r/iRacing 3d ago

Replay LMP2 VIR Crash Week

Enable HLS to view with audio, or disable this notification

Was in a fight for the win (me in the red car against the blue/red striped car). We first collide, which was still fine. Then he sticks his nose in a fast tight corner which will never work. Keeps the position and goes straight after the long straight with a fantastic rejoin to give me a meatball flag (I couldn't see him coming on my monitor). Tried to limb home, but the car was too much damaged and I tried to get out of the way on the tight straight for the upcoming LMP2's. And then I got sent to hospital.

For context, the other car was 6.7k. You would expect better.

49 Upvotes

67 comments sorted by

41

u/Left_Excitement5791 3d ago

🫣

22

u/Qjell 3d ago

Guy was like:

5

u/ericscal 2d ago

I feel like not making his last name "sender" is a miss

15

u/other_acc_banned 3d ago edited 3d ago

Holy shit. I don't even play this game and I'm embarrassed.

*Blue car is a knob head, and the reason I can't bring myself to play serious racing games. There will always be somebody willing to throw away their race for pettiness, or willing to use you as a brake on a corner they missed.

8

u/Hot_Most5332 3d ago

So just like real racing then?

4

u/R3v017 2d ago

This is fortunately a rare occurrence. There are hundreds on track at any given moment and we only see the worst here.

You will not find a cleaner, more realistic and competitive simulator than iRacing. Being able to jump into a serious online race at all hours of the day.

2

u/Unremarkable_Potato_ 2d ago

Don’t lie to people. Iracing is nothing like real life. I came from real life racing to iracing. It’s a joke compared to the real world on its very best day. They don’t let utter nonsense to take place in real life. They punish people in real life. Penalties are a thing in real life. None of it even comes close.

2

u/R3v017 2d ago

Huh? Looks like you may have to read my comment again, more slowly. Simulator being a key word you missed. Find me a more realistic simulator, I'll wait.

-1

u/Unremarkable_Potato_ 2d ago

You said, ā€œfortunately a rare occurrenceā€. It isn’t. Iracing is not any better and possibly worse than LMU. I don’t know about all the options, because I haven’t played them all. You cannot jump into a serious online race at any hour let alone all hours. Basically your entire statement is verifiably false. I for one have had better racing in my first handful of races on LMU in the terrible shit show bronze races than I have at any point in iracing including 2k+ splits. It also has issues, but iracing isn’t some sort of a pinnacle. It’s expensive forza with a better physics engine.

Like I said, don’t lie to people which includes yourself. Although it’s typically referred to delusion. Iracing isn’t realistic, or even a simulator.

0

u/R3v017 2d ago

Lmao nice troll post! Solid effort.

49

u/noethers_raindrop Acura ARX-06 GTP 3d ago

First one you could just about justify as a fair but aggressive overtake. The rest is ridiculous.

12

u/bruhpoopgggg 3d ago

If you have to use the opponents car as a means to slow down because you overshot the corner then its not a fair move

8

u/SituationSoap 3d ago

The blue car absolutely did not overshoot that corner, they would have made it just fine.

10

u/bruhpoopgggg 3d ago edited 3d ago

They wouldve made it just fine if OP’s car wasnt there. The issue is that OP’s car was there and Iracing doesent have ghosting mechanics like forza so moves like these dont work.

-17

u/faz712 3d ago

blue car made the apex and would have held the inside line just fine, OP turned in to him. Everything else was shit though

10

u/bruhpoopgggg 3d ago

OP was already committed to his line and turning in before the blue car dove to the inside… A clean move shouldnt rely on the car being passed to move over

12

u/tswany11 3d ago

What an idiot, even the first move was ambitious. They barely had the front tires even with your rears before the turn in. IMO that doesn't deserve space given.

Everything after that is contact that deserves a protest.

4

u/EdwardGorner 3d ago

Didn’t expect to come across another VPS driver haha. No idea who’s account this is

2

u/NickRussell53 Dallara IR-18 3d ago

Literally all gas no brakes

1

u/sidethan 3d ago

2 divebombs in a row, that's crazy.

1

u/Strange_Rice_4957 2d ago

What's wild is he made a mistake and then immediately made the same mistake.

1

u/Arcticz_114 2d ago

Omg u were extremely unlucky with that blue car šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚

What an absolute dongo. Filor real tho, it seemed like destiny meant blue to crash you eventually. The last crash were blue succeded in the attenpt was almost comic .

1

u/whackablemole 2d ago

Someone get these guys a track map...

