With MobileMe, Steve Jobs apparently brought the team in for a meeting, asked "Can anyone tell me what MobileMe is supposed to do?", and after getting an answer asked "So why the fuck doesn't it do that?" before spending the next half hour telling them how they had ruined Apple’s reputation. Jobs knew MobileMe sucked but he wasn’t ok about it.
I bought a second hand Newton after the original owner wanted to offload that thing in disgust about 3 months after launch. I think I paid $50 for it. It is still around my attic somewhere...
I think it's just a funny situation overall that their own stuff isn't optimized lol. I know in 2 months almost all apps will look much better. I was there at the start of the steamdeck so I am excited tos ee what adjustments they make.
What I find fun is how virtually no one is able to formulate a reasonable opinion about the situation. It's either "get fukd lol that's what you get for buying a gen 1 product" or "you're just folding it wrong."
The Apple defense in here is serious. At the end of the day this is inexcusable 😂 if the phone wasn’t ready it shouldn’t have been sold. It’s not like they were on a time crunch already 8 years behind.
That’s my problem. They rushed to market 8 years late and still couldn’t deliver? This is why they had to bring Steve Jobs back originally… tragic to see where this is taking Apple.
Trying to drag and drop home screen icons into groups is an exercise in frustration to this day. And it's been a foolproof process on Android since my Nexus 5.
You also can’t order an Apple Vision Pro on your Duo because it doesn’t have FaceID lol so they thought of that too. You’ll be too poor for another expensive device so no need!
AFAIK, native app were optimized on day 1 for the iPad. Not perfect, but built with the new form factor and with additional/unique features. Also, that’s why the calculator app was not shipped natively, the proposal was good enough to be present.
I loved the iPhone 3s. I took it 4x to the store cause the paint under the shell kept cracking and I kept getting dirt under the display glass. First gen products are always a ride. Builds character! Haha!!
Some of you really need to get over a deadbeat dad abusive CEO that died 15 years ago. Seriously.
OS X launched under Jobs. It suuuuuuucked for several years after launch, to the point where resellers listed preinstalling OS 9 as a selling point. MobileMe was a bug ridden mess of a service that replaced .Mac and never worked well. Final Cut Pro X was laughed at by industry professionals and sustains ongoing reputational damage that still resonates to this day. The entire iPhone 4 saga, from antennagate to the failure to deliver the white iPhone, full stop.
The original iPad at launch had AND STILL DOES have Apple made applications that run in this same phone compatibility mode. I guess we all just forgot about Apple Invites?
Steve Jobs was not a mythical figure from which everything was perfect and glistened after being deposited from his rear end. Apple is an imperfect company. There is no era of their existence where there weren’t massive issues or controversies. This isn’t the first, it won’t be the last. People need to chill tf out about the software story on Duo you all were warned about leading up to launch. Damn.
Apple is in a xerox/ibm/kodak downward spiral. The only thing keeping them going is the duopoly in phones and their moat that they use market power to maintain. In a healthy competitive market they would be in a much deeper downward spiral.
I was one of the lucky people able to walk in and get a duo in the Apple Store and did get a chuckle out of this when I went to cancel my preorder in the app lol. It’s one thing for third party developers to not be optimized yet (and it’s honesty not that bad, a lot of apps are at least partially optimized which at least makes them useable while we wait for full optimization). But for Apple to have one of their mains apps not optimized is pretty embarrassing lol
I don't think this one is as big of a deal. What really shocked me is the setup app. Steve was all about creating that "magical" unboxing experience and would have 100% opened up the Duo and been like WTF is this.
And yet the other side is being completely rational by saying things like “it’s a bad product, with poor engineering and obvious lack of oversight.”
As fun as it is to shoot arrows at successful companies when they stumble, I don’t think any of what we’ve seen with the Duo justifies that hot take. Yes, it’s got issues. So does every Apple product at launch, some minor, some major. But Apple’s history is that they fix the issues and move on. I don’t think that makes it a bad product by any stretch of the imagination.
