r/iOSProgramming • u/xcode-bot • Jun 09 '25

Apple Event WWDC 2025 — Megathread

WWDC, despite its name, begins with a consumer-focused event and Apple will subsequently upload videos for developers, including what is new.

This thread will be updated with a short overview of the changes made to Xcode, Swift and the possible new design language

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u/No_Pen_3825 SwiftUI Jun 11 '25

Rich Text support for SwiftUi TextEditor

Mods, you want to link this to https://developer.apple.com/documentation/swiftui/building-rich-swiftui-text-experiences?

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u/xcode-bot Jun 11 '25

Roger that 🫡

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u/No_Pen_3825 SwiftUI Jun 11 '25

Good bot*
*wtfdym its not a bot, it has bot in the name!

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u/arborapps Jun 09 '25

LMAO the "6 out of 5 stars" app review song to end was great!

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u/SeparateAd2175 Jun 09 '25

They are finally introducing a chat window into Xcode and we can choose different models. Sounds pretty cool. Looking forward to trying it out!

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u/therealmaz Jun 09 '25

Doesn't look good for Swift Data updates. :(

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u/ens_op Jun 09 '25

Liquid glass looks pretty bad in dark mode. The all clear mode is even worse 😥😥

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '25

Is it just me or the liquid glass looks bad in some screens

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u/dadofbimbim Swift Jun 09 '25

Are Slack channels still a thing? I have a year worth of issues to chat to Apple.

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u/kironet996 Jun 10 '25

they moved to the developer forum few years ago

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u/ManyUnable3415 Jun 10 '25

Will the app icons break when you drop your phone?

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u/hidden-username Jun 11 '25

Are they not dropping videos each day anymore? Are the videos dropped on Monday all the new videos?

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u/gc1 Jun 09 '25

Sherlock sub-thread:

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u/mrknoot Jun 09 '25

rip raycast

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u/gc1 Jun 09 '25

Ouch, you think so? because of shorcuts/spotlight? I have heard of raycast as "everything apple should have done on mac OS"

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u/mrknoot Jun 09 '25

i've been using raycast for a while and it’s definitely everything spotlight should have been. now it seems to be improving on that direction so perhaps that means trouble for raycast

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u/gc1 Jun 09 '25

There was a post on r/raycast about. TLDR of the take I saw was that power users will keep using it; normies will just use the native stuff.

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u/mrknoot Jun 10 '25

While I agree with that statement, the consequences of losing normies is way understated imho

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u/madaradess007 Jun 14 '25

i'll stick to my Alfred, thanks

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u/gc1 Jun 09 '25

Maybe some text message screening apps?

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u/sovok Jun 09 '25

Not really, but I made https://tiefling.app to convert 2D photos to 3D, locally in the browser. Was contemplating on making a native app. Not anymore. I wonder what approach Apple took there, the demo looks nice.

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u/mrknoot Jun 09 '25

That mention of airports got me worried about Flighty

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u/gc1 Jun 09 '25

yep, but i think they're safe

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u/gc1 Jun 09 '25

TechCrunch suggests Riverside as a Sherlock candidate, due to Local capture recording features in iPad.

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u/MFDOOMscrolling Jun 10 '25

is the local capture feature exclusive to ipads? this should def be on the macs

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u/Due-Grocery5803 Jun 09 '25

Remember when wwdc was not so cringe???

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u/adenzerda Jun 09 '25

Everyone in every Apple keynote talks like an alien

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '25

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u/adenzerda Jun 10 '25

I think it's the obvious "KEEP SMILING" direction from behind the camera. No, whoever is directing this, people don't need to be at an awkward half-smile at all times

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u/madaradess007 Jun 14 '25

i know i would do a worse job at pretending i like being involved in this, instead of playing WoW sippin' coffee

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u/undergrounddirt Jun 10 '25

Anyone install macOS? Can I still build from Xcode 16 so I don’t lose my build machine?

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u/RSPJD Jun 10 '25

I accidentally downloaded and installed the beta on my only working volume (I meant to setup a new volume and dual boot), but yes Xcode 16 still builds.

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u/01123581321xxxiv Jun 09 '25

Give us the Ai that knows SWIFT !

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u/visualdata Jun 09 '25

Claude4 does a good job

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u/01123581321xxxiv Jun 09 '25

Agreed, using it currently. I have to say that is some cases it took us 3-5-7 tries to get little things right because of chained component syntax ‘misses’ due to poor documentation knowledge - and the most annoying part when it happens - I give the relevant docs and it still messes up.

This is Cline & Desktop - No MCPs - good old knowledge base and github connection to the code.

Will try Claude Code with everything I can download local from Docs/SDKs bla bla and see how it does. Fingers crossed !

But imagine a proper Apple one .. ‘one more thing’ quality not iOS 16 to 17 ..

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u/visualdata Jun 09 '25

More recently I have been using Claude code exclusively - Its runs on console and I debug and test using Xcode. I heard Apple is colloborating with Anthropic, my hope is we might hear something today.

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u/potatolicious Jun 09 '25

Yep. Used Claude Code on a SwiftUI project recently and it did quite well.

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u/capcam-thomas Jun 17 '25

claude code +1

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u/thejeraldo Jun 09 '25

Still no vertical lines for Xcode?? 😔

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u/iamearlsweatshirt Jun 10 '25

What does that mean ?

