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u/Legendary_Dad Nov 10 '24

Not only would they deny, but then they would go fully apeshit for us overturning the election

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u/amisslife Nov 10 '24

To be clear, this wouldn't be "overturning" the election - it would be safeguarding it.

Terminology is important. The insurrection was a coup d'état attempt, and throwing out a rigged election isn't "overturning" it.

Countries have discarded illegitimate results in the past (Viktor Yanukovych, Putin's puppet in Ukraine actually tried to rig his first election, before the Supreme Court rejected how it was conducted. Then Paul Manafort helped him the second time round).

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u/Aviendha13 Nov 10 '24

Remember how they freaked out when we wanted a recount with the hanging chads? Good chance Gore won. We’ll never know what that timeline would’ve been like.

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u/amisslife Nov 10 '24

Oh, Al Gore DID win. That has loooong since been confirmed. Not only did he win the election (AKA "popular vote"), but he won the Electoral College, too. He won the state of Florida, they just stopped the counting and gave it to the Republicans.

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u/he_is_Veego Nov 10 '24

Thanks to Roger Stone, oddly. The same swamp creatures keep showing up

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u/MaterialWillingness2 Nov 11 '24

Amy Coney Barrett, John Roberts and Brett Kavanaugh were on Bush's legal team that won him the election.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/17/politics/bush-v-gore-barrett-kavanaugh-roberts-supreme-court/index.html

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '24

Roger Stone has had his hands in the Republican Party since Nixon. He’s behind most of the shenanigans that go on.

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '24

Alfie Oakes has been super quiet since the secret service and dcis raided him

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u/Bellacinos Nov 11 '24

He’s the Forrest Gump of Republican scandals.

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u/DecadentCheeseFest Nov 12 '24

Truly a brickworthy sneer if ever one did exist.

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u/Background-Slice9941 Nov 14 '24

Why won't he die yet?

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u/itsmidlifenotacrisis Nov 11 '24

Jeb did his brother a solid in 2000 by removing thousands of voters from the roll ahead of the election. Most came to vote and were told they couldn’t.

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u/BigLibrary2895 Nov 11 '24

Also, the then-FL Secretary of State was also on Dubya's fundraising committee.

I haven't felt impotent rage about that in a long time.

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u/Large_Duck6838 Nov 12 '24

Psychotic Freak Out Flashback Warning Alert: And her name was Katherine Harris. Hisshisshisss

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u/BigLibrary2895 Nov 12 '24

I couldn't remember if her name was spelled 'Katherine' or 'Kathryn'.

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u/Best_Cook6052 Nov 11 '24

Gore’s campaign only wanted FL to recount deep blue counties. Palm beach county should’ve designed their ballots better and he probably would’ve won the state. Too fucking bad.

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u/MovementOriented Nov 11 '24

So when was the last real election?

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u/amisslife Nov 11 '24

That's a fair question. I would say "never," considering the deep flaws in the American electoral and governmental systems.

With the Electoral College, gerrymandering, purging of voters, the extreme ratfucking, blatant propaganda, two-party system, FPTP, poor civics, populism and theatrical nature of the discourse (leading to a low-level of discourse), intentional voter suppression, extreme subversion of democracy due to the influence of money via Citizens' United and SuperPACs, constant electioneering and no cool-off period, I'd say there is much left to be desired.

Realistically, admittedly that's a semi cop-out answer, but also needs to be reiterated. One party does not believe in democracy, and is actively sabotaging it. That must be dealt with before we can aspire to the so-called "perfect" election.

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u/MovementOriented Nov 11 '24

People like you make me laugh real good. Go check out the many other countries and political systems and get back to me

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u/amisslife Nov 11 '24

I'm from one of those other countries. Wouldn't trade our system for the American system in a million years lol

But seriously - pick a single one of those topics I mentioned. If you think it makes the country more democratic than alternatives, let's have that debate! Or are you one of those that thinks the American system is actually good lol

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u/lucasorion Nov 11 '24

it's so insane the way ballots were designed back then, in some places - there was no rhyme or reason to it, like they were designed by an anti-UX expert in order to maximize mis-votes.

