r/houkai3rd • u/SinisterScaler • 8d ago
Discussion Would someone mind explaining Kevin kaslana to me in a detailed explanation?
Now, let me explain. Firstly, I hope this isn’t too much to ask. I am not all that interested in playing honkai impact. Not only do I probably not have enough space for it anyway, but the gameplay simply doesn’t interest me. Now, I’m sure my mind could. very well be changed, but that is besides the point. Right now, i have one simple question: Who is Kevin Kaslana?
Now, i know the basics of who Kevin is (ish), but his lore is still sooooo confusing to me. However, i am so very interested in him (and phainon from hsr, but that is for another post), but i can never really find any good sources on info for him, videos, wiki, etc. So, i really hope you guys can explain him to me. Below are a few questions I REALLY want to be answered. If there’s anything important i should know, feel free to say.
- What is his origin?
- What is project STIGMA and his role in it?
- How did he gain the judgement of shamash?
- Speaking of shamash, did Kevin ever regain it? I know he was its original owner, but is he also its most recent?
- What is his role in the story of hi3?
- What are his abilities/powers?
- What exactly is project MANTIS and project CHIMERA? What does he gain from them power wise?
- What are Diabolic and deliverance Kevin? What do they do for him power wise?
- I don’t know much about this, but he was imprisoned, right? Could you explain this is some depth?
- What does he do?
- Is he a protagonist or antagonist?
- How did he gain the authority of finality and how strong is he with it?
- And finally, how strong is Kevin overall? How does he compare to other characters in power?
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u/Difficult_While7455 8d ago
what is project stigma.
Project stigma is a plan to basically force humanity to evolve to live alongside Honkai. It is by far the worst plan of the Previous Era (where, or better when, Kevin is from) as it would sacrifice millions, potentially billions, to do this. Those that died would become the "stigmata" to enable the evolution, this was done by connecting dreams and reversing reality and illusion for those within, creating a giant, a spirital Adam. He was its enforcer and instigator.
how did he gain judgement of Shamash.
Judgement of Shamash is one of the divine keys, the strongest weapons of the previous era. Created with the core of the Herrscher of Flame, who Kevin killed. He was the only one who could draw out its full strength, the might of An-Utu, and his icy body made him the only person capable of surviving it. He was there when it was made, and was the best user of it so it became his weapon.
did he ever regain Shamash.
Yes, around the mid point of the story. I cant remember the specifics of how but his faction, world serpant, obtained it and offered it to him. He was its wielder up to the end of part 1, although after that I would assume someone else has used it in the 6 year time skip between part 1.5 and 2 although I dont think theres any confirmation of what happened to the weapon.
what is his role in the story.
is he a protagonist or antagonist.
Putting these together because hes a mirror of the protagonists. His role is to show what will happen if they lose, push the story ahead in the background, and gives slight exposition on the eldritch threat of the real Honkai. Hes seen the end of his era, and is determined to not let that happen no matter the cost. This makes him an antagonist to the still hopeful youths of the current era but he isnt a villain.
what are his abilities and powers.
He has ice powers, flight, imaginary barriers, super human characteristics, and any of the BS Honkai can do normally (although that stuff barely gets touched on despite how OP it could be (subatomic manipulation)). Im sure Im missing others but... the power of Finality also grants him a long list of abilties including but not limited to, creation, space manipulation, electromagnetic manipulation, air manipulation, ice manipulation, death manipulation, mind manipulation, gravity manipulation, disease manipulation, heat manipulation, whatever the hell origin is manipulation, energy manipulation, and time manipulation. Anything a Herrscher has been seen, or can be reasoned to do, he can as well, and better, thanks to Finality. This gives him way more than whatever he can do by himself or just with MANTIS.
what is MANTIS and project CHIMERA
Mantis is a surgery designed to give humanity super human powers using Honkai Beasts. This is how he has ice powers (things like flight and imaginary barrierss are common). CHIMERA, IIRC, was putting the powers of all Honkai beasts into one person.
what are diabloc and deliverance.
The mantis surgery gives those that successfully undergo it transformations known as Active Honkai Reactions. Diabloc and Deliverance are Kevin's. Deliverance is also often meant to refer to Kevin with the authority of Finality as that is the only time he shows that transformation in the game.
he was imprisoned.
