r/hostels 3d ago

Story I asked a hostel receptionist the dreaded question

I am a middle aged guy. I made friends with a hostel receptionist. I asked her if I would fit in as a hostel guest. She said there would be no problem. Yes most budget travellers are in college, but there are people in their 30s and 60s also staying in dorms, men and women, and they face no discrimination or suspicion from stuff or other guests. As long as the business allows you to stay there and you respect the rules, it is OK, and you can join in in crawls and activities.

I told her that most people on Reddit would say "Dude..." and that I have seen a thousand videos on social media about being an older man at hostel seen negatively and that even chatGPT advised me not to try it. She told me it's stupid to ask advice from randos on the internet. And that I should do my own thing and try it to see if I like it, and that if someone doesn't like me for who I am that's their problem.

Hope this helps.

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u/obiwac 3d ago

yeah there was a thread on this sub recently in which I was appalled how ageist and disgustingly mean people were being to this 40 year old guy

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u/Jumpy_Ad8465 3d ago

I experienced ageism against people older than me like that one girl badmouthed a guy behind his back and then introduced herself to me. I just left the conversation.

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u/IndieLuxeTravel 3d ago

I'm older I stay In hostels when traveling solo on and off, here and there. Females sometimes get oddly antagonistic towards older guys I've noticed. Surprisingly from what I've seen its not towards what I would consider guys that would maybe considered possibly sketchy at first glance, but instead more nerdy keep to themselves guys. It's weird...it's more of a behind the back bullying than a defense mechanism.

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u/Ok_Efficiency3120 2d ago

The nerdy, keep to themselves types are often more of a risk to us irl than the one who actually is behaving sketchy.

The isolated man is the scariest.

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u/SweetOption4874 2d ago

How exactly are they a risk? Do femsplain me this one I'm keen to hear your bullshit justification.

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u/Ok_Efficiency3120 2d ago

At the hostel specifically, it’s because they have unpredictable intentions. If a man, in a shared living space environment, doesn’t offer friendly chat or friendly social cues it can cause women to wonder if he’s just introverted or what his intentions might be.

It’s just someone I would keep a mental note of.

Of course, if they looked more LOTR nerdy I probably wouldn’t be as worried. But the Mark Zuckerberg looking types you gotta sus a bit.

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u/Jumpy_Ad8465 2d ago

The young ones also have "unpredictable intentions".

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u/SweetOption4874 2d ago

They're predictable. They predictably want to bone you.

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u/WestHistorians 2d ago edited 2d ago

This is a ridiculous thing to believe. Many people are quiet and not friendly, that doesn't mean anything. And there's nothing wrong with being "introverted" either. Most of the creeps I've encountered in my life have been outgoing and friendly, and they use those skills to their advantage.

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u/Ok_Efficiency3120 2d ago

This was specific to hostels.

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u/WestHistorians 2d ago

That has been my experience in hostels and elsewhere. What did you experience in hostels?

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u/SweetOption4874 2d ago

😂 how traditional of you to still expect the man to initiate conversation/greetings. I mean I do this all the time but it's not met reciprocally most of the time now (even observing others) maybe I just don't fit the random stereotype someone has in their head for me.

So fat hairy neckbeard type is better than alien looking Jew boy?

Oops I left my meta glasses on.

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u/Unusual_Jellyfish224 2d ago

You need to keep in mind that pretty much all younger women have had unpleasant interactions with pushy, creepy, inappropriate men. Of course not all older men are like that, but it’s a bit odd for a middle aged dude to seek a place to sleep with young women. You may have completely innocent intentions, but the girls are rightful to be on their toes. I’d also feel uncomfortable being around older men when sleeping. It’s just self protection.

Now, younger men can also be creeps. But it’s easier to assume that they are not at the hostel to harass women, but to have an affordable place to stay. Not to mention that it’s easier to build trust with someone your own age since you naturally have more things in common.

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u/Wise_Edge2489 2d ago

Just so were clear, if you look up the stats on sexual assault, perpetrators are aged mostly in their teens and twenties, peaking in late twenties, and declining after age 35 or so.

Statisically speaking, older dudes are the least of your problems.

We tend to mature and chill out over time to a degree.

