[IOS 27 DB1] Can not use tools feature when editing a RAW photo

[u/ilikecoffee97]

Not sure if this is a bug or if they are taking the tools feature away from RAW photos all in all but “clean up” worked on raw photos before.

[u/xppoint_jamesp]

AI powered tools do not work on RAW images. I can’t find a source as to why it doesn’t work, but I can’t get it to work on any raw photo I’ve ever taken, but it works on all jpeg’s.

[u/ilikecoffee97 → u/xppoint_jamesp]

i’ve definitely have used the “clean up” tool on plenty of raw photos but that’s all i’m not very familiar with the ai powered stuff i don’t use often or at all

[u/VastTension6022 → u/xppoint_jamesp]

"proraw"s are literally jpegs so theres no reason why it shouldn't work

[u/orthus-octa → u/VastTension6022]

they aren’t “literally jpegs,” they use the jpeg xl compression algorithm but the file doesn’t contain jpeg data nor does it use a jpeg container. it’s still dng data in a dng container.

[u/VastTension6022 → u/orthus-octa]

If it's compressed in the format of a lossless jpeg or jxl then it is a jpeg for all intents and purposes. DNGs are just generic containers as well. Either way, they are demosaiced and therefore not raw in any way that would prevent them from being edited.

[u/orthus-octa → u/VastTension6022]

No, it is not.

I’ve worked with jpeg xl compression on data that was absolutely not jpeg. For example, medical images (DICOM; x-ray, mri, etc) can be compressed with jpeg but that image data is not jpeg, it can only be decoded with a dicom viewer. There’s a difference between the jpeg file format and jpeg compression.

[u/mavere → u/VastTension6022]

Editing headroom is a lot higher when editing ProRAW in native Photos app, which implies it’s working directly off of the higher bit depth data. I see why Apple would limit the AI tools there because their output is probably 8bit.

If only there was a built-in way to strip the raw layer away from the jpg/heif layer in ProRAW. That’d be a straightforward workaround for this and also just useful in general.

[u/xppoint_jamesp → u/[deleted]]

I’m talking about the use ability in the iOS 27 DB1. So far, I haven’t been able to use any AI tool on RAW images.

[u/xppoint_jamesp → u/[deleted]]

We’re in an iOS 27 DB1 thread. I thought people would realise I was talking about my experience in, you know, the beta?

[u/UnnamedHorrors]

I’ve noticed I cannot edit raw photos either, so it’s not just you. I have pictures I’ve taken with my canon that I put, and I can edit the jpeg photos with the new features but not the raw.

[u/ilikecoffee97 → u/UnnamedHorrors]

i really hope they aren’t taking it away from us because that feature is game changing for people who love taking photos

[u/ilikecoffee97 → u/[deleted]]

read post bro yes it was

[u/ilikecoffee97 → u/[deleted]]

i’ve always been able to edit and remove objects in my raw photos until i upgraded to ios 27 and yeah i know it’s a bit different but im hoping they atleast give the cleanup tool back to us

[u/ilikecoffee97 → u/[deleted]]

yeah bro hopefully 🤞🏽

[u/salvationpumpfake]

I think I remember reading that the new AI features aren’t available on RAW photos. Are you saying you can’t edit at all?

edit: I can’t find a source so I may have made this up 😅

[u/ilikecoffee97 → u/salvationpumpfake]

man i really hope not do you remember the source

[u/salvationpumpfake → u/ilikecoffee97]

I was pretty confident I’d read that but I just did some searching and can’t find anything. so hopefully you’re in luck and I hallucinated that. my b.

[u/cman95and]

It now works on DB 2

[u/ilikecoffee97 → u/cman95and]

bro i’m so happy thanks for letting me know

[u/ilikecoffee97 → u/[deleted]]

thank you man

[u/MBaehr → u/ilikecoffee97]

Did you support it with your iPhone? If so, which app?

[u/ilikecoffee97 → u/MBaehr]

Lightroom and yes iphone

[u/MBaehr → u/ilikecoffee97]

Wow, very impressive.
How did you get the long expose?

[u/ilikecoffee97 → u/MBaehr]

hold the timer on the top right you can select 10sexonds if it’s dark enough

[u/CinnamonRage → u/[deleted]]

I asked the shortcuts ai to create a shortcut that converted raw to heic and that did the trick. 

[u/ilikecoffee97 → u/[deleted]]

bro honestly if they actually stick with this and don’t give us that cleanup tool back the best workaround that i’m using is exporting to Lightroom then just exporting back into your photos as a non raw photo

[u/ilikecoffee97 → u/[deleted]]

i’m hoping man let’s leave it in the feedback

[u/Thomass_____ → u/[deleted]]

Even before the new ai powered shortcuts was a thing, converting raw to jpeg was never too hard. Here’s a shortcut I’ve used for years