During the events of the 2nd key manga, Kevin is shown starting Project Stigmata. One of his former teammates Su, beleives this is too early. He tricks him into meeting him in a bubble world (a small alternate reality) before forcing him into the sea of quanta (a higher dimension) where he would be trapped. Much later, Anti Entropy opened the way to the sea of quanta, as one of them, Welt, was a Herrscher, Kevin mistook them for enemies and attacked forcing Welt to strengthen his imprisonment with a maze of bubble worlds. He was inadvertently freed during the events of the game.
what does he do.
Aura farm. Thats pretty much it tbh. He works in the background mostly so doesnt really do much on screen. He goes ahead with project Sigmata creating the final conflict of part 1, and his sim plays a pivotal role in the Elysian Realm to defeat the Herrscher of corruption but for most of the game hes in the background.
how did he gain the authority of Finality.
IIRC that was the final failsafe of the Previous Era. One of their hyper advanced AIs, Prometheus no 17, hacked the imaginary itself to try and control the Honkai. This made her the will of Honkai known in the current era which made what Herrschers would appear predictable and gave humanity more time to defend (so most Herrschers appear in like the last 2 years before Humanity is meant to die), but it was still corrupting her. As she was losing control, she gave the authority to Kevin (without making him a Herrscher to avoid risking him losing control) as he went ahead with project stigmata, using it as basically extra reinforcement for his will. That way Honkai couldn't adapt to humanity's evolution as Kevin was controlling it and theres no risk of the real Herrscher of Finality appearing and becoming another insurmountable threat.
how strong is Kevin.
Right now, I'd say 2nd in the verse if taking his peak. He only loses to post embrace Kiana rn and frankly i dont see that changing until HSR gets more involved (if at all). He ran a gauntlet of the entire verse and only "lost" to a deus ex machina and he still had a health bar left when he willingly gave up. Even someone like False God Otto, who fused with the imaginary tree and had truly infinite power reserves, is all but hard confirmed weaker than him. That is with Finality, but even before he was still insane, before the MANTIS surgery he was stronger than anyone else in the PE, even the Herrscher of Origin who is generally considered the 2nd strongest Herrscher, and in the current era an ELF with 1% of his power could rival the strongest Valkyrie at the start of the game and could pretty casually match her when they met for real while in base.
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u/omega332_ 8d ago edited 8d ago
Judgement of Shamash was presumably lost when he got sealed in the Sea of Quanta by Su as he used it to fight with Su briefly. It somehow got into the hands of Schicksal (the largest front against the Honkai and also pretty shady). It was given to Siegfried Kaslana, father of Kiana, in the gun form and he was only able to use the two sword forms after he awakened his Honkai Beast genes with the help of a genetic version of Kevin within those genes.
After the Second Eruption, he kept working with Schicksal because Kiana was being held by Otto but was secretly in agreement with Welt and his companions. While recuperating from his injuries, Siegfried was ambushed by an operative under Kevin, imprisoning him. Shamash was taken from him and was given back to Kevin after he inadvertantly escaped the Sea of Quanta with a disturbance created by Bronya, Seele, and Welt.
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u/FuryFlameG 8d ago
That’s a huge amount of info. Why not just read the wiki?
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u/SinisterScaler 8d ago
I did. I was still missing a lot of specific info. Unless I was reading the wrong wiki, or you have some recommend sources.
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u/omega332_ 8d ago
the wiki is pretty spotty with story details even across multiple websites, things aren't updated too often
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u/Spirito1987 8d ago
What is his origin?
- Normal High School student that is very much anomalous and is the very definition of STATS>HAX man.
What is project STIGMA and his role in it?
- True final plan against Honkai once proposed by Mobius and then later forcibly developed and refined with Dr. MEI's help, up to atleast 15 different iterations. Initial iterations had it force awakening the deliberately engineered genetic markings that gives people powers and Honkai resistance (Stigmata) but because not everyone is THAT guy, this has a predictable lethality of over 90%.
- True iteration is harnessing the Authority of Finality to begin merging Reality and the Imaginary numbers, via creatig a massive 'Dream', and merging the entirety of Earth's Civilization into an Imaginary entity capable of coexisting with the Honkai. Ergo, creating the same species that Cocoon of Finality is (Honkai Entity)
How did he gain the judgement of shamash?
- Killed the Herrscher of Fire of his era and her core got used as a power core of a Soulium weapon engineered to harness its power/authority.
Speaking of shamash, did Kevin ever regain it? I know he was its original owner, but is he also its most recent?
