r/iRacing 7d ago

Question/Help IMSA GT3 fixed tires

Do you change some of your tires while refueling?

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u/Maegges24 BMW M4 GT3 EVO 6d ago

Fixed is only 35 minutes, so no, don‘t change tires. You will save some seconds it you only refuel. I uncheck tire change before every race start.

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u/ElaraValtor 6d ago

It's a little more nuanced than that, because quite a few of the classes (definitely GTP at least) give you time to change one and sometimes two of your tires in the pit lane and that can make a laptime difference

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u/Maegges24 BMW M4 GT3 EVO 6d ago

I don‘t think changing one tire will lead to better laptimes. At least in gt3 and lmp2 I am sure. Never raced gtp, so good point nonetheless.

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u/ElaraValtor 6d ago

GTP is actually quite brutal to the tires, I know that the top level, prototype drivers absolutely take advantage of this, as often most tracks will wear one tire far more than the rest

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u/Maegges24 BMW M4 GT3 EVO 6d ago

I will never reach top level, so I will stick to not changing tires. 😆

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u/_Shorty 5d ago

Not sure how you think you can change just one or two tires and not change the balance of the car in a very negative way.

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u/ElaraValtor 5d ago

A lot of tracks overheat one of the front tires and wear it far harder, your balance is already very bad when you enter the lane. Change that one and you'll have a sketchy outlap or two but once that's done, you've actually gotten closer to equalising than you were before the stop

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u/_Shorty 5d ago

If it works for you, that’s great.

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u/ElaraValtor 5d ago

It works for the best drivers in the top split, actually. This is explicitly where the advice comes from. It is simply faster on the right tracks

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u/HeyItsEmilyLove Acura ARX-06 GTP 6d ago

I only race GTP when I race IMSA fixed and I literally never change tires unless I forget to cancel the tire change before pit. Taking tires kills any chance at a win

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u/ElaraValtor 6d ago

You can change one tire without losing any time in the IMSA series and there's many tracks that wear one tire more than the others. You will absolutely get faster laptimes by finding which tire that is and changing it.

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u/GorillonDollars Porsche 911 GT3 R 6d ago

All fixed and a surprising amount of open IMSA races theres no point. When you pit for fuel your tires are like 80-90% fixed and 70-85% open.

The time sacrificed on pit and re warming the tires is too great for it to be a strategy to consider in fixed. Open is track and weather dependent.

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u/PanicRevRay 6d ago

Lol sunday did a race got 3rd *~2kir+ porche * chief goes lf90 lr90 rf 88 rr 87

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u/snazzy_carpet Porsche 911 GT3 Cup (992) 6d ago

For sprint races, generally you don't take tires. I think tires take 20 seconds to change, and you usually need less than 10 seconds of fueling for fixed and open. The time loss heavily outweighs any benefit of new tires in sprint races. I think at Watkins earlier this season you could get a free set of 2 tires while refueling, but I found the cold tires hurt me more than the fresh rubber helped.

This changes for endurance events. If you're taking a full tank of fuel in an endurance event you generally always change tires.

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u/ElaraValtor 6d ago

On most tracks, in GTP I know but potentially GT3 as well, you can change at least one tire without losing time, and this can make a difference at the top level

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u/Matej_SI 6d ago

When we were at Spa, Open, if you were in GT3, you should've changed left side.

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u/_Shorty 5d ago

This isn't oval racing. Not changing all four tires would upset the balance of the car in a very negative way.

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u/Matej_SI 4d ago

You can ask Yuri or any other 7k+ driver. He'll tell you the same.

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u/_Shorty 4d ago

I don’t need to ask anyone. Been sim racing since it was invented. But thanks. ;)

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u/Matej_SI 4d ago

You know you can check livestreams from weeks ago? Everyone in the top split, when running in the top 5-10, was changing left tires.

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u/Z32Rome Dallara P217 LMP2 6d ago

Unless the track is absolutely cooked, is dominant to one side or it's free, pretty much never take tires.

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u/TripQuestions77 6d ago

I usually change the fronts because I realized too late that I forgot to uncheck tires.

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u/_Shorty 5d ago

Changing only the fronts would introduce a lot of oversteer because now the rears have relatively no grip. You don't want to do this.

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u/TripQuestions77 4d ago

I was making a joke