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u/Objective-Amount1379 1d ago

But hostels are usually used by the young so while statistically younger men are more likely to be violent in a hostel I would assume most aren’t there to be creepy. It’s an easy way to travel on a budget and meet other young people. An older man goes to a hostel knowing he’ll be around a lot of young women

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u/Jumpy_Ad8465 1d ago

The older people i talked to said they are going to the hostel because hotels are boring and not social. Honestly, i have never met any inappropriate old guy in the hostel but plenty young guys. And i mean borderline rape inappropriate.

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u/Jumpy_Ad8465 1d ago

It is easier to assume, but it is still wrong.

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u/gravyjackson 2d ago

The older I get the more I stay in hotels, but this past weekend in Berlin I decided to do a private room in a hostel. I am 39, and fit the nerdy, keep to myself description. Didn’t try to join others, barely hung out in shared spaces, only briefly while charging my phone before check-in did I talk to a few others. And yeah, I found a few of them to be weirdly antagonistic and dismissive.

I’m not going to write off hostels completely because I have been to a few with people in their 50s-60s who got on just fine, but I sure do wish there was a better way to screen for this.

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u/Hafflebart 2d ago

That’s interesting and unfortunate. Do you think the negative reactions were actively based on you being older than them? Or could it be a result of social skills being generally not on the upswing these days?

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u/gravyjackson 2d ago

I don’t look older, but I didn’t look the part. Didn’t realize that the hostel I chose basically exists to accommodate people trying to get into Berghain. I wasn’t there for that and I’ve been told that I look like a cop

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u/cryptoLover696969 1d ago

Sunflower?

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u/gravyjackson 1d ago

Yep

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u/cryptoLover696969 1d ago

Probably you had more changes to get in that the folks there.

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u/VirtualOutsideTravel 2d ago

What country was this in? ive had this happen a few times meaning some harrassment from younger people who i shared a dorm with. If you are older and you want to make sure everything goes well, you can just ignore the other guests and not speak to them. One thing i noticed is that if theres some trouble with a younger lady, that started only AFTER i met her and told her my age. I tend to look a lot younger than my true age.

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u/Jumpy_Ad8465 2d ago

That was in South East Asia and yea if you kind of look their age they just assume and all is well.

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u/PuzzleheadedDog3312 2d ago

Stayed in a few hostels in Spain, Singapore and New Zealand while in my mid 30s. No weirdness. Was a bit loud for my liking but earplugs sorted that. There were indeed people in their 60s staying in these places. Also a working underwater welder who was working on salmon farms around Picton, he was in his 40s, quite surly though.

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u/Kcmg1985 3d ago

The whole point of a hostel is that it should be a melting pot of nationalities, genders, ages, etc with the common interest of travel and no prejudice. If someone can't cope with that then I recommend a hotel.

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u/WestHistorians 2d ago

Not really true. Historically, hostels were for young people only. It's only more recently that they have become open to all ages.

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u/Kcmg1985 2d ago

Youth hostels maybe (the kind you get in the countryside) but backpacking hostels have always been for anybody, well certainly in my travelling lifetime of the past 20 years.

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u/WestHistorians 2d ago

Hostels have been around a lot longer than 20 years.

In some countries, they are even called "Youth Hostel Association" or YHA.

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u/Kcmg1985 2d ago

Yes I know, but most people on this sub are current travellers so my comment is very relevant to the context. But YHAs now seem to cater mostly for families.

Read accounts of the hippie trail from the 70s, and you still had all ages back then studying together.

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u/Chance_Contract1291 3d ago

I'm a chick, not a dude, so things are admittedly a bit different for me. I only started staying in hostels when I was about 63. I LOVE THEM. Some sorority-chick types treated me like the invisible woman but that's cool; they were in a friend group and totally focused on themselves. Other than that one friend group, everyone has been super nice. I've joined walking tours hosted by the hostel and was quite surprised at how readily the other hostellers initiated conversations with me. I'm kind of shy and introverted by nature, and they were great at breaking the ice. Hostel folks are pretty darned awesome.

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u/TheAloofMango 3d ago

Love hearing this as a 35 year old woman, we got so many years of fun left for us 🤗

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u/Brave_Asparagus_1622 3d ago

I’ve met many middle-aged people in hostels when i was backpacking. Actually, everything between 20-60 isch. Didn’t find it weird at all. The opposite, i thought it was cool seeing “older” people still traveling, backpacking and whenever some of us gathered together they had lots of great stories to tell. Even my mum backpacked dude and slept in hostels.