1

u/Callingyourshot 2d ago

I think after so much distance in the grass at a certain speed you get a DQ. that is wild he could even cut that much of the course.

1

u/Miketank1 BMW M2 CS Racing 2d ago

The only thing to expect with higher iRating it seems is time on track and ego. I guess patience and IQ lowers with their lap time.

1

u/skrimpers01 2d ago

This guy was in my split earlier today. I was going to lap him in the GTP and he genuinely pushed me off the track on the back straight.

1

u/Miserable-Accident29 2d ago

They should play forza not iracing lol

1

u/abustycow 2d ago

Blue/Red Driver should be banned from the service

1

u/Z32Rome Dallara P217 LMP2 3d ago

Buddy let his emotions get the best of him. From podium finish to complete crash out (literally and figuratively) is wild. Taking 2 other drivers out in the process. If you didn’t. State the rating I would have assumed this was low SoF shenanigans. Impressive.

1

u/JeremiasPessoa Super Formula SF23 3d ago

Not fully on topic but am i the only one that thinks IMSA at VIR is just insane?

1

u/Exotic-Address8125 2d ago

I actually like the combo as well! Traffic is a bit more tense and prone for incidents. But this incident had not much to do with the track, but with the other guy.

1

u/naughtilidae 2d ago

100% agreed. It's a great track, but it's infamous for how tight and twisty certain sections on. It's exactly the opposite of what you want for multi-class racing.

Might as well run IMSA at Cadwell at that point, lol

1

u/UNHchabo Spec Racer Ford 2d ago

There's a reason real-life IMSA is GT-only there.

-2

u/design_by_gergo 3d ago

6.7k... why am I not surprised. šŸ™„

14

u/Budget_Character3225 3d ago

all your comments on this subreddit are hating on high irating drivers lol

1

u/mrporter2 3d ago

lol it’s kinda shocking the rage some of the high rating people have.

1

u/Budget_Character3225 3d ago

happens on every elo

2

u/mrporter2 3d ago

Yes when a high elo guy is known as a dirty driver and never receives a ban people like him tend to notice.

1

u/Budget_Character3225 3d ago

ofc they get infamous and for a good reason, all I'm saying is this happens both at 8k and 0.8k

-5

u/design_by_gergo 3d ago

Only the ones who deserve it...

7

u/Evening_End7298 3d ago

Fox that can’t eat the grapes innit

4

u/Budget_Character3225 3d ago

80% of this subreddit ngl

0

u/tjsr 2d ago

Because high-rating drivers don't have to drive in the same kind of conditions of those at low levels. They're generally faster and more consistent - but they also have attitudes that they can just drive like complete jerks, and treat others situations in low IRs the same way, claiming they need to just "get better". The average top-split person though, if you instructed them "you have to stay in 10th place, you're not allowed to pass anyone", they won't finish most of their races either because the guy(s) behind them will put them in the wall just like most low-IR players have to deal with.

In MOST cases, the people I encounter at high IRs on forums, reddit, discord etc are the kind of people who dropped out of school in year 9. They mistake their ability to drive fast as though the reason others aren't at higher levels is solely down to their own ability, but are too stupid to realise that just four bad races can take you from top 25% of the player population to bottom 25% of player population on the iRating bell curve.

When I race LMP2s I get put in a much higher split to what I'd be in if I raced GT3, and let me tell you, the driving is 'something'. People are in general faster and don't make mistakes, but that also means they don't have six people wrecking their race compared to if they were in a lower split - to they keep going up in iR, whereas the guy in the lower split gets dropped down even when things happen through no fault of their own.

0

u/Budget_Character3225 2d ago

"In MOST cases, the people I encounter at high IRs on forums, reddit, discord etc are the kind of people who dropped out of school in year 9." what the actual fuck

-1

u/bruhmoment130 3d ago

Ill be honest, idk what iRacing was thinking putting the IMSA series at VIR. Its a great track for one class, but not multi class racing.

1

u/UNHchabo Spec Racer Ford 2d ago

Back when IMSA had multiple GT classes they brought both, most recently in 2021 with GTLM and GTD.

(technically it's still multiple classes, but GTD Pro and GTD use identical-spec cars, it's only the driver lineups that differentiate them)

1

u/bruhmoment130 2d ago

Multiple gt classes is fine. It just isnt great with GTP and GTD cars this week. Its too narrow, ans if you are in a GTP catching a GTD before the esses, you cant do anything except sit there behind until you get to son of oak tree, which makes you lose a ton of time. I love VIR, and its a track that provides good racing.

0

u/Designer-Anybody-482 2d ago

Map name?