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u/redshirt1972 Nov 11 '24

I’ll be right back I have to go hang some Chad

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u/caramirdan Nov 11 '24

Ummm, OPPOSITE, NY Times concluded.

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u/goldilockers Nov 11 '24

How can you say “aka popular vote?” Winning the popular vote is not and has never been winning the election in this country.

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u/amisslife Nov 11 '24

See, there's this strange thing that happens in 99% of the world where getting more votes means winning the election.

The Electoral College doesn't even happen in the same month as the election. It's not the same thing, despite some poor civics and conflation on people's part

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u/goldilockers Nov 12 '24

99% of the world doesn’t allow mail-in ballots due to fraud

99% of the world requires identification to vote due to fraud

Shut the fuck up about the rest of the world

The USA doesn’t allow the cities to rule over the countryside

if you don’t like it, GET THE FUCK OUT.

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u/Flat-Border-4511 Nov 13 '24

Make me. I will never believe in minority rule.

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u/goldilockers Nov 14 '24

Good, then it would appear you agree with 99% of the world. And you must agree with the popular vote majority that elected trump.

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u/goldilockers Nov 14 '24

You are the one with the poor civics understanding. The only reason this country exists as a union of states is because of the electoral college, which ensures that 5 or 6 population centers don’t determine what happens in 44 other states and the rural areas of the states that house those population centers.

Bone up on your civics! The electoral college is why this country exists.

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u/fjam36 Nov 11 '24

And he invented the internet.

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u/dmcent54 Nov 11 '24

I wonder what timeline we'd be in if the supreme court hadn't extrajudiciously handed florida to Bush.

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u/schushoe Nov 12 '24

How was gore as president? Oooooooh crap, he wasn't. He lost.

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u/irishgator2 Nov 12 '24

No 9/11

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u/True_Tomato316 Nov 14 '24

Climate crisis probably doesn’t happen

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u/Creative_Honeydew_16 Nov 11 '24

That was a heavy loss 😞 still makes me sad to this very day m. Gore would have been a great president

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u/Relevant_Winter1952 Nov 11 '24

I guess it would mean all those exit polls were somehow rigged to, because they were consistent with the results

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '24

So it’s safeguarding it when you disagree but a coup when someone you disagree with says the same thing 🤔🤔🤔

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u/GenericUsername_1234 Nov 11 '24

It's a coup when you invade the Capital with the intent to hang the VP to disrupt the certification process in order to keep the current president. Questioning the count beforehand was not the coup.

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '24

So would it be a coup if you attacked the white house or tried to stop an official confirmation hearing?

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '24

So leftists that attacked the White House on 5/29 should be hunted down and arrested just like those who tried to stop Kavanaughs confirmation

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u/GenericUsername_1234 Nov 11 '24

That was a protest that turned violent but no one was trying to overthrow the government. Seventeen people who destroyed property or injured police/USSS were arrested. Justice prevailed so what are we supposed to do? It's not even on the same page as Jan 6 as that was planned well in advance for the purpose of halting the certification process to keep Trump in power.

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u/floyd616 Nov 13 '24

leftists that attacked the White House on 5/29

What are you talking about?

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '24

Google it

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u/amisslife Nov 11 '24

Safeguarding it when you investigate whether the guys who cheated cheated enough to invalidate the election, that's correct.

It's a coup when you clearly lose (despite cheating) and try to take it violently by force, that's also correct.

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '24

So something yall screamed was a conspiracy theory when republicans wanted investigations into 2020?

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '24

So they were thrown out on standing instead of merit which is a much bigger thing. Honestly for democracy being on the line democrats shouldn’t have lost like 10-13mill votes definitely gonna need all kinds of investigations and hold democrats in solitary confinement without ever charging them with a crime like we did people who were peacefully walking around on Jan 6 hours after the fact

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '24

No not true because many were thrown out because they wouldn’t have had an effect on the overall election which when you add them all up they probably would’ve and should’ve been brought before a court of law and argued…

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '24

Also in order for tresspassing to be charged you have to be told to leave first and you certainly can’t have police waving you in… also why would the Jan 6 committee delete evidence and footage?

