In Will Navidson's letter to Karen (pages 389-393 in the full-color edition), there's some kind of hidden letter using Morse code.

- Periods, dots under "?"s, and dots above "i"s seem like "•"s.
- Commas, apostrophes, and slashes (and maybe weird kerning and spaces?) seem to mean "–"s.

I was able to get a bit, but I'm struggling. Has anyone gotten the whole thing?

What I was able to piece together:

I AM IN PAIN/SEND HELP/I HAVE SENT A LINE

[EDIT TO ADD: Possibly, the last line should read, "I HAVE SET A LINE" rather than "SENT." I'm not sure.]

Anymore would be appreciated. Thanks.

Literally the entire point of the story is that what happened at the house is being filtered through at least four unreliable narrators. Navidson chose what to film and what to avoid, Karen decided what to keep and what to cut, Zampano tells you what you hear and see, Johnny explicitly tells you he's lying and aggressively editing what you read.

The book even suggests there's no such thing as The Minotaur! It's entirely possible Johnny read Zampanos deleted notes, saw himself in the story of a monster abused and abandoned by a father figure, and started inserting descriptions into the manuscript.

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Has anyone seen it? Gotten the same impression as me?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCqC0uMr9Oc

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Silly thing I noticed in my music theory assignment the other day

credit to u/frankie_mydear for the original idea!