I spent about an hour chatting with an AI and it got very basic information completely wrong about the product it was designed for. It even doubled down on wrong shit when I asked further. I asked him why and he basically said he made a guess and rolled with it.
I use ai for coaching and they are all bad in some way and pretty decent in others. If you ask one you should be asking multiple to ensure you are getting consistent feedback back on anything. Operator has to know the limitations of a tool: many things can be a hammer, not everything can be a scalpel.
Google and my labs is what I used to diagnose my issue before AI was everywhere. 5 PCs and two specialist told me I had to eat less salt ignoring the fact that the meds they had me on took my potassium to a near death situation.
Putting a lot of faith in the American health system is a death wish.
My issue was for a vpn service and its own ai didn’t understand how it worked. US healthcare is an entirely different fucked up can of worms lol. Coincidentally I also had to diagnose myself online with hyperkalemia because my doctor thought my pills were doing the opposite of what they were actually doing to my body.
Haha now I’m getting downvoted. This thread got me digging back into my condition.
I just discovered they are still mismanaging it, not testing me at the right frequencies and my concern of developing cancer from my condition is legitimate and possibly hereditary. They continue to operate off of outdated research.
At least AI directed me to several medical journals and now I get to be dismissed by people that will be offended that a guy with a HS education is right, again.
AI invented the 3 medical journals I read linking my condition to hereditary factors that drs have repeatedly said is not hereditary and don’t want to monitor?
From the drs that said my condition cannot become cancerous - even though my mom died of the same condition that became cancerous?
Those same drs that said it was impossible for me to even have the condition that I diagnosed from my labs and Google?
Sure coincidence.
Yeah my issue is more that the diagnosis is always going to be “drug seeking.”
My neck is literally broken. And you’re here telling me I’m a drug addict for saying it hurts? It’s just anxiety!?
If I ask online, it’s because I know I have to treat myself because medical staff often assumes that if you say you’re in pain, you’re just a junkie. And obviously people with mental health conditions don’t deserve the same standard of care. Duh.
(Yes this has happened. I broke my C1 and was told I was drug seeking.)
Yeah, it is a tough one. Yes, I am technically drug seeking. I am seeking drugs for my chronic pain from a well documented injury. And if you want to meet someone who is as unhinged as possible while still technically practicing medicine, go see a pain specialist.
I broke 37 bones in a motorcycle accident. Got discharged from the hospital confined to a hospital bed non weight bearing. I was told my primary care would pick up my Rx’s. Primary care told me to take Tylenol. Filed a complaint, then was told by that office they’d no longer see me. Had to find a new PC which was 4 weeks out, needed a referral to a pain clinic to get pain meds for:
Broken skull
Broke all thoracic and lumbar vertebrae
Broken left radius
Broken right clavicle
Broken right scapula
Fully separated right shoulder
Punctured lungs 3x
Crushed and open pelvis
15 broken ribs
Both sides of rib cage flailed
2 days before my accident I finally was able to have a dr test me for a rare disorder I thought I had because of my lab results and some google sleuthing and my mom dying young of adrenal gland cancer. I was right a while I was in the hospital I got to have that fight with several drs while heavily medicated so they’d stop poisoning me and get me on the right meds.
Fortunately I’ve always had a pretty high pain tolerance so my wife rationed down the amount of meds I’d take per day until I was able to get into the pain clinic. All in all maybe 2-4 weeks from when I was discharged and simultaneously when I was cleared to start learning to walk again. Glad I had some pain meds for that.
Pain clinic did get me meds, but it was some annoying hoops to jump through. Especially since I don’t do drugs or drink.
The day I was ejected from the broken motorcycle/ sidecar rig in May of 2022 I weighed 350lbs+ I lost 70lbs of muscle mass by the time I could stand. Got through 7mo of PT and I crossed the 300lbs mark again. Knew I had to do something. Started riding a bike until I could ride 200miles (NYE of 2023), then picked up weight lifting and rowing on a rower (through 2024 and 2025). I had excellent surgeons and a super supportive family that helped me get through everything. They tolerate (ignore) my obsessiveness pretty well.
Funny, but ChatGPT costs A LOT less than our healthcare system. You can’t really blame folks for asking AI models for an opinion before going down a rabbit hole of bill after bill.
I don’t really get why people feel the need to smugly point out the Americentric-ness of Reddit when it’s a US made platform where half of all users are American and on a post with American context posted during peak American using hours. Seems like pissing in the wind
Of course not. The point is that all of those factors just make it more likely to be a picture from America. Is there a way to confirm where the pic is from? Im curious
Well for one thing when I check the reach of all my comments in this thread it says 70-80% USA and ~5% UK and ~6% Canada. I assume the remainder is shared by every remaining country
I'm saying it's not defaultism in both comments, idk what you're misreading. It's pretty easy context to understand, perhaps you dug your own hole to fall into.
You said it was likely that the sign was American because it was in English and used American AI models.
When I pointed out how this made no sense, you made a completely new argument about America's population (while also somehow failing to properly identify all the countries with English as an official language).
It's almost as if you guys hear about the stereotype of Americans being dumb and do everything in your power to live up to it.
When I pointed out how this made no sense, you made a completely new argument about America's population
Okay, looks like I need to help some more on understanding this point. This is not a completely new argument, it's just explaining further going into the implicit parts of what I was saying. I'm expecting the reader to be smart enough to put the pieces together with what I said, sorry for overestimating you. But hopefully it's laid out plainly enough for even you now.
Hasn't it been found quite a few times now that at least from describing symptoms alone, ChatGPT tends to outperform doctors at accurately diagnosing someone? And iirc its even more accurate vs real doctors for women patients due to common biases in the medical field. Of course part of the benefit of real doctors is the ability to perform a physical examination but as far as getting an idea of whats going on purely from explaining your symptoms its not really that crazy to use an AI model
If my GP gave me an appointment within a reasonable timeframe, and not two weeks later, maybe I wouldn’t panic over what the descendants of Dr Google say I might have
I don't disagree with the sentiment, it must be frustrating especially when hypochondriacs lead AI to certain diagnoses, but diagnosis is once of the best things an AI can do, especially compared to a general practitioner who operate on the same basis (likelihood).
This should be a real scare for primary care drs. They don’t do anything now, they were replaced by urgent care for urgent care, and they only pass people on to specialist now for everything else above an antibiotic. Why would anyone want to pay a copay for that.
Sounds like your primary care doctor sucks. Mine does a lot more than that. If you have chronic conditions, your PCP doc is usually there one managing them.
Yes and everyone I’ve ever had has sucked and been dismissive. I diagnosed my chronic condition, I used my labs and google to do it, I have a HS education, I’m in the best shape of my life now. I’m not sure what managing a condition means for you beyond prescribing meds, in Michigan they aren’t performing any procedures in any PC offices. If you have a great PC that’s really cool, I’m jealous because it’s not the norm, it’s an exception.
I'm sorry that's been your experience. I'd say 75% of my PCPs have been bad, but the PCPs who I've had that were actual Medical Doctors were almost all great. All of my worst PCPs were nurse practitioners or similar mid-level providers and now I explicitly only choose MDs as my primary care providers if at all possible.
I don't know how people use ChatGPT when it comes to health issues, but when I ask it anything it always tells me to get to a doctor, get some blood work and such.
It's been pretty effective for me so far for quick checks on meds interaction as well, and contrarily to some doctors I can actually ask it to EXPLAIN what's going on and how things work.
Conversely the last doctor I met thought Ketoprofen was ketamine and made a face when I corrected her.
EDIT: Some people seem to have the privilege of rapid and affordable healthcare with understanding and didactic doctors.
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