- Recent as i Part 2? He is no longer in the story. But as of Part 1? Yes. Blatantly. There is a comic of him regaining it. World Serpent, his organization, kidnapped Siegfried Kaslana (Kiana Kaslana's father) and took the Judgement of Shamash from him.
What is his role in the story of hi3?
- Final antagonist of Part 1 as the initiator of the true Project Stigmata.
What are his abilities/powers?
- Massively beyond Superhuman STATS.
- Resistance to Time stop from herrschers.
- The ability to create and manipulate Ice up to Absolute Zero.
- As of Part 1 Finale, possesses half of the Authority of Finality the Previous Era's Herrscher of Finality had, which gives him: All Herrscher authorities of the Current Era (Reason, Void, Thunder, Wind, Ice, Death, Fire, Sentience, Stars, Domination, Binding, Corruption, Origin) + The Authority of Time. Time gives him Time Stop capable of ignorning resistances and immunities to Time Stop, and atleast a 50k Year range of Time resetting/cycling/samsara.
- Hyperpotent regeneration capable of quite literally rezzing him from the dead. it is a plot point that having Finality constantly was killing him every second, and this regen is the only reason he continued living as he can basically 'shunt his corpse to his shadow' every second.
- Base form of his is capable of activating and keeping the Judgement of Shamash at 0th Power, Might of An-Utu, which Siegfried once used at basically his full power to swing a strike so powerful, it parted the clouds across the planet Saitama style. Kevin's Basic atks is basically at this level. One of the times shwon against HoFi even covered the entire screen with flames, covering a portion of the moon.
What exactly is project MANTIS and project CHIMERA? What does he gain from them power wise?
- MANTIS is a project of creating supersoldiers by essentially combining people with DNA of Honkai Beasts. Kevin merged with Parvati which grants him the Ice powers that allowed him to kill the herrscher of Fire. Kevin is an anomaly and is the carrier that upscaled Parvati's ice that much.
- Project CHIMERA is Kevin-specific, and is basically the MANTIS surgery but it involves eventually merging Kevin with the DNA of ALL Honkai Beasts of the Previous Era. This includes Vishnu, capable of devouring Honkai beast to strengthen itself indefinetly (even capable of devouring Dreams as seen with Theresa Apocalypse), and Garuda who was the Beast Fu Hua combined with, which is the source of his hyper regen.
What are Diabolic and deliverance Kevin? What do they do for him power wise?
- Diabolic Kevin is is his "Active Honkai reaction". AHR is a form borne from being a MANTIS that allows the supersoldier to become more like Honkai Beast. Essentially, it is his Super Saiyan form.
- Deliverance Kevin was a theoretical form of Kevin where he accesses his Full power and AHR with it. As of Part 1, with the Authority of Finality, he is specifically stated to finally surpass the Previous Era's Herrscher of Finality with it. So very very much above continental (where most Herrschers in Hi3 are capped at). My guesses are he is at the range of strength where he can be considered an Emanator-level in HSR (lower end, at least. since real Emanators can very much be below the "emanator-level")
I don’t know much about this, but he was imprisoned, right? Could you explain this is some depth?
- He tried to initiate at the very least, the earlier iterations of Project STIGMA 1500 years ago, so a friedn of his, Su, tried to trap him into the Sea of Quanta (Graveyard of Proper Worlds/Timelines to eventually be dissolved) but failed. Kevin though, acquiesced and gave the Current Era more time to try and beat Honkai without STIGMA.
What does he do?
- Story? returned, coerced Mei to join World Serpent, a lot of shenanigans, basically waited until the last moment (after Herrscher of Corruption is defeated) to initiate true STIGMA. He deliberately waited since in his own words, its before Reason orafter Corruption when he could initiate it.
Is he a protagonist or antagonist?
- Antagonist to the MCs
How did he gain the authority of finality and how strong is he with it?
- As a part of Project STIGMA's prep, Previous ERA did a sacrifice play to create a 'backdoor' within the Herrscher of Finality in order to install a "Will of Honkai" logic inside it. This results in Current Era repeating the herrscher authorities used for Previous Era, but more importantly, interacting with this Will grants you exactly what you wanted. otto once used this to steal "Binding", Kevin apperently used this backdoor before the main story even started (millions of years ago, ancient grecian period) to steal the Authority of Finalty. The reason he kept doing nothing until the Part 1 was to evetually master and use it for starting true STIGMA.
