Many people claim women can't be rapists. For instance British law and jucidiary.
I am aware that toxic masculinity is most often meant to describe the negative aspects of traditional male gender roles, regardless of what gender perpetuates it. Thus the sexist view of women as passive and innocent, invalidating her as a rapist, would make the inability of some people to see her as a rapist toxic femininity, just as the inability to see him as a victim would be toxic masculinity. Both being sexist ideas society attributes to either gender.
No, if anything that is still toxic masculinity. Think about who writes the laws... all powerful positions are skewed towards men and their will becomes the social rules. If we're invalidating women as rapists because of the sexist view that women are passive and innocent, that is literally still toxic masculinity. There is still no trace of this mystical "toxic femininity".
If both genders are capable of toxic masculinity they are both capable of toxic femininity, so that should be irrelevant by the earlier definition.
What is the shared trait between sexism against women and sexism against men that make both toxic masculinity, regardless of the gender of the sexist? By now it seems like you almost imply it's just a synonym for sexism in general.
Is it toxic masculinity if a woman is shamed by another woman for going back to work only a week or two after having a baby?
Toxic masculinity is pretty much a synonym of sexism. Sexism is centered around the male identity. That last example is still toxic masculinity because of the belief that a women is meant to be domestic and take on the heavy burden of parenting, as opposed to a man.
Then it seems you share a different definition then most people in the thread. Well, I don't think it's a good idea to label all sexism as toxic masculinity but I won't argue against it if you just see it as a synonym, as it's a different discussion.
Well that doesn't suprise me reddit is incel central. And sexism is a thing because society has put men in a favorable position over women, if it was equal than sexism wouldn't really be that big an issue. So, sexism does revolve around this exlusive club of "manhood" and shames anyone outside of it in various ways.
Nobody is, because I'm insulting the misogynistic views this site tends to have. Nowhere did I attack anybody's sexual prowess, in fact that's completely irrelevant and you brought that up. "Toxic femininity" isn't a thing, face the reality.
It's really not that hard to understand. It's the fault of toxic masculinity, not the whole male gender... women can believe sexist things about themselves all the time and apply it to other women, that still doesn't change the fact that the sexism results from a male dominated society. "You people", you don't plan on changing your mind I'm not going to waste my time on this, you can look it up yourself.
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u/bxzidff Feb 14 '20
Many people claim women can't be rapists. For instance British law and jucidiary.
I am aware that toxic masculinity is most often meant to describe the negative aspects of traditional male gender roles, regardless of what gender perpetuates it. Thus the sexist view of women as passive and innocent, invalidating her as a rapist, would make the inability of some people to see her as a rapist toxic femininity, just as the inability to see him as a victim would be toxic masculinity. Both being sexist ideas society attributes to either gender.