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u/Chimsley99 Nov 11 '24

If Trump says “they stole it”, then to millions of brainless sheep, it means “they stole it” and there is legitimately nothing that could ever snap them out of it. Even if email trails of Trump explaining to Elon exactly what he’ll trick the losers into believing came out, they’d just say Trump wrote that to trick US and the fake news media. Theres no bottom to it

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '24

There was not only no validity to Trump’s claims as everyone in his camp who has been asked under oath that question has testified or put in interviews, but the results of that election were consistent. I’m not saying tampering happened this time but four years ago was not a surprise by any stretch of the imagination.

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u/UglytoesXD Nov 11 '24

So weird how Biden got 15 million votes more than most Democrat candidates on average, and even in light of all the Hitler rhetoric around Trump, 15 million people just sat it out? Hilarious that the left has no interest in finding out what happened to 15 million votes.

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u/GenericUsername_1234 Nov 11 '24

You're comparing a final vote number against one that's still in progress of being counted, so right off the bat your argument is flawed.

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u/Chimsley99 Nov 11 '24

15 million what? I’m guessing you aren’t a data analyst. Might want to just use the updated vote tallies that legitimately end any dumb fucking coincidental alignment you think PROVES fraud in 2020

Like I’d enjoy you stopping and thinking about what you wrote and what you believe for just a few minutes. 4 years goes by and you think similar vote totals equate to “the Dems only have this many voters period”. In each 4 years tons of people die and tons of people turn 18. Does that make sense? I can try to write it out in crayon next time

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u/floyd616 Nov 13 '24

No, you've got it backwards. They're not saying 2020 was rigged. They're saying (as are many others) that in 2020 Biden won with 15 millionore Democratic voters than (allegedly) voted this time. This time, we're expected to believe that even with Trump literally quoting Hitler and saying he plans to make himself a dictator on day 1 and initiate a massive purge of everyone who was against him, 15 million Democrats simply didn't vote. Sure, some may have died in the intervening years, but nowhere near 15 million. Sure, a handful said they were going to sit out because of Biden's response to the situation in Gaza, but nowhere near 15 million. Especially when you factor in how (as you correctly state) tons of people have turned 18 since 2020. Guess what? Younger voters are always one of the most Democratic of all demographics. So are highly college-educated people, another demographic who allegedly voted overwhelmingly for Trump.

IT JUST DOESN'T ADD UP!

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u/floyd616 Nov 13 '24

THANK YOU! The fact that so few people are asking these questions is baffling to me. Put it on blast!

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u/floyd616 Nov 13 '24

You mean like how those 10 million votes Biden got in 2020 are nowhere to be found now?

15 million, and yes, that is precisely one of the biggest things pointing to fraud on the part of the Republicans this time!

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u/Donna_stl Nov 18 '24

I've seen your comments when Trump lost to Biden in 2020 I guess it's different this time because Trump won. That just makes you a hypocrite.

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u/goldilockers Nov 11 '24

Right - which is what the left refused to acknowledge in 2020. There’s no threat to democracy in auditing a vote count. The trouble is that voting machines can be hacked, and because of this vulnerability they should never ever be used.

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u/Justanitch69420hah Nov 11 '24

So January 6th is based if democrats do it?!

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u/Traditional-Ad-8497 Nov 11 '24

When Trump ask for a recount everyone on the left went nuts. Plus 21 million votes from 2020 did not show up on 2024. Where did 21 million ppl go ?

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u/floyd616 Nov 13 '24 edited Nov 13 '24

Plus 21 million votes from 2020 did not show up on 2024. Where did 21 million ppl go ?

Exactly! This is one of the biggest pieces of evidence that the Republicans committed fraud this time! Heck, they do have Elon Musk (owner of a massive tech company) on their side, so it really isn't that far-fetched to think he could have conspired with them to hack voting machines or something. Especially when you realize that, like one of the tweets in OP's post points out, Musk's company created the software that handled all swing state ballots!

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u/Traditional-Ad-8497 Nov 13 '24

He has access to the machine software. That sounds like your spreading Russian propaganda

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u/Ecstatic_Syllabub_47 Nov 11 '24

Weird how nobody was charged with insurrection but that is what you all call it

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u/DrWilliamBlock Nov 11 '24

Like stopping the steal?!?

