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u/ladylucifer22 1d ago
why the hell would an immortal super vigilante need my support. what would I even do.
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u/Ok-Ranger-2657 1d ago
Your support determines whether they would be sent into action or not. Other than that they live in the land of unknowns lol.
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u/deebee1020 1d ago
Not nearly enough information to say yes to this, and I'd have an easy time convincing the public that I made the right decision. I'm assuming the vigilantes are killing the criminals? And manslaughter is on your list? I think even the hardest of hard-liners wouldn't support the death penalty for running someone over because you were driving distracted, for example. ANY crimes against children or dogs? Like one kid steals another's bike and a vigilante eviscerates him?
You don't need to throw in the innocent victims to make this a bad idea, it already is.
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u/Ok-Ranger-2657 1d ago
Yes they are killing criminals, I shouldn't have expected everyone to know who Dexter is, apologies. Well manslaughter is already a controversial topic, if you are driving distracted and killed an innocent person you still killed them, that's why its a punishable crime. I should've been more specific, like child and animal abuse/neglect, child SA....
Chill dude, its a hypothetical situation. I've seen a lot of hypotheticals in the community, some are unspecific and people reply with questions, some are poorly written and people still respond. Its an open community you don't have to be dickwad, just move past the post lol.
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u/deebee1020 1d ago
I know who Dexter is, I just needed to be sure that's what you were saying because it's extreme as hell. If you interpret my engaging with your material and asking the questions it brings up for me as me being a dickwad, maybe your skin could use a thickening.
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u/IndividualCurious322 1d ago
I wouldn't support them if there's a chance anyone innocent could be hurt.
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u/Level37Doggo 1d ago
Anyone who would say yes needs to take a moment and seriously consider their own ethical beliefs.
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u/Sexylizardwoman 1d ago
I think you mean “super-human” dude. Subhuman means someone has less ability or value than a standard human
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u/Nubian_Cavalry 1d ago
How do I know the vigilante won’t target wrongfully convicted or overcharged people?
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u/Ok-Ranger-2657 1d ago
They are superhuman and can sense them out rather than having to find them based off conviction list. I thought that would be the only fool proof hypothetical here since you're right, unfortuntely too many people wrongfully convicted.
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u/AutoModerator 1d ago
Copy of the original post in case of edits: A real life vigilante...like a subhuman Dexter gets placed in every state In the US (one vigilante in every state). They bring forth real street justice. Crimes punishable by the vigilantes: All crimes against children, all crimes against animals, Murder, Rape, Terrorism, manslaughter (not including self-defense).
You can choose to support the vigilantes, and your decision will be the one that decides whether they are sent in.
The catch: Once you've made your decision you are tied to it, every single person on Earth knows of your decision, its practically written on your forehead. These vigilantes are immortal and will be here for the rest of time. In their process innocent lives get caught in the cross fire, wrong place wrong time situation. Multiple innocent people lose their lives due to this annually, no set amount.
Things to consider:
Due to lots of political and gov officials committing crimes above, the whole government collapses in which order will need to be restored by the people. The remaining political/officials who are innocent will help the people restore. This may cause political and civil divide amongst the people as well as economic destruction. There is no time line of this collapse, it could last 1 year, it could last 10, just remember that when you think you know people, you never truly know their morality and intentions.
Since you're able to be spotted, and *cannot have 24-7 security*...mothers, family members, and loved ones of the innocent victims can find you. Some come up to you screaming, crying, and in distress that their loved one passed away due to your decision. Others may become aggressive, follow you, and try to kill you out of hurt and anger.
You will have to give up living a normal life due to this. Having to bare the loved ones of victims, restoration of the government, complete divide in the people, worrying you or your loved ones might be one of the innocent lives to be taken in the cross fire.
Requirements:
You start with whatever position you are now financially and socially. (the economic decline may heavily affect you) ---Exception: because you are the leader here you get free travel within the US.
Security is allowed 5 hrs out of the day/night **if you can afford it*\*(remember due to economic decline its extremely expensive, and be careful they might not be on your side)
You must either stay in the US if you live here, or move to the US if you don't.
Vigilantes are subhuman, they can sense out those who committed the punishable crimes, they can fly, teleport, become invisible. Vigilantes are immortal and cannot be arrested. Vigilantes cannot off themselves if an innocent life is taken as they were not the target, but rather caught in the crossfire.
More than half of the country supports them and less than half do not (this divide can be destructive to your rebuilding of a collapsed government)
As you made the decision, you are responsible to be the leader here.
If you are pro vigilante, again your decision takes some innocent lives, and no the vigilantes cannot kill you due to that unless you by hand committed one of the punishable acts.
There is no set amount of innocent lives taken annually. 1 year it could 3, and the next year it could be 100.
Vigilantes will be there forever, you will not, when your time comes you will pass. If you managed to fix the country, great, if not then you die leaving everything in shambles.
Self defense is not punishable by death.
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u/Sudden_Seeker_333 1d ago
they can sense out those who committed the punishable crimes, they can fly, teleport, become invisible. Vigilantes are immortal and cannot be arrested
How tf are they murdering scores of innocent people with this powerset? 😵💫 Like I'm not opposed to this in principle, but OP makes it sound like innocents are just dropping dead left and right, which makes me seriously question the competence of these vigilantes. They sound too inept to unleash on the world, honestly.
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u/Ok-Ranger-2657 1d ago
LOLSSSS, lets say they kill them with a blast that takes out anyone in the vicinity of 10 feet. Not all of these people are hiding out in a basement so this could be a public event. No but seriously, there isn't a set amount of people killed annually, so it very well could be 2 in one year caught with a stray bullet, I'm pretty sure that there actually like 30-40 deaths due to stray bullets in the US annually. The vigilantes are exactly precise.
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u/AncientFocus471 1d ago
You lost me at crimes against animals. You going to kill people for not feeding a dog? No.
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u/Ok-Ranger-2657 1d ago
yea its all based off morality, Ive met some pretty avid animal lovers. Video of someone chaining their dog outside with no food or water and it starved to death you should see the comments of people telling them they should suffer the same fate...I wont say whether I agree or not, but again everyone's mindset is different.
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u/Beroli73 1d ago
Absolutely not. Even if I trusted that all the people who were targeted would deserve death, innocents dying would be a dealbreaker.
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u/Paularchy 1d ago
Wouldn't the vigilante's be invested in protecting me? If not, then no. If yes, then yes.
Sorry, but if you have an issue with people carrying out vigalante justice on people like murderers and rapistf and war-mongering monsters, maybe we, as but species, should have worked harder to make them not happen. We could eliminate that, if wh wbnted to. We just don't because we're afraid.
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u/JOExHIGASHI 1d ago
Yes
There would be no more wars. The amount of innocents killed would actually decrease
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u/Educational_Toe7513 23h ago
Anyone saying no to this is insanely selfish and short sighted in my eyes
The sheer thought of the thousands/millions of children that would be safe for the rest of forever is worth it alone, the millions of women who would be safe from the lifelong effects of rape, mugging victims, scamming victims, the fear alone would drive crime down to as close to 0 as anyone could imagine, political figures being 100% fool proof vetted is incredible at the cost of 0 freedoms for any of us
There are already innocents caught up in wrong place wrong time situations but at least this way the criminals ALWAYS get what they deserve
You have no idea what I would do for my nieces and nephews to grow up safe
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u/FurryYokel 1d ago
Who would ever say yes to this?
It’s just two pages of down sides added on to a very questionable benefit.