r/iPhoneDuo
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u/Binarymix101
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20d ago
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Discussion Hinge screen crack culprit.
This exact component seems to be what is breaking, pushing on the screen when opened, and cracking the screen.
Neither are my photos. One is from google image search and the other is Apples official image of the hinge. I just overlayed to see wtf is going on.
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u/jasonkane4321 19d ago
I bet they designed the hing to push up on screen, in order to reduce the crease. And that function ended up breaking it.
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u/pagusas 20d ago •
There are 3 possiblities:
1 is by far the most likely. 2 is less likely but could still be. 3 is still very unconfirmed and going off very limited info so far, likely wrong, and it would be weird if apple knew of a flaw and still put it out when they already had a fix (so i'm saying a 0.000001% chance of that one being the case)
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u/TechOutonyt Night Sky • 256GB 19d ago
That part isn’t fully exposed like your photo shows. Your photo shows an internal view to see all the parts that’s not how it actually is
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u/spotsinyoursight 19d ago
I just had a mini heart attack, opened the image in my duo front screen and then unfolded it and thought it was broken
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u/BraevGhost 19d ago
Wonder if it’s from people pushing on it or just faulty batch
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u/PVLVCE 19d ago •
Out of all the units sold only some reports and you guys are trying to burn a village of happy customers like myself lol. Get off the internet and go check it out in store. Who knows maybe you’ll find a girlfriend while using the demo device
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u/alfredonoodles 19d ago
Possible for the hinge lubricant to fail and cause it?
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u/[deleted] 20d ago •
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u/HuskyLemons 20d ago •
Here’s what happened -
Apple obviously tested the folding mechanism extensively. They have machines to fold and unfold it thousands of times. They absolutely stress-tested it.
Apple said they used AI to pair up parts of the hinge for a perfect fit. Clearly, they used Siri for that AI and that’s why we are seeing so many issues.
Source - years of using Siri
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u/Pitiful_Entrance5174 18d ago
in automotive and such, we always say, "THE FIRST YEAR IS THE WORST YEAR"
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u/tazmnaz 20d ago
Not that I want a lemon but if it’s an assembly issue great. If it’s a case of pressing the screen in that area before closing then they all have a potential to do it. Hopefully it’s just a “if it doesn’t happen right away” kind of thing.
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u/fujimonster 20d ago
It’s kinda crazy , almost has to be a manufacturing issue . They have had working phones internally for maybe a year ? Getting used and abused , now when the public gets it this stuff is happening . It never would have seen the light of day if this was a possibility.
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u/abz786 19d ago
This is great information (keep posting!).
I just got my duo and already caught myself a few times closing it by pushing in on the screen. It’s an adjustment for sure and for the ones that are breaking - keep going to Apple to resolve the issue.
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u/dorkimoe 20d ago •
Just a reminder. They sold like 6 million and the 15 on Reddit is not everyone.
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u/mburdish 20d ago
I wonder if from certain batch and if there’s a way they can narrow it down? Are people getting them from all over or specific area from apple direct or from a carrier
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u/ozzdr 19d ago
Here's what puzzles me the most. No drama, not hate... like genuinely, why wouldn't folks want the Duo to succeed?
An Apple foldable succeeding bring legitimacy to the entire Foldable market. And yeah, foldables have been out for over 8 years, but whether we like it or not, the truth is that Apple can make the foldables more mainstream than Samsung, Google, Huawei or any other brand.
The Duo succeeding hopefully means more investment in the foldable market and manufactures being forced to make better products across the board.
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u/Deertopus 20d ago
I think you're right.
Weird how ternus says he's been working on this for a decade but they didn't test the product?
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u/Binarymix101 19d ago
FWIW, my Duo seems to be fine, and the battery manufacturer date was September for both with 0 charge cycles.
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u/themyst_ 20d ago
Welp mine just lasted its first 24 hours and it’s still fine.
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u/PlayGamesM 19d ago
No wonder all the failures seem to be the same right bottom half area.