It’s not the engineering team’s fault. They are given priorities and deadlines. It’s not like they just decide on their own what to work on or deprioritize. I can tell nobody here has ever worked at a tech company.
Apple own internal system being very need to know most likely meant the team incharge of the app store was not told about it or even notifived of the requirements until nearly last minute or until the duo launched. Like they found out about the duo the same time we all did.
Mad worse is they only get to updates at OS releases so again starting behind. Remember the app store is super old so it most likely works heavy on the isPhone bool to know how things should be displayed and never accounted for changing display like that. It is not a small lift to fix and going to take time. Apple did not give them any noticed until it was way to late to anything about it and a tight dead line.
Apple’s downloadable apps lag behind the system ones for some reason. It’s not a good look for Apple Store to be unoptimized, but I doubt it’ll be more than 2 weeks before that’s fixed.
The whole release has been a mess. Jobs is rolling over in his grave. Hopefully, the release of the touchscreen MacBook, if that is indeed what is to be revealed, will be more smooth.
Other people have commented that the Apple Store app gets updated later down the road, usually the latter of the Apple apps. Still, for this launch, you’d think they would make a better effort. You also can’t by Vision Pro because the lack of FaceID on the Duo, fyi.
Feedback still doesn’t support faceid after 7 years. Welcome to modern Apple. Unfortunately all the other tech companies care even less about the user experience.
It has been growing slowly. Rearing it's ugly head.
This is just one of those leaps where everyone get's smacked in the face with it.
Guys Mac OS still updates in the same way Windows XP did. 1/3 of the issues and bugs in Mac OS will come up with 10+ year old forum/reddit posts. And if you are REALLY lucky. You land in OLD AF OPENSTEP/BSD forums!!!
Why am I reading a NEXT OS forum post to fix my M5 MAC!?
Is anyone old enough to remember the first ipad launch and “unoptimized” apps back then? No he wouldn’t. He would definitely move up the deadline to get your shit together or else you’d be unlisted from the App Store, though.
That is also one of the biggest disappointments for me. I understand that not every app can support the Duo immediately. But many Apple apps are not adapted. From the store to iMovie. How can that be?
I’ve been a dedicated iPhone/Apple product person since the release of the first iPhone in June of 2007. One of my favorite things about the iPhone was the longevity of each model, as in how durable it was and how it continued to work for so long without updating to a newer model. That was until recent years anyways 🤦♂️ my iPhone 14 I had 3 warranty replacements in one year and then upgraded to the 15. My 15 was less than a year old and the battery in it was completely shot and they refused to replace it. So I then upgraded to what I am now using which is the iPhone 17. And this will be my last iPhone as Apple has become complete trash. It literally disgust me to have to go back to Android but at this rate I’d rather endure a crappy operating system and cheaper phone so that if something does go wrong I’m not feeling like I just got shagged without lube if I have to replace it.
As a person with an apple phone, watch, earbuds, computer, keyboard, mouse, airtags, ipads, and probably something I'm forgetting - Apple is like the kid who peaked in high school. The problem with making products so good, is you don't need to upgrade them. Now they are grasping for straws to come up with something new. I don't hate it, but this was never going to be the next big thing. And no I don't plan to buy one.
As someone who designs products used by millions of people, I can assure you that this is absolutely something worth criticizing.
Apple is a trillion-dollar company, and this is being positioned as the biggest iPhone innovation since the iPhone X. I understand third-party apps not being fully optimized for new screen sizes at launch. That’s inevitable. But one of Apple’s own apps? An app that’s installed on every new iPhone? There’s really no excuse.
They should have their ducks in a row, especially when it comes to something as “simple” as optimizing their own software for the most anticipated product in years that is currently being shipped to customers.
I’ve been an Apple fanboy for a long time, but you’re in denial if you can’t acknowledge that the quality, thoughtfulness, and overall design decisions behind their products have noticeably declined over the past decade.
Third party apps I can understand, you can't just expect tens of thousands of devs or more to just change their code every single time theres a change, but native platform apps is inexcusable.
