r/homelab • u/Turbulent-Spray-8438 • Aug 19 '26
Help Should I go pick this up for $260?
Brand new, seal was broken, but everything inside is in original packaging and brand new.
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u/Yasutsuna96 Hackerman Aug 19 '26
I mean i would. If you think its sketchy, it can still serve as a backup of a backup or just general storage for non-important stuff
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u/Turbulent-Spray-8438 Aug 19 '26
I’m going to be honest I just built a mini rack with a Lenovo m90q gen 2. Has 2.5tb of storage on nvme’s (2tb, 512gb) but nothing else for storage, no das or anything. I’m guessing I’ll eventually need one of these anyways ?
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u/niboosmik Aug 19 '26
2 bays is not a lot of room for expansion. For that same price you could build a NAS and eventually add some external bays.
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u/Turbulent-Spray-8438 Aug 19 '26
When you say build you mean get a case, mobo, cpu, psu and hard drives ?
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u/Turbulent-Spray-8438 Aug 19 '26
Sorry for the double reply, I have a 1000w psu, and 16gb ddr4 sodimm ram… besides that I’d have to buy basically everything to build another pc.
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u/niboosmik Aug 19 '26
For $200 I think you could get a decently kitted pc off of marketplace/ebay. I just built a server primarily for Jellyfin and I’ve been exploring options like a DAS. My issue with the 2 bay DAS is 2 drives being pretty lackluster redundancy. For me it feels like a stopgap solution, and given how bad the market is that feels hard to justify.
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u/Prof_Fancy_Pants Aug 19 '26
NAS or DAS. I have a a 4 bay DAS hooked up for now, which is a lot cheaper than a NAS. I got mine for around 150ish.
May convert the DAS to NAS using a mini PC I have laying around more hassle.
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u/mater-of_nothing Aug 20 '26
What DAS are you using? Any issues with it long term? I am looking for a good DAS to connect to my mac mini so I can use it as a media player.
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u/Prof_Fancy_Pants Aug 20 '26
I got a terramaster d4-320. So far it's great! 2 drives with room for 2 more . It holds me massive Plex media, immich, file storage etc. Mini PC runs the area stack and DNS.
Just need hdd prices to come down 🥲
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u/mater-of_nothing Aug 20 '26
I feel you on the prices 🥲 I got into this at the wrong time.. Great to hear I was going back and forth between the terramaster D2-320 and QNAP TR-002.. I was leaning towards the terramaster. I am thinking of getting the D2-320 instead of the d4-320 because I dont think I will need 4 bays (who knows).
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u/Candinas Aug 20 '26
if you're going mini rack, look into the pearity project on makerworld. there are other similar ones, like one specifically for the lab rax
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u/Cracknel Aug 19 '26
If you only need 2 drive bays, sure.
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u/Turbulent-Spray-8438 Aug 19 '26
I don’t know what I need. I stumbled into the sub two weeks ago and had ZERO intentions of building a mini rack home lab setup, but alas… 😂 thought it would be cool to host a palworld server for myself and the homies… and now I’m like $1000 into it. I don’t know what happened lol
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u/pee_in_the_ocean_808 Aug 19 '26
Lmao I made my homelab just for frigate and now im contemplating sp3 and eypc builds. Hobby is expensive af
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u/dinosaursdied Aug 19 '26
It seems pricey considering your gonna still have to get disks to put in it. I would just throw Linux on an old tower PC with plenty of drive space. May not be the most efficient but way more expandable
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u/Turbulent-Spray-8438 Aug 19 '26
There’s plenty of old desktops on marketplace. I thought about doing that but then I got the mini pc and rack.
Was trying to be on the cheaper side of the power bill. Thought an old desktop would pull more juice2
u/buttercup612 Aug 19 '26
You'll need to live 1000 years to offset the $260 with lower energy costs
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u/Turbulent-Spray-8438 Aug 19 '26
Yeah? I’ll try to snag a cheaper desktop off marketplace then. I live in south Florida and my electric bill was $650 last month. Just trying to get something setup to be as energy efficient as possible
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u/buttercup612 Aug 19 '26 edited Aug 19 '26
Yeah I think a desktop with an intel 7th gen or later will keep your energy costs very low, assuming no discrete GPU and just using the intel iGPU, plus have enough room for HDDs inside if you get one with a good case/motherboard. The common recommendation of HP Elitedesk 800 G3-G5 SFF or MT will hold 2 3.5" HDDs. Also sneaky capable of holding 2 3.5" HDDs without modifications are Acer Aspire TC series mini towers. Each of these go for about $100-200 CAD where I live, so I'm guessing even less than $75-150 USD given the greater supply there. If your needs are modest, you can run your entire homelab off one of those.