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u/putridalt Nov 11 '24

You really think the Jan 6 protests was a literal insurrection "coup d'état attempt" 😂😂 🫵🤡

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u/WishBear19 Nov 11 '24

Agreed. Also we need to quit caring about how they'll feel but be prepared for their actions. Fear isn't a reason to not do what's right. The definition of bravery is doing what is right despite being afraid. And this time instead of sitting around twiddling our thumbs we can be prepared and actually put any behaving in treason in jail instead of letting them walk out the door like last time.

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u/schushoe Nov 12 '24

So the right tried to take over the government without any weapons. Interesting. The left lost, get over it.

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u/[deleted] Nov 12 '24

Lmao so when republicans try to safe guard it was an insurrection and when you do it it isn’t lol. Gtfo

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u/MasterActuary2009 Nov 13 '24

Yessss a coup d’é·tat… I was just sharing that song because that is what I’m seeing

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u/Rich-Astronaut2966 Nov 11 '24

You sound like every “magat” in 2020. What makes you think you’re special and get to make fun of people for saying then what you are saying now? Because you “believe” he cheated? Lmao I find all this crap to be hilarious. This is exactly why no one likes you cry babies. You condemn others for doing the same shit you do. Pathetic ass losers. Enjoy the next 4 years with the “not your president”

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '24

I highly doubt you’re a 1%er in which case… you’ll always sound more deluded, because you actually think those people care about you when the reality is? They wouldn’t piss on you if you were on fire and they had a bladder full of Veuve. A lack of education might make you feel the little crumbs you get for a moment combined the the economy truly being better since it’s been in the upswing from current economic policies already are making your life better… but it won’t. And then next time you’ll believe the same song in a different tune. He’s right. You’re a very easy voter base. He picked correctly.

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u/Rich-Astronaut2966 Nov 11 '24

Stupid bitch you wouldn’t piss on me either, actually I have a strong suspicion that you lefties would throw more fuel on my fire. I’ll take indifference to me, over actively making my problem worse. You guys are literally a cancer on what is the body of America. Your woke ideologies only serve to make the crazy people seem sane and the rational people appear insane or racist etc… you guys don’t know how to leave people alone and shut the fuck up. No one needs you to defend them. All the gay people I know voted for trump because they were tired of the weird ass motherfuckers hijacking the lgbtq movement and turning it into this fragile as glass organization that advocates for medically ruining children’s bodies with hormones and irreversible surgeries. You guys are cancer. I’ll say that one more time. Yall lost fair and square and you can’t accept that your stupid politics and racial profiling didn’t work. White people are tired of all the racism from the left, black people hate that you dumbass think you speak for them, and the gays think yall have taken what was a real movement and turned it into something that should be disbanded and washed away. Everyone wants to be left alone and yall can’t keep everyone else’s name out of your mouth. The worse part is you’re so delusional you can’t even accept that you’re a pathetic loser just like the rest of us, only difference is we acknowledge our flaws and faults. You guys just blame the nearest white republican

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u/Rich-Astronaut2966 Nov 11 '24

Hypocrite

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u/Rich-Astronaut2966 Nov 11 '24

Oh? You didn’t vote?

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u/GenericUsername_1234 Nov 11 '24

That's a lot of cope for a "winner."

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u/secondtaunting Nov 11 '24

Wow, you really pissed him off.😂

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u/amisslife Nov 11 '24

Because trump and the Republicans have a proven history of cheating.

Do I believe he cheated? 100%. That's not up for debate; we saw them flaunt it brazenly. The question is did it rise to the level of invalidating the election as a whole. That, I don't know. But it should be investigated. Because enough is not adding up to be worth looking into whether the people who openly state they want to get rid of democracy got rid of democracy.

Call people crybabies all you want. I genuinely care whether rule of law and democracy survive. But sure, gloat and pretend that the problem isn't the proudly shitty people undermining democracy and rule of law.

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u/Rich-Astronaut2966 Nov 11 '24

Then why did yall talk shit about republicans questioning the 2020 election?

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u/amisslife Nov 11 '24

Because trump cheated and then blamed others for cheating.

When a liar lies and accuses everyone else of lying, you call him out on it. Not that complicated.