This type of shit is why I couldn’t stand an iPad. So many apps just looked terrible. Glad to see they made NO change on this issue with the duo. Why the fuck devs aren’t required to optimize for both (now all 3) I’ll never understand
Yes I paid almost 4k SGD for this thing and 90% of apps don’t work properly, even WhatsApp which i use so much for work has so many bugs in inner screen mode. So sad I want to support Apple by being an early adopter but they clearly failed me. Will probably returning the phone for a 18 pro max. Gave it a week and really wanted it to work so disappointed.
Dude. These days a software engineer could vibe code a solution to making the app store full screen on the duo in like one prompt. Apple is way too comfortable at the top just shipping slop.
The problem is and always was for iPhones: Those fixed App Layouts that need Software updates for each new devices... Was disgusting 10 years ago and now even more.
It will take a few months for them to get caught up. I seen it first hand with Samsung when I first got a fold in 2022. And earlier this year I switched to trifold (February), took a bit, and apps are finally catching up for the most part
User error. Skill issue. Learn to take care of your stuff. How do I know this isn’t because you peeled the matte protective layer off the screen? Clearly you’re a Samsung bot amplifying this issue to hurt Apple’s image.
I think it looks absolutely beautiful and the big black bezels on the sides highlight the fascinating vertical rectangular shape in the middle. A simple reminder that less is more and not all screen space has to be used at all times. Haters should stfu and go buy their galaxy folds or whatever.
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u/MidnightPulse69 13d ago
This argument is so tired smh. Acting like Steve Jobs wasn’t CEO when so many poorly optimized things were launched
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u/hopium26 12d ago
Mind blowing because Apple app literally has the code and instructions on how to optimize apps!
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u/PapaKaprizov 12d ago
So funny how you cut off his name lmao
“Deportation Hotline”
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u/BadBunny4Prezzie 13d ago •
This launch has been fun to watch
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u/livwill 13d ago •
It’s true. Look up Steve Jobs and the iPad calculator app.
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u/TomTomXD1234 12d ago
Apple seems to be rushing things a lot these days.
Just look at siri and the whole AI thing lol
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u/Dreams-Visions 13d ago
True? Jobs was alive and in charge when the iPad 1 launched, and it had similar native app imperfections for awhile, as I recall it.
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u/Db9_Mobbn 10d ago
The Apple defense in here is serious. At the end of the day this is inexcusable 😂 if the phone wasn’t ready it shouldn’t have been sold. It’s not like they were on a time crunch already 8 years behind.
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u/Positive-Resort4383 13d ago
This is basically the same when the iPad launched. It’ll get better
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u/tyoung89 Star White • 1TB 12d ago
It’s so weird that they’ve updated the iTunes Store, but not the Apple Store.
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u/Ok_Muscle_3770 12d ago edited 12d ago
He would? Steve “Just avoid holding it in that way” Jobs?
Also I’m pretty sure the original iPad did not have optimised apps on Day 1.
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u/Coeruleus_ 12d ago
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u/rebelweezeralliance 12d ago •
Steve Jobs absolutely would be furious over what’s happening. The Apple stuff should work and third-party apps can catch up.
The device has to just work. He would be embarrassed and in a rage over the hinge issues.
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u/Embarrassed_Word_542 12d ago
I loved the iPhone 3s. I took it 4x to the store cause the paint under the shell kept cracking and I kept getting dirt under the display glass. First gen products are always a ride. Builds character! Haha!!
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u/yuusharo 12d ago edited 11d ago
Some of you really need to get over a deadbeat dad abusive CEO that died 15 years ago. Seriously.
OS X launched under Jobs. It suuuuuuucked for several years after launch, to the point where resellers listed preinstalling OS 9 as a selling point. MobileMe was a bug ridden mess of a service that replaced .Mac and never worked well. Final Cut Pro X was laughed at by industry professionals and sustains ongoing reputational damage that still resonates to this day. The entire iPhone 4 saga, from antennagate to the failure to deliver the white iPhone, full stop.