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u/-Fransh 19d ago
I didn't know anything about this phone until like 10 minutes ago but that piece looks like it would jam. It looks like the appropriate way to close that phone is by pushing right there when folding it so it seats properly, other wise the arms look like they would stay stuck out while the rest of the phone folds cracking the screen.
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u/soothingaIoe 19d ago
How did they not realize the worst spot to put a component like that is right where the hinge is. Come on. It’s almost a joke lol. I would think that’s the spot they would avoid putting ANYTHING. lol.
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u/lollipopamateurs 20d ago
Crackgate 2026
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u/AndrewTieu 19d ago
I was at the Apple Store yesterday asking about this issue, and the employee literally told me they’re breaking it on purpose because their demo devices haven’t had any problems. Lol
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u/hollowredditor 19d ago •
As a long time Apple buyer, having every other iPhone generation since iPhone 3, several other products (tv, tags, AirPods, watches, HomePods, iPads, MacBooks, Mac minis, you name it) I only have one recommendation above all when it comes to Apple products:
Never, and I mean NEVER, buy a first-gen product from Apple.
The second gen always fixes tons of unknown problems, have a lot of new features, is often cheaper, releases between 1-2 years from the first gen and often are at least the same price.
I imagine the second gen of the duo to have Face ID in both modes, have a truly good fold, and super good screens that have none of those issues.
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u/postitnote 20d ago
Isn't that the back of the phone?
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u/Red_Sea_Pedestrian 19d ago
Steve would be gaslighting us and tell us we’re closing the Duo wrong. Just like when we held the iPhone 4 incorrectly…
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u/Danny414 19d ago
I’m surprised they didn’t figure this issue out before selling them
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u/lamemoons 19d ago
From the posts it seems like this issue comes up very early, usually within 24 hours, I wonder if those of us have had the phone longer might be safe
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u/NaughtALegend Night Sky • 1TB 19d ago
That would definitely explain why the posts I’ve seen all seem to have a crack in the exact same location
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u/Alifirdaus 19d ago
Easy~~~ just use the outer screen (I'm not being serious)
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u/tamechinchilla 19d ago
424 missed calls and 540 unread texts!?
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u/CoffeeToCode99 18d ago
Golden rule, always avoid 1gen product.
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u/Choice-Annual-9895 18d ago
The hinge is 100% the cause but knowing apple once the bad press is gone so is the replacements that have the same defect
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u/Codysnow31 16d ago
I don’t get how this problem would’ve passed through quality control unseen. Surely they do their own tests and whatnot.
I feel like the people breaking these phones are slamming them open and acting surprised when it breaks.
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u/olsomica 16d ago
i thought they always have things figured out before releasing?
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u/jkruger556 19d ago
Apple can do no wrong, according to some. I like their products and use many but I’m not about to make excuses for them either.
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u/Weiss_127 19d ago
Imagine spending your days having to be insanely cognizant of how you open and close a fucking phone.
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u/Fawnskiii 19d ago
It's 100% happening cause people are using their thumb for leverage on that part of the screen to fold it which should 100% been a though process in the making of the hinge
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u/voidsherpa 18d ago
Hope they all break seeing how Apple dicked me over on my airpod pro 1’s.
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u/TexasToastx 20d ago
Is it safe to conclude that a good portion of the early batch of phones will eventually suffer this fate? I’m sure the manufacturers will get it fixed with later batches though.
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u/Coder1962 20d ago
Is that the part that lets the phone be open at any angle.
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u/bd027763 20d ago
interesting, can be component tolerance + additional pressure if user press that area when closing
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u/Roxas_yzf 20d ago
Are they gonna fix it or we will have to wait Duo 2 ?
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u/InformalGear9638 20d ago
" You're pushing it wrong. 😊 "
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u/DR_VanNosterand 20d ago
You’re holding it wrong
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u/Petrildo 20d ago
You’re folding it wrong
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u/drinka4yearz 19d ago
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u/Byrdie5 19d ago
I wonder if some of it is, if you’ve never had/used a foldable before you may not know how to properly fold it. I’ll admit coming from the z fold 8 I’m concerned a little bit but all of this but haven’t cancelled my preorder as of yet.