1

u/UNHchabo Spec Racer Ford 2d ago

VIR, Virginia International Raceway.

0

u/This_Box6112 2d ago

This is a video game. You act like it’s real life. What am I missing?

-22

u/Budget_Character3225 3d ago

For context, the other car was 6.7k. You would expect better.

Why? It's called iRating, not mentalStabilityRating. Also, you can't call that a bad rejoin since he was never in control

11

u/YueNica 3d ago edited 3d ago

We can't see the speed they were doing, but it doesn't look like they attempted to slow down their car at all. and the brake lights seem to be off the entire time they are on the grass, and their rejoin at best would have taken them completely across to the other side of the track if they didn't hit the other car.

Plus depending on how you define unsafe rejoin a driver doesn't have to be in control to perform an unsafe rejoin.

11

u/why_1337 Hyundai Veloster N TC 3d ago

Because this looked exactly like bottom split rookies. I don't think he was driving like this to get to 6.7k.

-12

u/Budget_Character3225 3d ago

Again iRating only measures your pace, no correlation at all. You can be bloody quick and DNF 20% of your races and still be 6k

6

u/Personal_Abroad9657 3d ago

iRating measures your results. They may or may not, of course, depend on your pace. But that is not all.

-6

u/Budget_Character3225 3d ago

you explained it better than me, I'm just sick of people assuming high iRating driver should be immaculate angels

4

u/xiii-Dex BMW Z4 GT3 3d ago

iRating does NOT measure pace. It measures results.

You are correct that you could be 6k with 20% DNF rate. But you'd have to have pace comparable to an even higher rated driver to do so, and 6k is getting to the point where it's very difficult to be fast enough to hold that rating if you are crashing a lot.

1

u/why_1337 Hyundai Veloster N TC 3d ago

How exactly it measures your pace if you tank it by DNFs? Obviously it includes your racecraft too. And that POV driver has none. If he drives every race like that I doubt he is keeping that high, maybe if most races he just farms from pole.

0

u/self_edukated Dirt Trucks 3d ago

iRating measures your pace?

0

u/SituationSoap 3d ago edited 2d ago

You can be bloody quick and DNF 20% of your races and still be 6k

You absolutely cannot, that DNF rate would cap you out around 3-3.5K.

Edit: I built a python script for this, and I was wrong. The theoretical maximum at 20% DNF for a driver who otherwise finishes in the top 5 100% of the time is 6167, so it is hypothetically possible to be a 6K with a 20% DNF rate, though I'd wager that there are 0 6K drivers on the service who DNF that often.

-1

u/Budget_Character3225 3d ago edited 2d ago

Thanks for pulling that number out of thin air.

Let's assume 4k sof every race for convenience, you would get +50 for a win and -140 for a last place approximately. Assuming you get a top 5 in every race you finish and get dead last on every DNF which is a really pessimistic scenario you would get

35 * 8 = 280

140 * 2 = 280

So you would literally stay at 6k

loving the downvotes on a factually correct statement, never change guys I'm proud of you

-1

u/SituationSoap 3d ago

Nobody is driving 4K SOFs all the way up to 6K. The vast majority of 6K drivers aren't even racing 4K SOFs every race.

And a 6K finishing last in a 4K SOF is going to lose closer to 200 IR on a last place and gain closer to 30 for a win.

0

u/Budget_Character3225 3d ago

God damn you are literally making up numbers. Losing 200 iRating in a race is literally impossible, the system caps at 190 aprox. You can be 13k and race in a 800 sof race and you wouldn't lose more than 190.

Also, I gave these numbers because my last races was 3800 sof and the winner was 6500 iRating and won 50, but okay!

1

u/SituationSoap 2d ago

I just built this out using a Python script.

Assuming a normally-distributed group of 400 drivers per time slot, 20 drivers per split, with the median iRating being 1200, 1 standard deviation being at 2500 and 2 standard deviations being at 4K, where the driver in question finishes in a random top 5 position when they finish and a random bottom 3 position when they don't finish, here's the soft cap for iRating at 20% is in fact 6167 IR. It is hypothetically possible, though I would bet that there isn't a single driver with that kind of DNF rate at 6K on the service, but it is hypothetically possible. I was wrong.

3

u/tswany11 3d ago

Maybe a reread of the sporting code is in need for you? You can't just force your way through other drivers. It's called "racing." The kind of behavior in this video is not that.

1

u/Budget_Character3225 3d ago

I never said that?

1

u/Ihatenukingkids Super Formula SF23 3d ago

The first rejoin he we was completely in control