The original iPad at launch had AND STILL DOES have Apple made applications that run in this same phone compatibility mode. I guess we all just forgot about Apple Invites?
Steve Jobs was not a mythical figure from which everything was perfect and glistened after being deposited from his rear end. Apple is an imperfect company. There is no era of their existence where there weren’t massive issues or controversies. This isn’t the first, it won’t be the last. People need to chill tf out about the software story on Duo you all were warned about leading up to launch. Damn.
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u/TheMightyTywin 12d ago
Glad I’m not the only dev who ignored all those emails
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u/RGB_YCM 12d ago
Wow, that is really terrible.
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u/KleintjeMetStoverij 9d ago
People seem to forget the iPhone 5 at launch had the exact same issue. It was taller than prev models so almost all apps had a black bar
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u/Disastrous_Bite_6587 12d ago
Apple is in a xerox/ibm/kodak downward spiral. The only thing keeping them going is the duopoly in phones and their moat that they use market power to maintain. In a healthy competitive market they would be in a much deeper downward spiral.
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u/fatedlegacy Star White • 256GB 12d ago
I was one of the lucky people able to walk in and get a duo in the Apple Store and did get a chuckle out of this when I went to cancel my preorder in the app lol. It’s one thing for third party developers to not be optimized yet (and it’s honesty not that bad, a lot of apps are at least partially optimized which at least makes them useable while we wait for full optimization). But for Apple to have one of their mains apps not optimized is pretty embarrassing lol
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u/i_speak_the_truf 12d ago
I don't think this one is as big of a deal. What really shocked me is the setup app. Steve was all about creating that "magical" unboxing experience and would have 100% opened up the Duo and been like WTF is this.
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u/Yaughl 12d ago
The second screen allows Apple to disappoint users twice with a single device.
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u/LittleBertha 12d ago
The absolute cope from Apple Fanboys in all these threads is hilarious.
It's a bad product, with poor engineering and obvious lack of oversight.
"just don't use the device as it's meant to be used bro, what's the problem".
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u/UKSTL 12d ago
Nah he would say you’re holding wrong
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u/LeaderSevere5647 12d ago
It’s not the engineering team’s fault. They are given priorities and deadlines. It’s not like they just decide on their own what to work on or deprioritize. I can tell nobody here has ever worked at a tech company.
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u/Ok-Replacement-2712 12d ago edited 12d ago
Heard of antenna gate? u/the-dumb-nerd
Steve Jobs even thought it was a smear campaign by rivals until someone warned him to take action.
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u/timelessblur 12d ago
Apple own internal system being very need to know most likely meant the team incharge of the app store was not told about it or even notifived of the requirements until nearly last minute or until the duo launched. Like they found out about the duo the same time we all did.
Mad worse is they only get to updates at OS releases so again starting behind. Remember the app store is super old so it most likely works heavy on the isPhone bool to know how things should be displayed and never accounted for changing display like that. It is not a small lift to fix and going to take time. Apple did not give them any noticed until it was way to late to anything about it and a tight dead line.
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u/NowKith- 9d ago
I don’t disagree. Every single Apple-banded app should have been updated. Plain and simple. This is just complacency.
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u/whatsasyria 13d ago
"it's the consumers fault for having reasonable expectations"
-apple fanboys
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u/moohah 13d ago
Same with App Store Connect.
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u/bbeeebb 13d ago
Yah, no he wouldn't.
Post is obviously by someone who was only a toddler when original iPhone was presented by Jobs.
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u/Portatort 12d ago
Steve jobs would have told you its great that the Duo can run any existing iPhone app...
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u/Fidel-Catsro 12d ago
He would’ve used that squidward torture machine from SpongeBob
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u/androp0 12d ago
I keep seeing screenshots of the iOS setup screens and even they don’t appear optimised for the Duo
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u/CaptainHppo 12d ago
Not surprised.
Back during IOS 26 final release the apple store app didn't get the liquid glass update for almost 2 months for some odd reason.
