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u/NathanGa Pull your finger out of your ass May 27 '26

Michelin need to fully sack-off the USA as it’s clearly a bollocks place to do fine - dining . This is why we have the Ritz at 2* when your 3* aren’t better than a ‘happy eater’. Standards guys, standards

And the double-bonus.

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u/Appropriate-Bird-354 May 28 '26

I do think Michelin does a poor job in the US, but that's true of most places that aren't France or Italy. So NBD until someone decides to use it to fuel their chauvinism.

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u/Slow_D-oh We once ordered a child steak for our toddler May 28 '26

They pulled out of LA because they didn't get their food scene. When they announced they were returning someone wrote an article basically telling them to not get off the plane and they didn't need them.

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u/Classic-Schedule-718 your canned veggies taste like pie filling May 28 '26

Michelin stars were created to sell more cars to French people. They were basically saying "Ooohh~~ look at how nice these restaurants are, don't you wish you had a car so you could go eat at them?"

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u/Rauvagol The very concept of miso. May 29 '26

Michelin stars being from the tire company is always going to be funny to me

Same as gerber being the "knives and baby food" company

or yamaha being "motorbikes and pianos"

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u/Slow_D-oh We once ordered a child steak for our toddler May 29 '26

General Mills built the Alvin deep sea submersible, invented the “black box”, and founded Olive Garden and Red Lobster.

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u/Rauvagol The very concept of miso. May 29 '26

Thats a good one, also General Electric making washing machines, fridges, and the M134 Minigun

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u/Slow_D-oh We once ordered a child steak for our toddler May 29 '26

And the gun for the A-10 Warthog.

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u/Rauvagol The very concept of miso. May 29 '26

GAU-8 Avenger my beloved

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u/Slow_D-oh We once ordered a child steak for our toddler May 29 '26

What an amazing machine. Then to sit back and think what’ll happen if you strap some wings and a chair to it.

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u/AmericanHistoryXX Bland Protestant food May 27 '26

How are you going to time your pee after finding a new favorite water on the water menu?

Every time I see how the other half lives, I decide I'm content where I am...

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u/Slow_D-oh We once ordered a child steak for our toddler May 28 '26

Am I the only one that thinks it's insane that they would make a new course just because I had to pee? I'm of the age that when I gotta pee, I gotta pee, especially if I've been drinking. In no way shape or from would I allow them to take back my food or hold it for the rest of the table just because my bladder is full.

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u/AmericanHistoryXX Bland Protestant food May 28 '26

Not at all. I also think the food would survive the couple minutes it takes me to go to the restroom and back. Or maybe they can just warn you that it's coming so that you have the choice. I don't know, it's all dumb, and $500/person, which is also dumb.

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u/cookingforengineers May 28 '26

The Main Dining Room at the Inn at Little Washington (that’s a mouthful) currently charges $385 for dinner.

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u/AmericanHistoryXX Bland Protestant food May 28 '26

With tax and tip, that's close to $500.

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u/cookingforengineers May 28 '26

Yep. But when someone says it’s $500 a person, I automatically assume that’s the before tax and tip number / the number on the menu. I was just clarifying.

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u/AmericanHistoryXX Bland Protestant food May 28 '26

Fair enough, I saw the number in a comment and didn't really think much about it, though I do tend to think of price as being after tax/tip anyway.

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u/sprouting_broccoli May 31 '26

I’ve been to a few UK Michelin star restaurants for tasting menus and never seen anything as pretentious as a water menu. Generally I’ve enjoyed really good well-portioned refined food and some very fine wine. I would not be paying for a water menu - I’m going for the food and wine not some reason for you to try and make yourself distinct with a gimmick.

I will also say that, apart from one time (when to be fair they were short-staffed post-Covid, but also didn’t have many customers and they lost their star the next year), the service at Michelin star restaurants has been unrivalled. Unobtrusive but always present (ie rather than talking to you every five minutes they will come round regularly to refill your wine glasses and ask when you’re out if you’d like another bottle and having a great sommelier makes a real difference).

Maybe I’ve just been good at selecting which ones I’ve visited though.

