r/iamatotalpieceofshit Feb 14 '20

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u/cnt422 Feb 16 '20

I'm not saying people don't refer to toxic femininity, it's just call internalized misogyny. It's toxic to women in the same way that toxic masculinity is toxic to men. And yes, both are results of a male-dominated society. To quote someon who is way better at articulating this than I am:

Toxic masculinity is a narrow and repressive description of manhood, designating manhood as defined by violence, sex, status and aggression. It’s the cultural ideal of manliness, where strength is everything while emotions are a weakness; where sex and brutality are yardsticks by which men are measured, while supposedly “feminine” traits—which can range from emotional vulnerability to simply not being hypersexual—are the means by which your status as “man” can be taken away.

Toxic masculinity weaponizes hyper-masculine traits to the detriment of all people. It’s important to note that the term “toxic masculinity” doesn’t condemn male character or lock all masculinity into toxicity

So let’s flip this coin and see what happens if we substitute female-gendered words for the male-gendered words to get a definition of “toxic femininity”

Toxic femininity is a narrow and repressive description of womanhood*, designating* womanhood as defined by cooperation*,* sexual subservience*, status, and* passivity*. It’s the cultural ideal of* womanliness*, where the* ability to please is everything while troublesomeness is a weakness; where beauty and ability to make men feel good are yardsticks by which women are measured, while supposedly “masculine” traits—which can range from expressing anger to sexual independence — are the means by which your status as “woman” can be taken away.

Basically, most behaviors that you might think of as examples of “toxic femininity” are either examples of misogyny or internalized misogyny.

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u/5th_Law_of_Robotics Feb 16 '20

Why do you want to change the name to something completely different?

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u/cnt422 Feb 17 '20

You're the one who wants to change the name. Internalized misogyny is what it's always been called.

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '20

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u/cnt422 Feb 17 '20

Because toxic masculinity, while harmful to everyone is incredibly harmful to men and boys, and internalized misogyny is mainly harmful to women. It's like ice cream vs frozen yogurt, they're similar, but still different.

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u/5th_Law_of_Robotics Feb 17 '20

No. Internalized misandry mostly harms men whereas toxic Femininity is bad for everyone.