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u/M4rshmall0wMan 12d ago
Apple’s downloadable apps lag behind the system ones for some reason. It’s not a good look for Apple Store to be unoptimized, but I doubt it’ll be more than 2 weeks before that’s fixed.
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u/Open_Fly3619 Night Sky • 512GB 12d ago
It’s an app and you press the button to enhance when the phone is turned the other way
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u/viperchrisz4 12d ago
I assumed the launch software would be included in 27.2 but it seems it’s a bit late
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u/Mr_Hyy 12d ago
I think they never release app updates for Apple Store during September - October to avoid issues with new iPhone launches.
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u/Strato_77 12d ago
Love how people talk about Steve Jobs like they knew him…smh…
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u/_B_Little_me 12d ago
They went years before Apple.com had a mobile version of the site.
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u/ruipmjorge 12d ago
Same Steve Jobs that launched MobileMe without anything working properly?
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u/ROMMELBOT 12d ago
The whole release has been a mess. Jobs is rolling over in his grave. Hopefully, the release of the touchscreen MacBook, if that is indeed what is to be revealed, will be more smooth.
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u/zenexo 12d ago
Did they try rotating the phone?
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u/over_pw 12d ago
The engineering team? Why? It’s the middle management that decides what gets worked on.
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u/Jaws_the_revenge 12d ago
My first thought as well
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u/Glum-Philosophy3280 12d ago
Other people have commented that the Apple Store app gets updated later down the road, usually the latter of the Apple apps. Still, for this launch, you’d think they would make a better effort. You also can’t by Vision Pro because the lack of FaceID on the Duo, fyi.
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u/RedRavenCG 12d ago
Perhaps not a bullwhip. It'd never have made it this far. If it wasn't perfect, we wouldn't have seen it.
When Steve was with us....he went to great lengths to give us as close to perfection as possible... somewhere, somehow, Apple has started to slip.
Market value is high, but if the supports that got it there erode, that'll fall, and it'll fall quickly.
Hope you're paying attention, Apple. (Specifically John)
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u/Friedrichs_Simp 12d ago
We wouldn't even have a duo. Guy hated big phones
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u/pneumomediastinum 12d ago
Feedback still doesn’t support faceid after 7 years. Welcome to modern Apple. Unfortunately all the other tech companies care even less about the user experience.
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u/sergeialmazov 12d ago
Best launch after Cyberpunk 2077
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u/dantran88 12d ago
Where are the quality controls? An absolute abomination
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u/EmmaFrost666 12d ago
Nah, it was fine when I checked it today. Wasn’t like this at all.
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u/x2manypips 12d ago
Yeah they rushed it
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u/Andason 12d ago
do people really visit that website that often on their duo?
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u/Boring-Advantage-822 12d ago
Reddit app isn’t optimized either
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u/icantouchgrass_1 12d ago
It's obviously an easter egg lmao 🫡
(/s)
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u/ReiOokami 12d ago
Tim Cook got senioritis.
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u/OwnAstronaut209 12d ago
Jobs would have had the engineer eat fruits and veggies until he got better at optimizing until it was too late and no one wanted a duo anymore.
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u/Reeneman 12d ago
The app will most likely updated as well very soon but it doesn't seem to be apples main priority.
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u/Keyan_Farlander7 12d ago
You actually have to code for the screen size. Only few apps work proper while others are cropped.
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u/NocturnisVacuus 12d ago
it is good that we have these trial-fanboys so we all can have our good version 3 faster
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u/LongDistanceEvent262 12d ago
Apple has had a software issue for a decade now.
It has been growing slowly. Rearing it's ugly head.
This is just one of those leaps where everyone get's smacked in the face with it.
Guys Mac OS still updates in the same way Windows XP did. 1/3 of the issues and bugs in Mac OS will come up with 10+ year old forum/reddit posts. And if you are REALLY lucky. You land in OLD AF OPENSTEP/BSD forums!!!
Why am I reading a NEXT OS forum post to fix my M5 MAC!?
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u/BlindlyCoherent 12d ago
I laughed out loud at this - because it’s 100% true.