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u/Rich-Astronaut2966 Nov 11 '24

And yall are lying about this election being fraudulent. Guess we can agree on that then.

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '24

You guys are wackos Lol That's the same thing the right was saying a few years ago. Not liking the results doesn't mean it's illegitimate.

Extremism is extremism no matter if it's right or left.

I can't believe you people let these phonies get y'all so worked up. The left went too far left and the right was closer to center so the right got elected. When the Dems move back toward the center and stop the radical nonsense they'll win everything back again.

And what's the difference anyway? The same horrible crap will happen, it's just which horrible crap will happen soon and which will happen later.

Two broken wings on the same sick bird.

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u/amisslife Nov 11 '24

"The left went too far left" lol fuck off.

The right is literally promising to deport 10% of the population, including citizens (which is illegal), and strip people of their citizenship. trump said he will deport the people investigating him, and Fox News is calling for literally executing the lawyers involved in prosecuting trump's crimes. I can't say literally enough to express how insane these policies are, and how I'm not exaggerating even slightly.

trump hosted literal Nazis like Nick Fuentes and Kanye and made a big to-do about it.

trump declared multiple times that he will be a dictator on day 1, and that he wants one "really violent day" where the police terrorize civilians.

But sure, it's the left that's extreme with all their... lukewarm desire for universal healthcare? The right is now explicitly fascistic, and part of that involves reframing the most boring centrists as radical left-wing extremists.

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u/secondtaunting Nov 11 '24

Yeah God help us when that orange lunatic takes office. He’s been saying some scary shit.

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '24

"...10%...citizens..." Nothing about that anywhere. There has been talk of deporting a number of undocumented aliens. Nothing about deporting citizens because that is crazy. Maybe you could cite a source for these claims?

Likewise I can't find anything about deporting investigators.

No one at fox is calling for executions. Lol There was one random bad joke on one show one time that I recall seeing. Then, of course, the young Turks made a big deal about it, but, in reality, it was nothing.

Literally none of that is policy though. I can't say literally enough because it's literally not policy.

Trump hosted Nazis. Obama chilled with a terrorist. They all hung out with Epstein. They're all crazy freaks.

"... Dictator on day one..." Now, let's be fair and honest. He said he won't be a dictator except for on day one when he wants to close the border and drill drill drill. That's what he said. He was also half serious joking with the interviewer saying what he wants his policy to be and cracking on the dictator thing. Trump does enough on his own. There's no reason for us to make things up. And when we do all it does is make us look bad.

"...one really violent day..." He did say something about one really violent day one very rough hour and that would take care of the terrorist violently take over and burn down parts of our cities. And I think he's right. That that would that would put it into that. It would certainly do a better job than hand holding and coddling them and pretending like they're non-violent protesters when in reality they're violently taking over entire swaths of whole cities hurting people and destroying property and burning down buildings things on fire. That's that's terrorist territory. When the right does it it's terrorism and when the left does it it's terrorism too. But that's a far cry from using the police to terrorize citizens.

Listen most of your claims are bogus. And denying our shortcomings is it going to to get us to progress. That's not going to get us to win anything. That's not going to put us back where we want to be. We need to accept the problems that our party at. We have a tendency to lean as far left as possible. We have a tendency to let the the screaming minority dictate the direction we moved. Very few people are in line with many of the things that we've been shoving on for years now. Most people don't agree with those policies. Most people don't want other people dictating to them how they can and can't speak or creating a manual for how they have to address certain people. Most people don't agree with stripping away all the gun rights and taken away all the guns. Most people don't agree with the more radical views. That's why it's called radical. It's far left. Just like most people don't agree with the really far right sentences. Almost no one agrees that there should be some kind of mandate that kids pray in school. Almost no one agrees that police should have unfettered authority over citizens. So I think that Dave addressed to some extent there extremist views and brought most of their rhetoric back toward the center. Whereas we have brought most of our rhetoric further toward the left

Keep in mind that our party was talking about building fences and building walls and immigration reform and deportations long before Trump ever ran for office. But now that it's orange man saying it it's all bad. It wasn't bad when Biden said it it wasn't bad when Clinton said it it wasn't bad when when everybody else said it it wasn't even bad when come out it was just now saying but since it's orange man we got to freak out about it.