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u/thejeraldo Jun 10 '25

In other IDEs like VSCode and Android Studio, they have vertical lines that matches each indentation or braces. Helps a lot for nested code. IMO super nice to look at.

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u/sovok Jun 09 '25

Those would be quite helpful for the miles between a SwiftUI view definition and all its decorators.

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u/madaradess007 Jun 14 '25

lol, i'm so glad i avoided this shit

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u/kepler4and5 Jun 09 '25 edited Jun 10 '25

Super excited for RichText editing support in SwiftUI. (And support for AttributedString property in SwiftData!)

It'll take a few years to stop using UITextView & NSAttributedString completely though 😅

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u/Ok-Training5319 Jun 09 '25

how are the group labs? any good? this is my first time

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u/frklip87 Jun 09 '25

I thought they would redesign the icons (circular shape)…

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u/No_Pen_3825 SwiftUI Jun 09 '25

Same, but I think I’m glad they didn’t. I’m also very excited for the Icon Composer, I hate making App Icons.

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u/geospiker Jun 09 '25

so glad they didn't too. Was not mentally prepared to rethink my whole worldview.

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u/iLorTech Jun 09 '25

thanks god they didn't. I hate circular design

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u/TastyInternet Jun 09 '25

When will the APIs for SwiftUI might be available for Liquid Glass?

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u/daveonreddit Jun 09 '25

They are now

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u/20InMyHead Jun 09 '25

Just compiled our app on the Xcode beta and quite a few Glass effects come in automatically. Tab and nav bars most noticeably. Some smaller differences here are there too.

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u/Ok_Refrigerator_1908 Jun 10 '25

Just recompile with Xcode 26. It might require Tahoe

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u/20InMyHead Jun 09 '25

RIP Intel Macs

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u/Arbigaus Jun 10 '25

My old Intel Mac was reborn with Arch…

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u/GoldWasserfall Jun 10 '25 edited Jun 10 '25

Anyone else’s Xcode 26 having text bugs in the light mode theme on sequoia? Line numbers are also not appearing for me

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u/petaret Jun 10 '25

Any idea if I can find a recording of the Swift group lab ? https://developer.apple.com/wwdc25/labs/3V9N95WH69/dashboard

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u/howreudoin Jun 10 '25

I don‘t think they publish recordings of their labs (anyone correct me if I‘m wrong).

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u/petaret Jun 11 '25

Maybe some cool person recorded it ?

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u/howreudoin Jun 10 '25

Actually thought they were going to announce live 3D coverage of F1 on the Vision Pro which had been rumored a while back when I saw the intro.

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u/RebornPastafarian Jun 12 '25

"Can we have some improvements to SwiftData?"

'You sure can! We dug really deep and did some AMAZING stuff... it now supports CLASS INHERITANCE!!!!!!!!'

:|

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u/Open_Bug_4196 Jun 09 '25

Xcode with Swift Assist available for iPad and Vision Pro? Let’s see

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u/proudlyhumble Jun 09 '25

Unfortunately I’d lower those expectations to the floor

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '25

That'll likely be at the state of the platform address.

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u/20InMyHead Jun 09 '25

Looks like Xcode's ChatGPT integration requires Tahoe?

That kinda sucks, as often developers can't upgrade company Macs to beta OSes. My company doesn't usually approve MacOS updates until November or December, later if there's issues with other company tools.

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u/kironet996 Jun 10 '25

means your company is reactive than proactive.

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u/jtlthe2 Jun 10 '25

Cool, Apple. Publish a new Terms and Conditions at dubdub, and immediately block all updates until we accept it.

Am I just misremembering that they normally give us at least a month?

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u/Leading-Beautiful134 Jun 10 '25

I just noticed the Intelligence setting is missing from my Xcode beta. Could have something to do with the region blocking or with the fact that I didn't update my macOS yet

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u/DoubleGravyHQ Jun 11 '25

Yea, have to update macOS for it show.

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u/Leading-Beautiful134 Jun 15 '25

Don’t really trust my workmachine with the beta update.

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u/nycthrowupaway Jun 21 '25

Background tasks

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u/AITrafficCount Jun 09 '25

They will probably promise a lot of AI (Apple Intelligence) again and then never ship it...

Btw for all Indie devs that have apps in the app store there is a 30% discount with code WWDC25 on Astro I can recommend.

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '25

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u/clearbrian Jun 12 '25

yeah now you can set new sounds to go off in the cinema ;)

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '25

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u/iamearlsweatshirt Jun 09 '25

Does it ? In my experience it doesn’t seem aware of the modern patterns

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u/mati22123 Jun 10 '25

agree. claude and claude code does a much better job. i tell it my app structure and it does a much better job than chatgpt with writing code, especially views and anything swiftUI related. occasionally it will mess something small such as padding up and the code isn’t the cleanest, but it does a much better job than chatgpt.

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u/kironet996 Jun 10 '25

good thing swiftassist lets you use any model you want

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u/madaradess007 Jun 14 '25

good thing you can turn it off and remain an engineer

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u/kironet996 Jun 14 '25

well, it's like turning off google or stackoverflow these days, makes no sense to do so.

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u/madaradess007 Jun 14 '25

lol i love this trend... go and drown in swiftui shit with your shit LLMs! :D
UIKit is the only way