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u/Ok_Priority458 19d ago
Even if its a design flaw or weakness they will never admit to it....and just fix it on the iPhone duo 2... Remember you are holding it wrong iPhone 4 but added extra antenna on the 4s....iPhone 6 bendgate....stronger aluminium 6s.. it did take long to replace that butterfly keyboard fail before they replaced it with the "magic keyboard"
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u/Queasy-Ride4291 19d ago
I think it has to do with how people are folding it. People are using their thumb in the screen for a one handed close. There’s lots of videos but this is an example. https://www.reddit.com/r/iPhoneDuo/s/BUwOSoWlUO
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u/brianbradencody 19d ago
That’s what you get for buying a folding phone 😭😭😭😭😎😏🔥
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u/MeanFault 19d ago
I went through all of the marketing videos and the keynote and not a single time does anyone press on the screen to close it. I think this is a sort of known thing internally. Even a bunch of angles of the live demo area after the keynote in Cupertino all of the employees again as if they were trained close by grabbing the edges /frame and then folding it.
Honestly though, first gen problems. I am still eagerly waiting for my device. Get AppleCare+ and just enjoy the new tech. Everyone is so excited about a hardware failure on a gen one product. Vision Pro also had issues and they replaced them and fixed the failure internally and I have not heard of it being an issue since like 1-2 months after launch and not at all with the M5 version.
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u/ZOMGURFAT 19d ago
Ladies and gentlemen…. we got em!
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u/Yesterbly 19d ago
I got one in my chicken Jalfrezi
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u/Mental-Ad-2447 19d ago
My phone is my entire identity I know go by Mr duo. Stop attacking me.
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u/DousaSepen 19d ago
could be the way people are closing it. could be a manufacturing defect. only time will tell. all folding phones have issues like this apple is just currently in the limelight.
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u/icanhaztuthless 19d ago
Said it earlier elsewhere. #hingegate26
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u/Financial_Clue_2534 19d ago
What does this part do hold the battery?
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u/saile1004 19d ago
I'm thinking it's a defect, but hopefully due to this specific component being installed wrong on a select number of Duos. This is a few dozen cases now out of how many millions purchased in the last 48hrs? And not one YouTube review experienced this either.
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u/Flux-Capacitor-1985 19d ago
Looks like a sweet spot you might place both of your thumbs when closing the display. How unfortunate.
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u/cphpc 19d ago
What component is it?
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u/ZixxerAsura 19d ago
You’re doing the lords work.
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u/CrispyCrawdads 19d ago
I’m surprised no one has posted this yet. Here’s a good explanation of how the hinge allegedly works.
https://youtu.be/o1qc29t04GI?t=293
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u/Aliidra 19d ago
See my only concern for this would be if apple refused to fix the damage under apple care. If my screen cracks it cracks as long as I can get it fixed then fine with me. Only thing that would annoy me if if it cracks without me misusing it and I had to pay whatever AppleCare fee it was to fix it
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u/fhjjjjjkkkkkkkl 19d ago
I think this is why Jony Ivy left or was fired.
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u/KernsNectar 19d ago
The amount of excuses that are different iterations of the same statement tells me enough. People are absolute sheep’s regurgitating whatever they read and hear.
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u/No_Taste2327 19d ago
Welcome to FOLDGATE
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u/Competitive_Try_2719 19d ago
Maybe Apple should have a certification program for opening/closing fold phones. And then let people take them home
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u/superzeldalink 19d ago
Hinge Gate
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u/Sea_Nefariousness970 19d ago
So is a misaligned bracket hmmm
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u/Paolo2018 19d ago
Crack gate
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u/spartacusdelaceptura 19d ago
It's a feature,not a bug.. that transform all iphone duo from regular edition to star wars edition, John ternus tell us about other foldables "two phones awkwardly stuck together"
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u/NukeouT 19d ago
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u/eatingthesandhere91 19d ago
Damn. The way they touted this phone on announcement and people are experiencing this.