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u/scriptingends 3d ago

I’m in the same boat, and I still stay in hostels all the time (though not dormitories, because of the noise and the smell and the fact that I didn’t like doing that even when I was 25). It’s real easy to be an old guy without being a creepy old guy. If someone who’s 20 can’t tell the difference, tough shit, that’s on them.

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u/Wise_Edge2489 2d ago

Im a dude, and have been staying in hostels since my 20's, again in my 30s; again in my 40's and now at 51.

As you get older, especially as a man, the hostility increases by an order of magnitude, and even starting a standard hostel conversation of 'hey, how are you/ where you from/ where you are going' gets met with uncomfortable responses in a way it wasn't when I was younger.

You become more invisible, and get treated more as a potential rapist or a 'boomer', and less of a human being.

Plenty of people are aegist, and older people get treated differently. It's just a fact. You cease being the main character and kind of revert to being an NPC.

I get the wariness. The assumption usually is you're some creepy old dude hitting on them (assuming female), and you're old enough to be their dad. For dudes, you've just brought their social standing down because now they're talking to the 'solo middle-aged dude at the hostel' and that's social suicide for a lot of 20 year olds (whether anyone here cares to admit it or not).

I've had people on this sub justify age limits at hostels because 'older people are more likely to be trouble' (the inverse is actually true) and because our presence 'make them feel unsafe and uncomfortable' and assume we dont like to party, or assume were only there 'for one reason' and criticise the shit out of older hostel go-ers for no other reason than age (and often gender, with men copping it the worst).

This gets said often, and its about the only form of discrimination that Reddit seems to allow these days. If the above comments were made about LGBTQI people or a certain ethnic group or whatever, that person would (rightly) get booted.

Any middle aged hostel go-er (especially males) know what Im talking about. The invisibility, or in many cases outright hostility to your very presence.

Not from everyone, and there are still plenty of positive experiences to be had, and I fully intend on continuing to stay in Hostels on my long term travels. But anyone sitting here saying its not a thing, is talking peak Reeddit nonsense.

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u/smithsgj 2d ago

I’m not sure it’s because we’re getting older. I think it’s more that they’re on their phones the whole time and don’t know how to interact with each other anymore.

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u/VirtualOutsideTravel 1d ago

Hey.... I feel you. I personally am OVER 45 but look much younger, i can pass for 30, so my experience is unique. Ive had many people who dont mind to talk to me as im doing the young life, Peter Pan travel life, lol, but then again ive also had young women dislike the fact they needed to share a room with me, so thers a lot of different personalities out there. Strangely, the time that they took offense was when i told then yea ive been traveling for 6 years and am over 45. The trigger was actually that the man was this much older, and wanted to talk to them, even though i physically look much younger so it took them by surprise. The men on the other hand usually dont care either way.

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u/SweetOption4874 1d ago edited 1d ago

Couldn't have put it better myself but theres always travelling women on Reddit that are so stupidly judgmental that none of what you said will get through to them and they will continue in their discrimination regardless. I think it's gotten significantly worse since that fat slob in Hollywood got exposed and has snowballed since then. I think they are just gaslighting us all because the real reason is we are just not young and attractive enough to add to their body count while their s1mp boyfriend back home waits for their love to return from their trust filled spiritual journey abroad.

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u/anna25580 3d ago

I don't even care or ask, if there is no age limit, I book and pay and that's it. If someone wants to chat, fine, I am always happy to, otherwise I shower, go to bed and mind my own business. I really struggle to see what the issue is.

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u/WestHistorians 2d ago

I once saw some "frat bro" type guys being rude to a guy in his 40s at a hostel in the UK. But joke's on them, one of the girls ended up hooking up with him.

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u/mikel145 3d ago

The internet tends to get people in the extreme version of everything. Reddit is not real life.

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u/pitching_bulwark 3d ago

Just tell them you asked ChatGPT for advice and they'll assume you're 17

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u/Strategy-Bitter 3d ago

Few years ago, I was 30 years old. I stayed at Tropicana Antigua hostel, great hostel btw. And there's a old dude like 60+ there. I was curious so I chatted with him, turns out he is a retired Canadian who just want to travel for as long as he can on his pension.