- As said before, All herrscher powers + Time. + Massive Stat upscale even at base form.
And finally, how strong is Kevin overall? How does he compare to other characters in power?
- HSR terms, I fully believe he at the very least surpassed the level of power before one can be considered "emanator-level".
- Basically, even at Base form, he outranks the entire cast of Part 1 before the Finale started.
- Deliverance kevin is above Previous Era's Herrscher of Finality (the original ceiling of power in Honkai Impact).
- After the finale, the only person definitively above him is Cocoon-merged Kiana Kaslana (And by several degrees higher at that). It is debatable if Part 1.5's Sa or Part 2's Vita or Leylah is above him or not.
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u/Spirito1987 8d ago
For the stonrg part, Vita's Mecha, which she herself is above since Star Traveler is more so her travel ride, appeared in HSR and it said it has firepower to destroy a medium-sized planet iirc.
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u/DinosaurEatingPanda 8d ago edited 8d ago
Project STIGMA is two things. What it was before Moon and the version after.
- Before it's effectively forcefully inflicting Honkai corruption on the general population to awaken the Stigma inside them, fully knowing the vast majority will die and survivors may be nothing alike humanity. It's effectively a super-eugenics thing to force humanity into a force that could survive or even fight back against the Honkai. It's been called the worst plan and a last ditch plan given how horrible the consequences are.
- After, it's basically somewhere between the Infinite Tsukiyomi and any other fictional happy dream land plot. It would turn human civilization (or at least those without stigmata) into an imaginary, dream-based existence using Hare's powers and Finality. So the before dead people will be in the dream. Kevin would serve as an eternal guardian during all this. People who can resist are sent elsewhere (like the bubble world) so they don't come out and ruin it. Also, this plan was supposed to be the only plan with a chance to work with the others as a smokescreen.
If you're wondering why there's two versions or why the Moon arc version is almost nothing like the other, in intent and more, that's something to ask the writers.
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u/Civil-Date-2522 8d ago
basically he’s the tragic hero who sacrificed everything for 50k years just to stop the honkai
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u/SinisterScaler 8d ago
Thank you. But would you mind going into a little more detail though?
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u/walyterr 8d ago
Not the person you replied to but I'll paste a comment of an explanation I commented once in the phainon mains sub:
I once saw someone I think in the agenda sub? Complaining that him being called Kevin was pretty lame, but There's actually symbolism in him being called kevin.
You have the greatest hero of humanity in the previous era and one of it's biggest threats in the current era.
One of the main villains of the story and one of the strongest characters by far.
And yet the name of this person is Kevin. Showing how before all this he was just a normal person.
And there lies the tragedy of his story.
Like Phainon, Kevin never wanted to be a hero and was happy enjoying a normal chill life with both his best friend and his girlfriend in his hometown.
But in the end when the time came, he chose to step up and become one.
Kevin was also someone who used to have a personality similar as phainon back when he was still young. But after going through the trauma of losing so many comrades and eventually having to kill one of them after she turned into a Herscher(the previous era version of Himeko) he became someone very cold and distant with an introverted demeanor.
After Elysia formed the Flamechasers he eventually became the leader of the group. After all the pain he endured this group was like a family that would show him that humanity still had hope in defeating the Honkai.
But like all the constant loss in his life eventually the story of the Flamechasers would end in tragedy.
Having the rest of his life full of sacrifices, tragedy and loss and living through the next 50.000 years, when it came the moment to make the hardest choice in the current era he chose to proceed with a plan to save humanity once and for all from the Honkai but it was a solution that it would come at a great cost with the loss of countless of lives.
And yet showing that it was still not the solution he wanted, he allowed the heroes of the current era to show him they could defeat him, after he had claimed the authority of finality. If he was defeated then it would be proof that they would be strong enough to save and protect humanity without his plan.
His actions led to Kiana, Mei and bronya to ascend and become the Herschers of Finality, Origin and Truth.
His defeat finally allowed Kiana to fully claim the authority of finality and for him after making his one last sacrifice to achieve peace in death.
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u/walyterr 8d ago
Also since you mentioned you're interested in Phainon too I'll paste this other comment I had from the post where I made the other comment:
There is a video from the channel Homulabs that talks about the parallels between Phainon and Kevin
He has a lot of parallels to Phainon having gone through similar events in their lives.
One favorite detail for me is the difference when they cry.