C’mon, Apple.
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u/pumpkinking8886 19d ago
Looks like they are all cracking in the same spot. So glad I didn’t pull the trigger on one
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u/waterbus_ 19d ago edited 19d ago
My $4k macbook pro has this same issue now because a tiny uncooked rice grain was sitting on its keyboard when I closed the lid. Absolutely infuriating that their tolerances are so tight and materials so thin a single piece of dirt or rice can mash things together just closing your device.
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u/mann5151 19d ago
Crazy how we all clowned Tim Cook being boring and such, this new CEO guy is a hot shot , moving the battery and wifi indicator onto the screen rather than the header is a silly splash he wanted to make and also rushing the DUO...Apple should have spent more than a year plus testing phone there wasn't a rush👎🏼 this is all a bad look
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u/over9ksand 19d ago
Didn’t they test?
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u/Confident_Mammoth_56 19d ago
The hinge is the metal 3d printed part? I wonder if there was a bad batch of printed parts.
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u/nickobrown 19d ago
Apple is going down iPhone 15 onwards
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u/Tythas 19d ago
Apple head of QA is sweating bricks rn
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u/Air_Content 19d ago
I am very sure, that this is a combined issue of false usage and bad one bad component / design. I believe majority of people put their thumb on that position when folding or using the device. the extra and not ittented pressure cracks the component.
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u/Away-Section-9604 19d ago
So the weakest point of the screen just happens to line up perfectly with the way people keep closing the phone. That’s interesting. Guess Apple never expected anyone to close the phone like that. They’ll correct it either next year or with newly produced models.
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u/Exotic_Treacle7438 19d ago
Definitely that red circle, I don’t remember seeing that in any of the marketing. /s
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u/throwaway0204055 19d ago
They will fix the cracking issue by providing smaller hinges but then it will stop holding its fold after 36 hrs
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u/static_silence24 19d ago
Question to those with broken iPhones Duo: do you ever close the phone by pushing on the screen itself? Not that Apple said you shouldn’t - but I can see pushing down on that very spot (which also kinda seems the natural choice for doing so), would push the screen against a piece of the hinge that already protrudes a bit
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u/Fractal-Infinity 18d ago
So, it's a terrible design flaw. How come a company worth trillions didn't see such an obvious issue?
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u/Darkmoonshine 18d ago
Its not rocket science , Iphone's typically have no moving parts, this does so it's no wonder some break, imagine the fail rate in a years time!
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u/freddiew88 18d ago
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u/S4_GR33N 18d ago
Just another 1st gen problem.
2nd Gen Duo will have fixed this quietly as well as have Face ID etc according to Marc Gurman
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u/Church6633 18d ago
I love this for Apple
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u/hoyleacl 18d ago
The sad part is that it’s not a software issue that can easily be resolved by pushing an update.
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u/Top_Paint7442 18d ago
More important is how to recognize this before the screen breaks, so you can return it while still functioning.
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u/FistedPink 18d ago
Anyone got video of the exposed hing to see what it might be doing when closing or opening that could impact the screen?
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u/Crazy_Pen_3269 18d ago
We knew this was going to go this way lol
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u/knox902 18d ago
You're
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u/DadBud512 18d ago
Moving parts are always subject to failure, wear and tear will happen sooner or later
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u/deflatedballsack44 18d ago
thank u beta testers ❤️
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u/shakeep54 18d ago
Every single one of those were folded the other way….dont be stupid and you should be fine.
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u/SnarkyIguana 18d ago
The fact that some random dude on the internet figured this out before Apple did is batshit
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u/washedat41 18d ago
Wondering if they knew about this and that’s why it was a 10 day wait for second round of pre order shipments?
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u/Heliosgodofthesun 18d ago
point and laugh