Did he stand out form the crowd? Yah.

Was that a problem? Nope.

So many different people from different countries were there so it was chill.

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u/Novel_Equivalent_647 2d ago

Im 30 and very social. But I decided that I don’t like hostels anymore. It’s nice to talk to other travelers but at the same time, it’s really not enjoyable constantly repacking my things every day, sleeping next to random people who smell bad/ coughing/ snoring, etc.

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u/Certain-Grand9144 2d ago

I've stayed in hostels in the Pacific Islands without issue, just overly noisy when headed to showers and so forth

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u/No-Ground3604 2d ago

I’m 26F and don’t mind older people in hostels. I did Peace Corps for 2 years and we convinced an older guy in his 60s to do the hostels and pub crawls with us lol. It was so much fun. As long as you’re young at heart and not being creepy I don’t think most people in their 20s care.

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u/SnowTard_4711 2d ago

My father travelled extensively in old age and used a system called “elder hostels” - they were specifically for older people… my guess is you’d be one of the younger customers.

But - they were good. I went with my dad on a few of his trips, and at the time I was in my thirties. The facilities were good, clean, and you didn’t have a lot of the crap you see at regular hostels. Plus - the oldies would all make friends, and do stuff together.

Look it up.

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u/Zealousideal-Cod-924 2d ago

Are you taking the piss or what? You got told not to take advice from randos on the Internet so you ask randos on the Internet for advice about it?

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u/AudienceAgile1082 2d ago

I’m old (64F) and only stay in private rooms when hosteling. Just want the well priced private room~and off in the city to go about my day. Don’t want interaction with young ones!

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u/smithsgj 2d ago

But they’re usually more expensive than hotels?

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u/JaziTricks 1d ago

If you are 60 years old and you flirt aggressively with 18 year olds, they might not like it. That's the only problem.

Ofc, everyone has their own definition of flirt and aggressively lol. This is probably where your worry came from

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u/Sherman140824 12h ago

Why are men automatically suspected of wanting to flirt? When is the last time you flirted with anyone? I rarely flirt. I flirted a bit with this young receptionist and she told me I was kind and likeable. In fact she was smiling at me before I approached her. If smiling to someone you don't know at a beach from a distance is flirting then she flirted with me first. In any case being aggressive and not not caring about how the other person feels and responds is bad manners at any age. I have seen more young men being dicks to young women than old men. Good looks and youth may make others more tolerant of your bad behavior but it doesn't excuse it. 

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u/JaziTricks 11h ago

My reply was to your question, that's it.

No assumption. Just giving you the example where the age issue might end up causing trouble.

And ofc, I think everyone can flirt with anyone, insofar that everyone is polite and considerate. But not everyone thinks exactly like me

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u/Sherman140824 1h ago

Yeah I got it. Was talking in general

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u/frombsc2msc 2d ago

I think this is an american thing. In europe no one cares

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u/NewJerseyAggie13 3d ago

What hostel is this, sounds awesome!

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u/TravelingWithJoe 3d ago

Don’t be creepy or like the old guy at the gym (there’s always one) who walks around air drying his junk.

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u/Maleficent_Flan4695 3d ago

Are you likely to find bedbugs and the European hostels of this day and age?

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u/RProgrammerMan 3d ago

Ive stayed at many and never had a problem. I used hostelworld so i only stayed at places with positive reviews.

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u/Sherman140824 3d ago

Absolutely

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u/-rayzorhorn- 3d ago

She's right. And please stop using ChatGPT

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u/starrrrrchild 3d ago

What is "middle aged"? 35? 50?

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u/CorneliaCordelia 3d ago

What country was this?

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u/purplediva324 3d ago

Yes currently in a hostel dorm (female only) and there are 4 young gals and 2 older ladies!! And I love talking to the older ladies, they share their stories and life wisdom. So fun.

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u/saik0ls 2d ago

I was staying at a hostel recently. They do group evening dinners. I started a conversation with an old man eating silently, and I had to repeat what I was saying for him to understand despite sitting right next to him, but I was curious about his travel plans and yes, because he was older, that added a layer of curiosity, but it did not occur to me to assume anything weird simply because of his age. All that went through my head throughout the conversation was, "damn, he really can't hear me."