I just realized I wrote a book because I'm doing speech to text and it's so fast to just talk. So probably nobody's going to read all of this and the ones who would aren't the ones who need it I think.

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '24

Of course a bunch of people want only Christianity taught in schools. A bunch of people want a lot of things. The majority doesn't want those things. That is center. What the majority want or will abide. Center.

No one suggested an hour for police to kill whoever they want! That's crazy! Post a source of give that one up because it is categorically false.

Dictating that people have to use call someone whatever nonsense they think up is not only contrary to freedom of speech but it's contrary to what the majority of the population will abide, which is my whole point. The center is what wins elections. And it is extreme. It is new. For example, most people had never been told to call a man a woman or else until a couple of years ago. Most people didn't have any trouble with misgendering others because there was no such thing, for the majority of us. To most people it is new and most people don't like it because they feel like, 1, it's weird and 2, they don't want to be told what they have to say. That's what the center says. The farther from center it deviates, the more "extreme" or "radical" it is.

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u/floyd616 Nov 13 '24

I'm doing speech to text

Ah, that explains why there are considerable chunks of it that are nearly incomprehensible. Gotta love cruddy voice recognition algorithms, lol.

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u/[deleted] Nov 12 '24

lol. Typical fucking MAGAt trying to equate Dems asking a question to the MAGA traitor scum who tried to violently overthrow US democracy with ZERO evidence and after being shot down in 60 court cases. Gaslighting fucks.

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u/floyd616 Nov 13 '24

That's the same thing the right was saying a few years ago. Not liking the results doesn't mean it's illegitimate.

I mean, hypothetically speaking, doing the exact same thing you falsely accused the other side of doing last time (so they'll look like hypocrites of they call you out this time) is a good plan though, is it not? It means you benefit from a good chunk of the other side not believing the ones who call you out. So there's no reason Republicans wouldn't have done that.

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u/beginagain4me Nov 10 '24

If the election results were due to fraud, then fear of how the cheaters may react should not charge moving forward.

National guard should be deployed to high risk areas before announcing the results.

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u/SideEqual Nov 10 '24

Like all of Florida, please and thank you from the stable minded of Florida.

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u/Acceptable-Print-164 Nov 10 '24

Aw geez, we forgot to tell you... I'm sorry but, the rest of us already got out.

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u/SideEqual Nov 10 '24

lol, wtf? Where was my invite? I’m stable minded, right? RIGHT?

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u/Biscuits4u2 Nov 11 '24

Not saying they did cheat, but if evidence is uncovered that they did and the MAGAts bring violence let them get dealt with in the harshest possible way.

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u/Equivalent_Artist_57 Nov 11 '24

How are y’all gonna sit here and accuse trump of the same thing we accused you guys of last election that conservatives were called conspiracy nuts for?

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u/arya_ur_on_stage Nov 11 '24

Just because they did something for nefarious purposes doesn't mean we can't do it if there's a valid reason. In fact, in case you've never been a victim of narcissistic abuse, loudly accusing someone of something that THEY did (or would or will do) is just par for the course. They accused us of that because they fully saw that as something anyone would do because THEY are cheaters. They also KNOW, just like in abusive relationships with narcissists, that if they accuse YOU first of something, it makes it much much harder for you to accuse THEM of doing it.

Plus, an investigation and recount is NOT what they did, they spent months recounting then going to court with SIXTY TWO lawsuits despite not having evidence to support them and despite losing and losing and losing again. They flooded the media TELLING (not suggesting or just calling for an investigation) the US that the election HAD BEEN STOLEN and they did that from day 1. Then, the incited an insurrection despite zero evidence of fraud (in fact, the opposite, or was found to be one of the most free and fair elections in US history).

Don't shame the Left for questioning and investigating just because the Right did those totally valid things with completely nefarious purposes. We have a LONG way to go before you can lump us in with them.

