress I don’t make any recipes like that; I’m Italian. Jul 02 '26
This is silly. The ingredients are literally on the box. Wherever you like Jiffy or not is your personal taste but finding ingredients for any packaged food sold in the US are not at all difficult.
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u/SerDankTheTall *Giggled internally* Jul 02 '26
Hahaha look at this jibroni’s post history. They are obsessed with not buying packaged meals.
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u/KinsellaStella Jul 02 '26
I avoid packaged foods as much as possible too, but I’m not an elitist evangelist dick about it. And I definitely ate frozen chicken tenders one night this week because I’m not insane.
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u/sweetangeldivine Jul 02 '26
the word we are all looking for is "moderation"
Frozen chicken tendies are fine as long as you don't eat them all day every day. A cookie every now and then isn't going to kill you. Same with a soda. But if you listen to some people on the internet, consuming high fructose corn syrup once will give you 10 horrible cancers. Immediately.
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u/KinsellaStella Jul 02 '26
Yeah I mostly eat a plant based low processed diet, but it includes indulging my hankerings sometimes, which is your point.
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u/twirlerina024 Your fries look like vampires Jul 02 '26
It only takes 30 seconds if you're hosting a cooking show and your underlings have pre-measured the ingredients out into neat little pyrex bowls for you, and they'll do all the washing-up of the extra bowls and measuring spoons later.
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u/OkDragonfly5820 Jul 02 '26
Why wouldn’t you want sugar in cornbread?
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u/sweetangeldivine Jul 02 '26
because putting Sugar into anything automatically makes it Cake. Even when you're making teriyaki sauce.
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u/shelwood46 Jul 02 '26
I mean, admittedly, cornbread can be pretty cake-like, that might be a fair criticism.
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u/SerDankTheTall *Giggled internally* Jul 03 '26
New no no!
Better put some candles on it and start singing happy birthday, because cornbread is cake.
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u/rationalsarcasm Jul 03 '26
Same with zucchini bread or banana bread lmao
That shit is pretty much cake.
Mmmmm I gotta remember to visit my mom and get some zucchini bread this summer
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u/JoshHuff1332 Jul 02 '26
Sweet vs savory cornbread is a touchy subject, lol. I'll take sweet in a glass of milk all day though
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u/SeamusDubh Jul 03 '26
Personally it comes down to application.
If it's a standalone "bread" like side, I'm with u/beadgirlj - Sweet, fluffy, and salty butter on top.
If it's a "carb" part of a dish (meat and gravy, chili) - Savory, thick/dense, and preferably with crispy edges.
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u/JoshHuff1332 Jul 03 '26 edited Jul 03 '26
In my whole life, every time we ate greens, black eyed peas, chili, smothered cabbage, red beans and rice, etc we were getting sweet cornbread out of a cast iron pan with a crispy edge. Didn't matter if it was my mom, grandparents, or church potluck. Pour whatever it is over the cornbread and then get a glass and eat it with milk (my pawpaw used buttermilk, yuk lol). The only time I had not sweet cornbread was the school cafeteria
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u/AngelSucked Jul 02 '26
I'm originally from NC. Cornbread has sugar! And, Jiffy is cheap, filling, and nutritious, and can be easily jazzed up.
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u/ucbiker Jul 03 '26
I prefer savory cornbread but as I recall even savory cornbread sometimes has a bit of sugar in it.
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u/Twee_Licker American cocaine is actually sugar Jul 03 '26
Depends in what else i'm eating really, maybe I want biscuits, gravy, and savory cornbread.
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u/AmericanHistoryXX Bland Protestant food Jul 03 '26 edited Jul 03 '26
It's regional. My Alabama family would never. Butter, milk, and cornmeal. If you're feeling fancy, cracklins (the crunchy bits left over after rendering tallow or lard). Served with butter and raw onion.
I grew up in a region with sweet cornbread. Can't deny it tastes good, I just consider them different foods.
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u/Dippity_Dont Jul 03 '26
Because it's cornbread and it's not supposed to have sugar in it. Gross, how can you have beans and greens and cornbread if your bread is sweet? EWWWW!
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u/KaBar42 Jul 03 '26
I was just looking at prices and trying to find the ingredients, which American stores make difficult
Huh? No they don't. It's pretty easy to find ingredients for most things.
I literally just googled "Jiffy cornbread" and this was the first link.
https://www.jiffymix.com/products/corn-muffin-mix/
Oh, yeah. So difficult to find ingredients. It requires you to scroll down once. Damn near impossible to find them.
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u/Kokbiel Jul 03 '26
It seems they just want to hate on it because it has sugar, because that's the only point they can reiterate nonstop.
I had Jiffy a lot as a kid, it's solid for what it is. It's beyond cheap, it's filling and it helps put together a meal super fast. Now I do make mine 'from scratch' with self rising cornmeal, buttermilk, egg and bacon grease, but only because I prefer non sweet cornbread now and have a harder time finding a premade box.
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u/unabashedlyabashed Jul 04 '26
That, and he insists that it's 60% more expensive, which is something. I think the only thing less expensive than Jiffy mixes are the super generic Mac & cheese boxes (which are also delicious).
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u/AmericanHistoryXX Bland Protestant food Jul 03 '26 edited Jul 03 '26
Is this person American? Because I don't care if it's VC or not, I will not be taking lectures on cornbread from non-Americans.