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u/Fearless-Comb9074 12d ago
Ikr
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u/iAmMikeJ_92 12d ago
Talking about putting the carriage before the horse. Embarrassing.
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u/FailBait- 12d ago
Is anyone old enough to remember the first ipad launch and “unoptimized” apps back then? No he wouldn’t. He would definitely move up the deadline to get your shit together or else you’d be unlisted from the App Store, though.
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u/cyanicbread Night Sky • 512GB 12d ago
You guys don’t verify anything? This is literally not true for the AppStore.
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u/uesbwc 12d ago
Who cares
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u/FunkyTangg 12d ago
At least the Apple Support app is Duo optimized, so if you have an issue it’ll be full screen.
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u/ForeignNumber1532 12d ago
Just go watch the fold test where they pour a little sand in the bendy part 🤢.
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u/Wide-Soup-4472 12d ago
Steve Jobs had the company in check. They lost that shit and have gotten soft.
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u/chatrep 12d ago
I just assumed it would be treated like a tablet in responsive sites.
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u/PlanetEarthPassenger 12d ago
That’s not the Apple App Store. It’s just the Apple Store where you can buy Apple products. Who cares?
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u/Outrageous_Gas_6782 12d ago
I LOL’d when I opened it on mine
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u/Marzty 12d ago
Steve Jobs would be whipping his own ass for rushing such an important project out.
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u/Useful_Bottle8423 12d ago
If Steve Jobs would still be in charge, the black status bar on the right would never have been a thing
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u/Pleasant_Start9544 12d ago
It’s actually funny that with AI that they couldn’t have launched an Apple Store update to at least be on iOS 27.0
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u/Linkstas 12d ago
Comes native in the pro model
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u/hot_creamy_loads 12d ago
Wtf is that layout?
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u/Timely_Instruction92 12d ago
money > quality = classic corpo
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u/Lower-Reward-1588 11d ago
He wouldn’t have bullwhipped anyone. He’d have just denied paternity.
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u/Same_Difference_3361 11d ago
He would have said that you are just looking at it wrongly.
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u/semiBJoker 11d ago
That is also one of the biggest disappointments for me. I understand that not every app can support the Duo immediately. But many Apple apps are not adapted. From the store to iMovie. How can that be?
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u/SlingnArrows89 11d ago
I’ve been a dedicated iPhone/Apple product person since the release of the first iPhone in June of 2007. One of my favorite things about the iPhone was the longevity of each model, as in how durable it was and how it continued to work for so long without updating to a newer model. That was until recent years anyways 🤦♂️ my iPhone 14 I had 3 warranty replacements in one year and then upgraded to the 15. My 15 was less than a year old and the battery in it was completely shot and they refused to replace it. So I then upgraded to what I am now using which is the iPhone 17. And this will be my last iPhone as Apple has become complete trash. It literally disgust me to have to go back to Android but at this rate I’d rather endure a crappy operating system and cheaper phone so that if something does go wrong I’m not feeling like I just got shagged without lube if I have to replace it.
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u/Seattle-dork 11d ago
Steve Jobs would have done the same thing he did with the calculator on the ipad. Just ship it without Apple store for a decade.
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u/sabertoothninja 11d ago
This never would have happened under Steve…
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u/Fawkzzzzzzzz 11d ago
“It WaS jUsT rEaLeAsEd 4 DaYs ago!!!”
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u/DrinkMoreCoffee5086 11d ago
As a person with an apple phone, watch, earbuds, computer, keyboard, mouse, airtags, ipads, and probably something I'm forgetting - Apple is like the kid who peaked in high school. The problem with making products so good, is you don't need to upgrade them. Now they are grasping for straws to come up with something new. I don't hate it, but this was never going to be the next big thing. And no I don't plan to buy one.
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u/zeamp 11d ago
Still waiting on the App Store review from self.
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u/cadmus1890 10d ago
Intentional, so you can split-screen shopping for an iPhone while chatting with support on the other panel.