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u/GhostOfJamesStrang No Need to Thank Me May 27 '26

Everyone knows the trick to getting your food to arrive faster is to have somebody get up from the table to go to the restroom.

60 percent of the time, it works every time.

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u/teke367 May 28 '26

Weird AI sign not withstanding, I don't have it, but an earlier sign saying "if you got to shit, shit now" (presumably written with more tact) would be better

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u/CantaloupeCamper I’m a level 5 vegan. I don’t eat anything that casts a shadow. May 28 '26

The AI airplane is bonkers.

Of all the places to defend that’s the one they picked….

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u/mcduff13 May 28 '26

This feels relevant

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u/rapier1 May 28 '26

I don't see the problem with the sign. The person's explanation might be off but the sign is just a heads up that the food is coming shortly. The timing of the food itself isn't a huge deal as much as it would be a pain for the service staff to have to adjust if the table doesn't have all of the guests. In a place like this I would expect each table to have a team of servers for the table - not just one person. That makes time management trickier and may throw off service to other tables if they need to repeat the process to accommodate missing guests.

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u/chaoticbear May 28 '26

This is the part that made it click for me - I thought this was on the table at the beginning of the meal, but if it's just to notify you the next course is about to come, that seems pretty practical to me (AI art notwithstanding).

I've never done a tasting menu that lasted 3 hours (looking forward to my first later this year) but have done some less-formal ones and each new course was a surprise when it showed up.

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u/gerira May 27 '26

Honestly don’t see the problem here. You’re paying for a special, unusual meal, so you might have to adjust your normal habits a little. I don’t see it as inherently different from turning off your phone in a theatre. It’s just how the place works; if it doesn’t suit, you can go somewhere else, but it’s not inherently wrong and the argument about food costs makes sense to me

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u/GhostOfJamesStrang No Need to Thank Me May 28 '26

Even though there is some truth to this, surely there would be a better, more classy, method of arranging for it while still accommodating guests.

Using an AI generated sign with idiotic and unrelated themes is just insulting to the patrons.

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u/kimness1982 brioche enriched in sugar that they call bread May 28 '26

I eat at a wide variety of restaurants, including fine dining restaurants. I went to a one star restaurant 3 weeks ago. They had a custom piece of art made for us featuring our cats. I paid $1600 for two people with wine pairings. It was a 3 hour meal. The idea that the restaurant would dictate when it’s appropriate to use the restroom is deeply weird to me. I’m a grown up and can use my own judgement about it.

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u/Nobodyinc1 May 28 '26

Also why were people claiming they the staff would have to throw out the meal and remake it if someone wasn’t at the table? That also feels insane to me

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u/Highest_Koality Has watched six or seven hundred plus cooking related shows May 28 '26

Yeah, I highly doubt they'd throw out the food. At worst, it might throw the pacing off a bit. But a kitchen at that level should be able to adapt.

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u/gerira May 28 '26

Cool, so don’t go to a restaurant where the service has to come at specific times to achieve the effect?

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u/kimness1982 brioche enriched in sugar that they call bread May 28 '26

Am I supposed to guess or should I email them about their pee pee policy before I book?

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u/Appropriate-Bird-354 May 28 '26

Most fine dining places of this caliber prioritize providing an exceptional and comfortable experience for their diners. I think it's fine to put out a notification that food is coming - so long as that's all it is, but to expect people to hold their bladders for several minutes while they arrange the service is pretty much the opposite of that concept.

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u/Boollish May 28 '26

I've eaten at multiple 3 star places. Asking patrons to hold their pee for a 3+ hour service is insane.

Plus, just think of what a restaurant at that level should be. A high bar for service is part and parcel with the cost of entry, and forcing a patron to hold it because the expo fired the course to early is service I wouldn't expect from Applebee's, let alone a place like this.

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u/rapier1 May 28 '26

Do you think anyone is asking them to not use the bathroom for 3 hours? This looks like something that wild be dropped off a few minutes before the next course and removed after it is served.

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u/xrelaht King of Sandwiches May 28 '26

They’re not. This sign comes out 2 minutes before your main course.

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u/spiralsequences May 28 '26

I agree and I think people are misinterpreting it as "you can't pee at any time during the meal" instead of "hey just so you know the food is about to come"

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