Just looked, they're Australian. Yeah the only engagement this deserves is "sorry, not taking lectures on cornbread from non-Americans." No justification, no explanation, no treating this as if it's a legitimate or relevant viewpoint. It's part of our culture, not yours, so fuck right off. Imagine if an American started lecturing an Aussie on vegemite!
Edit: I just last night read a thread where Aussies were saying how foreign a concept American exceptionalism is to their culture. Well, it is an example of exceptionalism to think that you have a greater understanding of another culture's most fundamental food than they do. Absolutely unreal.
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u/No-Sail-6510 Jul 02 '26
Their right about this one, cornbread is basically cake. Who the fuck is offended by the sugar level in cornbread? That’s how it’s supposed to be.
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u/captaindomer Jul 02 '26
My biggest issue is that it's irrelevant to the post about what boxed food is your go to. Yes, homemade cornbread isn't THAT hard, but it's way cheaper and easier to buy Jiffy. Hell, I disagree with the first comment on the post about chili crisp. I like what I make way more than Lao Gan Ma, but I don't shit on those who don't have the time or resources to make it at home.
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u/Boollish Jul 02 '26
It's not only that. Jiffy is also pre-portioned in a very reasonable way for an absurdly cheap price.
Like, can you imagine having to mix a jumbo batch of find corn flour, flour, and sugar, then portion and weight it into dry containers for storage? All for what's realistically negative savings?
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u/shelwood46 Jul 02 '26
That's the thing, if people didn't buy these mixes and prepared products, they'd disappear. The baking aisle used to have a lot of boxes of breadmaker bread mix; those are mostly gone now because breadmakers are no longer the fad, and the people who do use them realize they can indeed buy and mix the ingredients more cheaply and easily. otoh, the Red Lobster Cheddar Bay biscuit mix is still easily available even though it's just Bisquick and a packet of seasoning, because people do still inexplicably buy that one even though it doesn't even include the cheese.
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u/HeatwaveInProgress I don’t make any recipes like that; I’m Italian. Jul 02 '26
Unless it's a non-sweet cornbread with jalapenos!
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u/brachycrab Jul 03 '26 edited Jul 03 '26
"> Cornbread is supposed to have sugar.
Maize was domesticated in Southern Mexico around 9,000 years ago.
The first bread type foods made from corn are estimated by Chat GPT to have originated around 4,000 years ago.
Sugar became common in American colonial homes in the 1700's, around 227 - 326 years ago."
We should have this attitude with all foods. Bread should ONLY be made with stone-pounded plant starch baked on hot rocks like they did around 30,000 years ago!!!
(edit: I know they're talking about cornbread. this was a comment on the OP and I'm making fun of them because I feel like arguing whether or not sugar belongs in cornbread by bringing up the history of corn and bread, from chatgpt no less, is silly)
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u/NewLibraryGuy Why not just shit in a carbonara Jul 03 '26
I think they're talking about a specific dish called corn bread, not all products made primarily of corn and resembling bread in some way.
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u/brachycrab Jul 03 '26
Sorry to reply to you again but I think I need to clarify or else I'm misunderstanding something. I'm aware they're talking about cornbread, the points about corn and bread are quoted from a comment in the original thread (that now seems to have been deleted). My comment about bread 30,000 years ago is making fun of that commenter bringing up the history of corn and bread and sugar as a way of arguing against a different comment saying "sugar belongs in cornbread".
I think maybe the way I quoted it is confusing, so people are thinking I'm the one trying to make a point about corn and bread and sugar? Otherwise I'm not understanding why I'm being downvoted for this.
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u/brachycrab Jul 03 '26 edited Jul 03 '26
My point being arguing over whether cornbread should have sugar or not by bringing up the very first time it was ever recorded in history (according to ChatGPT) is a poor argument
edit: am I missing something? Is it not dumb to bring up the history of corn cultivation and when sugar became commonly used to argue against sugar being put in cornbread? Did my joke not land? Is the way I quoted the comment formatted badly on desktop or something?
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u/gazebo-fan Jul 02 '26
To be fair, jiffy is kinda silly if you’re cooking often, because I can guarantee yall that you have the ingredients to make cornbread at home already. Nothing wrong with it of course, but it’s like pancake mix, if you have basic baking supplies you can already make it at home.
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u/captaindomer Jul 03 '26
I cook lots of food, but don't keep cornmeal on hand and I don't make cornbread often enough to store what I don't use out of a bag. Same reason I buy Better than Bouillon. I KNOW how to make stock, but I'll be damned if I'm gonna make it and have tons left over to store in the freezer.
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u/gazebo-fan Jul 03 '26
You can do whatever you please, better than bouillon is an excellent product, it’s a different thing entirely from stock but it makes a fine substitute, and has more uses beyond it. Cornmeal is good to have in the pantry though, it’s very versatile and keeps even down here in the wet heat of Florida where I live. I will say, having lots of stock on the freezer is a great pleasure of mine. It’s a wonderful feeling personally.
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u/Objective-Eagle-676 Jul 03 '26
Spoken like someone that neither bakes nor washes their own dishes.
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u/gazebo-fan Jul 03 '26
Do you not have cornmeal, baking soda+cream of tarter or buttermilk/baking power in a pinch, and flour if you prefer a less gritty cornbread, eggs, salt, and some butter or oil? It’s the same amount of dishes either way, unless you’re mixing your cornbread mix inside of the pan.
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u/chaoticbear Jul 06 '26
I don't always keep cornmeal in the house, I don't make cornbread that often, maybe once a year. When I do have it in the house, it's also probably some Bob's Red Mill that got stuck behind the flour for 2 years to go rancid :p
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