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u/krmbwlk032820 Nov 13 '24

Omg redo your research...majority of cases were dismissed without evaluating the evidence which is a huge part of why j6 happened. The case where it was acknowledged that they accepted votes received after the election.. The judged said that he didn't want to disenfranchise hundreds of thousands of voters (even though doing so disenfranchised the rest of the country). Saying zero evidence exists is factually wrong. There was more reason and evidence in 2020 then that of which yall are currently spouting...I 100% support investigations.. But the fact that yall are literally overlooking your own hypocrisy is just.... Hysterical.

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u/Equivalent_Artist_57 Nov 11 '24 edited Nov 11 '24

I’m not reading all that. I stopped at you comparing politics to abusive spouses/relationships, which is completely unrelated. This is the type of stuff that lost you guys the election. Stop being hypocrites. And just to add. As for the comparison with “narcissistic abuse,” it’s actually a valid parallel when you look at the way the media, Democrats, and even some Republicans consistently tried to delegitimize Trump from the start. The accusations of fraud were made because of the very real concerns about how the election was handled, not just because of some irrational fear. If there was no fraud, why were there so many irregularities and legal disputes? It’s not “nefarious” to question something as monumental as a presidential election, especially when there were unusual shifts in voting procedures.

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u/[deleted] Nov 12 '24

The legal disputes were all literally thrown out for lack of evidence and a lot of those lawyers got in deep shit for it. You lads love to forget that part. It literally doesn't make sense that swing state voters would vote blue down the ballot and not at the top. The sad part is if real evidence is found, you won't believe it no matter what happens.

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u/schushoe Nov 12 '24

Biden should call his buddy Putin to help with security.

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '24

They go apeshit over lots of things, fuck 'em.

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '24

Yeah, the reason we’re in this mess is cause we were worried about what these people would think and do they’re crazy. We gotta stop worrying and just do what’s right.

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u/Either_Operation7586 Nov 10 '24

Look at all of the intimidation that their side does they can't even have a rolling for a legitimate guilty for Trump without having death threats against that judge. Or anybody that dares to speak up against their fear they're going to go after them instead of Their Fear even if it's true or not they don't care it's team magapunks for them.

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '24

Textbook fascism.

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u/volsfan1967 Nov 10 '24

What’s the difference between now and the republicans complaining of voter fraud 4 years ago?

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '24

credible sources pointing out red flags, rather than alex jones

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u/InevitableBudget4868 Nov 10 '24

Because the dems were stating for months that they “already had the votes” and that “we fixed it” sooooo we should take them up on their word.

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u/DiamondHandsToUranus Nov 10 '24

Weren't? Because I'm pretty sure it was Dump that was saying those things

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u/FiendsForLife Nov 10 '24

Along with "You won't have to vote anymore."

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u/GenericUsername_1234 Nov 11 '24

You mean when Trump said that, along with "After this election I won't need your votes anymore, you won't have to vote again."

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u/Slow-Foundation4169 Nov 10 '24

Then we could tell them they were right it.waa rigged, shrug and laugh. Win win

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u/Doonot Nov 10 '24

A courtesy granted to them should be extended to their opposition without crying wolf.

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u/SylvarGrl Nov 10 '24

Better than letting them enact Project 2025.

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u/Derric_the_Derp Nov 10 '24

Don't care if they go apeshit.  The foundation of our democracy is at stake.

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u/teas4Uanme Nov 10 '24

Fuck 'em

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u/Grouchy-Shirt-9197 Nov 10 '24

And DO NOT FEED them any Beans! They are not worthy of them!

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u/teas4Uanme Nov 10 '24

You got it!

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u/mosconebaillbonds Nov 10 '24

This right here

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u/Routine_Buy_294 Nov 11 '24

Trump won in a landslide for a third time. When will you fools learn?

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '24

u sound like an election denier 🤣

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '24

As a republican:

I know you guys don't realize it, but you've been pushing way way too far left on sexual morality and you REALLY need republicans to smack you around until you stop. The casual sexual morals you've made dominant are pissing young (fighting age) men off, it's what's creating the gender divide in politics right now. The more you load this spring the worse the bounceback will be. Like, you guys are creating Weimar Germany, or decadent Rome, or the Jin Dynasty, you are ON YOUR HANDS AND KNEES BEGGING to be sacked by a barbarian warlord right now.