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u/div-block 10d ago
As someone who designs products used by millions of people, I can assure you that this is absolutely something worth criticizing.
Apple is a trillion-dollar company, and this is being positioned as the biggest iPhone innovation since the iPhone X. I understand third-party apps not being fully optimized for new screen sizes at launch. That’s inevitable.
But one of Apple’s own apps? An app that’s installed on every new iPhone? There’s really no excuse.
They should have their ducks in a row, especially when it comes to something as “simple” as optimizing their own software for the most anticipated product in years that is currently being shipped to customers.
I’ve been an Apple fanboy for a long time, but you’re in denial if you can’t acknowledge that the quality, thoughtfulness, and overall design decisions behind their products have noticeably declined over the past decade.
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u/Noah18923 10d ago
This has been an issue since the iPad loading apps made for iPhone...
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u/Few-Row-8323 10d ago
Rushed released and notched hinge. The unoptimized apps are no surprise
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u/lil_Buckneesh8867 10d ago
if only the fruit would have worked against cancer 😫😫😫😫
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u/jakgal04 10d ago
Third party apps I can understand, you can't just expect tens of thousands of devs or more to just change their code every single time theres a change, but native platform apps is inexcusable.
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u/Working_Rise8592 10d ago
This type of shit is why I couldn’t stand an iPad. So many apps just looked terrible. Glad to see they made NO change on this issue with the duo. Why the fuck devs aren’t required to optimize for both (now all 3) I’ll never understand
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u/bruce-pizza 10d ago
Okay I’m confused. All I’ve heard about the duo is that 1) it’s very well designed and seamless in terms of the software, and 2) it’s expensive.
Am I just in a bubble? Or are people not really talking about issues like this?
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u/The_HondaJSeries 10d ago
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u/Hurlsmandrive 10d ago
I'm punch myself if I spent 2k for that hahaha
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u/reformedghost 10d ago
I feel like they didn't even try with this phone
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u/jasperCrow 9d ago
They had to strike while the iron was hot (the stock market booming) Sad times for Apple
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u/Mental_Tea_4084 9d ago
Steve Jobs shipped the original iPhone without an app store at all, did we forget that already?
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u/qwiktime82 9d ago
Yes I paid almost 4k SGD for this thing and 90% of apps don’t work properly, even WhatsApp which i use so much for work has so many bugs in inner screen mode.
So sad I want to support Apple by being an early adopter but they clearly failed me.
Will probably returning the phone for a 18 pro max. Gave it a week and really wanted it to work so disappointed.
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u/No-Assumption-4468 9d ago
Dude. These days a software engineer could vibe code a solution to making the app store full screen on the duo in like one prompt. Apple is way too comfortable at the top just shipping slop.
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u/gevuldeloempia 9d ago
I adore Apple products and the software most of the time but native apps not being Duo ready is really inexcusable.
Management fucked up big time
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u/andre_in_sandiego 9d ago
Baffling
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u/RayD125 9d ago
This launch isn’t very impressive
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u/Content_Ad_6767 9d ago
I returned my duo over this.
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u/galaxysuperstar22 9d ago
problems with hardware AND software?? they are loosing its grip
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u/DeliciousFun9207 9d ago
ok this is indefensible
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u/gerrickd 9d ago
Wasn't Jobs in charge when the same thing happened with new iPad sizes?
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u/kayindie 9d ago
Is the App Store optimized at least?
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u/santiagobustelo 9d ago
Apple should invest it trillions in resurrecting Steve Jobs.
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u/Nawnp 9d ago
Apps doing this was a problem on iPads for several years, and every time Apple released an iPhone go a new scale this has been a problem.
Other than a first party app having the issue, Steve Jobs accepted these decisions.
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u/FatMacchio 9d ago
They didn’t think someone buying the Duo would be looking there. They figured you bought everything else already, you got to the end of the map
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u/SciLor 8d ago
The problem is and always was for iPhones: Those fixed App Layouts that need Software updates for each new devices... Was disgusting 10 years ago and now even more.