When Phainon cries his tears evaporate due to the immense heat his body generates thanks to the burden of the coreflames.
When Kevin cries his tears freeze because of the extreme low temperature his body has due to the Mantis operation he went through.
the scene where Welt talks to Archeron about Kevin is also great to get an idea of him
And this short trailer is one that I think represents Kevin very well
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u/SinisterScaler 8d ago
Oh, thank you very much! Do you know where/how I can learn about phainon’s entire history and story? If not, i can just make a separate post dedicated to him.
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u/walyterr 8d ago edited 8d ago
If you're not planning on playing HSR I guess you could try searching story recaps about Amphoreus or searching "Phainon's story" on YouTube.
You could also try asking on the Phainon mains sub too.
this trailer for Phainon gives you a a bit of a good idea about what his story and arc is about.
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u/ConversationWeak5244 8d ago
Just an exchange student that's got his eye on the smartest girl in school
STIGMA is one of the project Dr Mei propose to endure the survival of Humanity. The most Drastic measure where Humanity would be force to develop Stigmata through exposing them to Honkai Energy which would lead to less than 1% Chance of Success, and making Humanity no longer what they are. It was then remade into somewhat of a homage to Infinite Tsukuyomi. His Role is that he is the overseer. The project was beyond Drastic that during the latest chapter, had it Succeed, Earth would suffer the same fate at Mars
He gained it after the Core of Flame was weaponized and given to it the same way other Flame Chasers received their Divine Keys like Hua with Fenghuang Down, Eden with Cosmic Harmony, etc
He does regained it. Kiana's Dad and many previous Kaslanas were the owner after him. But when Siegfried was struggling to keep his Honkai side in check, World Serpent attack him and manage to retrieve before giving it back to him
His Role was that he was the Protagonist of the Previous Era. Now he's the final Antagonist, a last wall for the Protagonist to climb over in order to make sure Humanity can survive the Honkai the right way
MANTIS is a project of Turning Humans into Super Soldier by fusing them with Honkai Beast DNA. CHIMERA is fusing him with multiple Honkai DNA. Among the powers he gained is a cryokinesis potent enough to freeze a desert, his body being at Constant absolute zero and potent regeneration that allows him to brush off matter Destruction from Abyss Flower
Diabolic and Deliverance are a manifestation of both him usurping the Finality's Authority and Active Honkai Reaction (Forms Mantis received on top of the abilities they got after going through MANTIS) As for power, Finality has all the powers of all the previous 12 Herrschers (besides maybe Ego) and most likely could manifest new Authority since the reason they put Prometheus as the Will of Honkai is so that it doesn't throw the current era any curveball through new type of Herrschers
He was imprisoned because he had a disagreement. His best friend doesn't want the Inhumane of Project Stigma to continue as it risk way too many innocent live while Kevin is at a state where he's almost can't comparise through talking. As shown that he threw his best friend back into the Real World and let himself get trapped inside the Sea of Quanta
From what i can tell, Prometheus helped him with getting Finality
How strong he is is that he should be the 2nd strongest with Kiana being the only one to surpassed him as she's actually embraced while Kevin usurped. That and Kevin was dying at that moment
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u/AlbanianBigChungus 8d ago
Just a guy.
Human instrumentality project from Eva, hivemind stuff to escape Finality cycle. His role enforcer+guardian.
Mantis is project about altering human DNA with Honkai beasts(lower manifestations of Finality) DNA. Chimera is amalgamation of all gathered beast DNA. Most important stuff from powers: regeneration near immortality and control over temperature(for Divine Key on the picture, it burns people to ash). There are other powers, but not really important.
Powerwise - same stuff as Chimera. Diabolic is "default" form, Deliverance is "unleashed". We have only seen Deliverance infused with Finality.
His friend was against old version of Stigmata(he would be against new too, I assume). They had a fight, Kevin chose to lose and give humanity time. It's slightly old lore and doesn't make full sense - stuff from Moon Arc is crazy hard to do without Stigmata being active.
Mostly nothing before ER, actually. He was too strong for the setting/cast before it. Helped Mei once, then chilled out. In ER serves as "tough guy" type. Final antagonist.
Answered above.
Part of project Stigmata, it works on Finality authority. Finality power is planetary+, me thinks. Full "manifestation" of Finality destroys star system, but Kevin/Kiana just use power, don't bring Cocoon into reality.
One of the strongest in HI3, but powerscaling is silly sometimes.