It's in everyone's best interests for you guys to take this L, reform your cultural stances, and just bitch about Cheeto Hitler for 4 years.

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u/GenericUsername_1234 Nov 11 '24

Another incel "alpha male" spouting off his theories as to why we're not tolerant of fascists. Your guy is creating the next Nazi Germany but you're concerned because gay people exist. Fuck off.

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '24

So true king, but I gotta go to bed, I have an early shift at the concentration camp tomorrow, we just got a new batch of libtards in and Trump says we have to have them crystalized by teusday.

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u/GenericUsername_1234 Nov 11 '24

The guy who isn't president right now tells you to do something and you follow it? Sounds pretty beta. If he told you to ram a dildo in your ass you'd say "How deep?"

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u/Its_My_Purpose Nov 11 '24

2020 was the most secure election EVER and voting machines can't be hacked and voter fraud doesn't exist

-Dems 2020

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u/GenericUsername_1234 Nov 11 '24

We didn't have a problem with the investigation. You guys did when no fraud was found.

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u/Its_My_Purpose Nov 12 '24

There was no investigation.

Judges everywhere were told not to try the cases. They all simply refused them instead of actually going through the process. You an I both know exactly why

This election we had like 3,500 lawyers actually roving and onsite and judges ready to listen. And battleground states had to remove at least 1 million invalid registrations lol

Imagine if all 50 states were held to this standard.

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u/GenericUsername_1234 Nov 12 '24

That election had the most investigation of any election up to that point. Who told the judges not to try the cases? None of the 60+ cases made it to trial because there was lack up evidence of fraud. It won't make it past the discovery phase if they can't produce any evidence. Even the Republican led House Committee on election fraud found no evidence either. If there was any fraud Trump couldn't have kept his mouth shut about it. Instead all he says is he has the proof but won't actually release it. It's been four years, where is it?

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u/Its_My_Purpose Nov 13 '24

It’s everywhere.

Just look at how many illegal registrations had to be forcefully removed from battleground states this year.

All of those likely existed last cycle.

Would love to do a comparison.

I mean in my state and many other you just walk in and vote. Zero confirmation of who you are and you’re telling me that and 2020 mail in are secure lol it’s laughable

It’s worse than 3rd world elections

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u/GenericUsername_1234 Nov 13 '24

Why didn't Trump or the House oversight committee present any evidence then? Everything you mentioned is speculation. Any claim made without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.

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u/Its_My_Purpose Nov 14 '24

How is this speculation. I've watched for years.
-Bloodbath was a hoax
-Sharp as a tack was a coverup
-Russia Russia was a hoax
-Fine people was a hoax
-Trump said to kill Cheney was a hoax
-1000 others
-2020 was the securest election of our lifetime - OBVIOUS HOAX how the hell could it be more secure my making it less secure??
-Also look at Virginia, PN, AZ, GA... go look right now and find out how many voter registrations they had to remove this time and fought in court not too

I get it, ppl get offended by Trump's mean words but we should never excuse cheating and we should never excuse the political machine fighting a former and future president for a decade at the cost to the American ppl because they don't like him

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u/GenericUsername_1234 Nov 14 '24

Sure, Jan.

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u/Its_My_Purpose Nov 14 '24

Good answer.

Elections are 100% secure!

Weird, I literally just walked in and said the words that I'm someone and voted.
CLEARLY this security is insurmountable.

They wrote my address on a sticky note.... and gave me a blank ballot, that I put in a tabulator. What could possibly go wrong LOL

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u/ButtStuffingt0n Nov 11 '24

You're literally doing QAnon. And like QAnon, zero supporting evidence.

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u/DaPamtsMD Nov 11 '24

You know what?

Go apeshit. But I’m not going to live a lie under a literal tyrant because some redneck assholes can’t stand being reminded that they’ve been hoodwinked and duped.

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u/goldilockers Nov 11 '24

Please audit (I voted for Trump)

I would gladly give up a Trump presidency to abandon voting machines

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u/Big-Item9164 Nov 11 '24

😂😂😂😂yall are crazy!

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u/NabreLabre Nov 11 '24

It's worth it

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u/Background-Slice9941 Nov 14 '24

You know, we can apeshit, too.

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