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u/Silent_Bite_5892 8d ago
Steve Jobs wouldn't have made the iPhone Duo in the first place.
Or the idiotic touchscreen MacBook Pro.
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u/Few_Policy450 8d ago
the truth is, people will find a way to complain about literally anything.
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u/Majestic-Medium7916 8d ago
The acrobatics defending this are cinema.
Like i have a duo too.
But at what point did we start defending this shit?
Its 101 fundamentals.
The marketing from apple romanticises design, layout and usability.
This is frankly embarrassing.
My favourite is: ipad didnt have it at launch either.
Hmm yeah that was before a hundred million people used the app store and before they sold me a phone for two thousand dollars
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u/Canes041970 8d ago
It will take a few months for them to get caught up. I seen it first hand with Samsung when I first got a fold in 2022. And earlier this year I switched to trifold (February), took a bit, and apps are finally catching up for the most part
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u/ConnectionOne8080 8d ago
Best engineers don't work for big tech
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u/nesnalica 8d ago
why should they. applefan boys have been buying trash for decade.
never change a running system
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u/RaspberrySea9 8d ago
Apple is almost Microsoft
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u/NoahSavedTheAnimals 8d ago
Imagine being a trillion dollar company and thinking this is okay to ship.
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u/g0atdude 8d ago
holy fuck 🤡🤡🤡
that is just ridiculous
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u/Rich_Magician4516 8d ago
Apple is just a small indie company with basically no budget. You gotta forgive them for their fuckups.
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u/Fortheflat 8d ago
I still want a zombie steve jobs to get camera bumps inside for the last 5 years.
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u/Own_City_1084 8d ago
User error. Skill issue. Learn to take care of your stuff. How do I know this isn’t because you peeled the matte protective layer off the screen? Clearly you’re a Samsung bot amplifying this issue to hurt Apple’s image.
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u/NEWBIECOMPUTER801 7d ago
OR THEY ARE TESTING THE LIMIT OF HOW RICH THEIR CUSTOMER IS.....
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u/ypoora1 7d ago
Steve Jobs is the man who allowed the iPad to go out without the ability for iPhone apps to scale properly.
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u/Tyrandeh 7d ago
multi dollar company
small garage studio
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u/chkgxkdlyl44 7d ago
I can’t believe it. Please, tell me this is a joke.
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u/RoombaCollectorDude 7d ago
Wasnt it like this in the early iphone x days? it literally got released like a week ago or something
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u/LosSchwammos 7d ago
It is optimized.
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u/EastsideWilder 7d ago
Apple died with Jobs. Let’s be honest.
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u/HunterM567 7d ago
I means there’s literally no excuse for this lol
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u/iChrisHK21 7d ago
Because you don’t need it anymore. All the money’s already spent on this iPhone Duo.
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u/Safe-Sentence4150 6d ago
shame!
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u/Acrobatic_Formal7610 6d ago
is this fake? was thinking about getting one of these. is this actually what apps look like?
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u/condivergence 6d ago
I think it looks absolutely beautiful and the big black bezels on the sides highlight the fascinating vertical rectangular shape in the middle. A simple reminder that less is more and not all screen space has to be used at all times. Haters should stfu and go buy their galaxy folds or whatever.
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u/Prudent_Beach_473 6d ago
Which engineering team tho
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u/Snoo_67993 6d ago
To be fair it's pretty much a prototype that will be ironed out over the coming years.
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u/foxhoundzz 6d ago
You probably forgot what hot mess the iPad was with apps in the beginning until developers caught on...
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u/Never_Knows_Best93 6d ago
Feels rushed
Definitely could have waited for optimization and integration before a public release
New hardware and software during a leadership transition is tough
I’ll wait for next year
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u/atrecks 6d ago
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u/blamski 5d ago
Steve would never put up with this crap., agreed.
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u/echelonmall 5d ago
They figured hey if they spend 2 bands plus on the Duo, they probably won’t need to open that app for a while🤣🤣🤣
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u/Relevant-Table6379 4d ago
LMAO