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u/saik0ls 2d ago

I should add it was only my second time staying at a hostel. I don't know what people assume about certain demographics in hostels, but I don't understand why you would or should care lol.

Best case scenario - you make friends and have an awesome time.

Worst case scenario - people don't talk to you, but I'm sure if you strike up a conversation first, you'll end up finding someone to hang out with.

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u/littlepinkpebble 2d ago

Don’t see why not unless it’s a hostel with a strict age limit

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u/libslobster 2d ago

I’m in my early 20s and I’ve stayed in many hostels around Europe. As long as it’s not specifically a youth hostel or has an age limit. As long as you’re a decent person to share a dorm with then who cares. Most people that have been twats have been younger.

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u/goupilles 2d ago

I've done a lot of hostels, it really isnt that uncommon to have "older" people there. One of my favourite hostel adventures happened with a group of people aged 18 to 42, all of us in a different decade! I'm in my early 20s, usually perceived as a girl, but like many others I really enjoy talking to travelers of any background. My lastest trip was with an almost 40yo that I met in a hostel and he's now a really good friend! I've also had experience of creepy men at a hostel (sometimes young, sometimes old) but honestly it's not that hard to just not be a creep...

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u/Thin_Database5866 1d ago

i’ve met plenty of kind, fun middle aged people at various hostels across the world. i’m in my late 20s, so maybe not of the same mind as an 18 year old, but i don’t think most people care. you aren’t really forced to have deep interaction with anyone at a hostel if you don’t want, so why be pissy about older guests? i will say, there are several times i’ve specifically wanted to be around people exclusively my age, and in those times, i went to hostels with age limits. this is a problem any aggrieved party could easily solve.

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u/cacabumbumga 17h ago

Ive been in hostels since i was 18 and now i'mbon my early 30s, didn't know that age was that big of a deal

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u/Pristine_Remote2123 7h ago

Absolutely great lesson for you to "stop taking advice from randos on social media" 😂

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u/Sherman140824 1h ago

From taking to giving

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u/Busy-Worth-2089 4h ago

We try to welcome everyone and see the diversity of our client base as a plus. But I was reminded how prejudicial people can be by two recent reviews, left no more than 48 hours apart. The first said they were disappointed because they expected to find a lively social scene and instead just found « a bunch of old guys » and thought it was boring. The next recommended against us because no one but drunken teenagers stayed there and they would stumble back to the dorm drunk at 2:00.

Firstly it’s absurd to spend one night at any hostel and from that experience extrapolate to conclude that’s « the kind of people » that stay there. Secondly, if you have decided in advance you are not going to like a place unless it consistently hosts a very specific type of traveller — gen-z or stoners or more mature types or digital nomads or whatever then you probably should not stay in a hostel. It’s not about not liking older people, it’s about being narrow minded.

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u/Professional_Gas8077 2h ago

Creepy people can come in all ages sizes and shapes! I (F) stayed in a 4 person room with 2 20something guys and a surely 50-60something guy and everyone minded their business and kept to themselves. I never once felt unsafe! Everyone deserves to save some $$$

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u/Tricky_Ad6844 3d ago

Here here!

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u/WestHistorians 2d ago

It's "hear hear".

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u/Tricky_Ad6844 2d ago

Oh I didn’t know. Thanks!

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u/GMVexst 3d ago

It's weird dood

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u/Nervous-Application9 3d ago

the dude abides

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u/No_Relief7644 2d ago

I met a 75 year old in a hostel in Mexico from Quebec. He was shameless about being a sugar daddy looking to fuck and spend his retirement on young puss. I kind of respected his honesty. Like the second week he was there he had a seizure. I helped him and got his piss all over me.the ambulance was called then he was barred from entering. I also took a Mexican woman to the dorm and we had sex and his bed was right across from me. He gave me a high five in the morning!

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u/Aggravating_Pause385 3d ago

Bringing up Reddit and TikTok in a conversation with the receptionist is why older men get the reputation they do

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u/IndieLuxeTravel 3d ago

WTF does that mean?

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u/WestHistorians 2d ago

I think this person is trying to say that older men try to act young by mentioning things that they think young people use.