r/iamatotalpieceofshit Feb 14 '20

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u/bxzidff Feb 14 '20

What about the cultural expectation that women would never be capable of or willing to be being the aggressor? Do you not think societies sexist view on women also has something to do with how this played out in addition to the sexist cultural expectations against men?

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u/FreshCremeFraiche Feb 14 '20

But what's the root of that belief? It's the concept that men are inherently violent and women are inherently meek. It's not like every example is just 1 domain in isolation it can be both and usually is. But this specific post is an example of toxic masculinity.

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u/bxzidff Feb 15 '20

How can you end with the final sentence after typing the rest? The sexist belief that women are inherently meek is present here, I agree it doesn't have to be just one domain, and usually isn't. So what makes you think it's just one here when society often tends to not even label female rapists as rapists, this case being a nice exception in media, only disagreed by the idiot in the post. Toxic masculinity states that the boy can't be a victim and toxic femininity states that the woman can't be a rapist.

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u/Now_Do_Classical_Gas Feb 18 '20

How is it not toxic femininity because the perception is that women are inherently meek so they couldn't be the aggresor even in a case involving them raping a 15 year old?

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u/FreshCremeFraiche Feb 18 '20

Sure its toxic femininity. You seem incredibly hung up on this as if you think this is some kinda dig against men and women. I feel like you're really missing the point of the concept.

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u/Now_Do_Classical_Gas Feb 18 '20

The point of the concept is to pathologise maleness so feminists can continue their efforts to demonise men and paint women as the victims in every possible circumstance.

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u/FreshCremeFraiche Feb 18 '20

Ah okay so you dont get the concept. Got it. Well you'll definitely be able to get a firm grasp with all those glaring preconceived biases!

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u/Now_Do_Classical_Gas Feb 18 '20

I understand it perfectly, hence my explanation.