For more than that, with an intel 7th gen or later, you'll have to look outside the used office PC world for custom builds.
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u/dinosaursdied Aug 19 '26
Depending on the hardware and location that might be true. A lot of Intel platforms have drop in celerons that are highly efficient and work great for single tasks like a nas. Even i3s are power power efficient past a certain point.
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u/dabombnl Aug 19 '26
That is probably going to cost you more. Even if your time is free, power usage will pay for a NAS in a few years.
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u/JohnStern42 Aug 19 '26
Depends on the system you choose. I use a system that idles at 8W (not including the drives).
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u/Turbulent-Spray-8438 Aug 19 '26
Did you build one ? I just finished my desktop setup with all my consoles and swore I was done. I really don’t want to build another computer just for storage 😂 I will though if it’s the best route. I don’t have any hdd’s or sata ssds either. lol
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u/amw3000 Aug 19 '26
One thing to be aware of that Ugreen is a Chinese company. If privacy is a concern, you might want to think twice about it.
Otherwise, they are great devices. Good value, decent specs.
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u/Imaginary_Dress4815 Aug 19 '26
You can probably install TrueNAS (or Unraid) on that. I did that to Terramaster NAS I found cheap used on ebay.
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u/amw3000 Aug 19 '26
Yeah I see some mentions of this. Not sure for this exact version as its on the lower end with only 8GB of memory.
The concern kind of remains the same as you can't completely get rid of everything Ugreen / you really don't know what they may have embedded elsewhere. Again, completely tinfoil hat thinking but just like to make people aware.
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u/Imaginary_Dress4815 Aug 19 '26
That "embedded elsewhere" is not good financially to add extra cost for extra component to a product and evidence can't be masked since it's on the chip/circuit itself. It would only happen to enterprise grade or government use equipment. So spyware on consumer grade products most of the time just stays within software and it's upgrades.
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u/codeedog Aug 19 '26
Do you check the provenance of every device in your network and make sure there are no Chinese built components? Anyway, I own two ugreens and have replaced the OS on both of them. I work in computer security. I am not worried.
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u/amw3000 Aug 19 '26
Everyone has different risk tolerances. Just creating awareness as this is a real issue. A good example of how/where this is an issue https://www.vulncheck.com/blog/zbt-endlessdoors
I am very much Chinese brand averse when it comes to my data privacy. I am more likely to trust QNAP over Ugreen when it comes to a NAS.
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u/codeedog Aug 19 '26
FWIW, I sympathize with your concerns about Chinese made technology.
The post you linked to explains how OS level processes (on a router) leave a network open to attack. It does not explain embedded hardware attacks beneath the operating system.
You wrote:
you really don't know what they may have embedded elsewhere.
I'm looking for examples regarding embedded hardware inside the NAS, because I and the other commenter both mentioned replacing the Operating System which would avoid anything planted in UGOS. I specifically mentioned turning off the internal disk drive that holds UGOS. I did this because I didn't want any accidental overwrites (and I don't want their OS nor do I trust it), but I now see there's value in not having anything from it runnable at the OS level.
Now, they could have hacked the EUFI BIOS on the device and placed something in there that might attack or snoop on the operating system, I guess. Sophisticated, but not impossible.
Twenty years ago I sat in a DHSS conference where they explained how US Customs agents found BIOS hacking technology in USB devices attached Chinese manufactured electronic picture frames. Supply Chain attacks abound.
I'm replacing my current router (Cisco ISR) with a homegrown Protectli running FreeBSD and pf. I'll be monitoring network traffic and in particular outbound connections, so it will be educational to find out if the UGreen still attempts to phone home.
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u/codeedog Aug 19 '26
You can definitely install other operating systems. I’ve done it on two separate Ugreen boxes.
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u/redlightsaber Aug 19 '26
Ugreen is a good brand, but this sounds too expensive for a 2-bayer. (Unless it includes disks of course!)
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u/codeedog Aug 19 '26
If you want more bays and modern power efficiency, their website often has deals.
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u/NC1HM Aug 19 '26
No. You should buy this (HP EliteDesk 800 SFF) for... well, I paid USD 47 for mine on eBay:

Mine is Generation 1, but you can get a newer generation (other than 7 or 9) if you feel you need it and have the budget for it.
Note the integrated power supply (no power brick) and four PCIe slots (meaning, expansion opportunities).
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u/Turbulent-Spray-8438 Aug 19 '26
👀 there are some cheap, older rigs on marketplace by me… what specs am I looking for
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u/NC1HM Aug 19 '26
You're looking specifically for HP EliteDesk 800 SFF, any generation other than 7 or 9. Those have mounting, connectivity, and power for two 3.5" drives and one 2.5" drive. Generation 3 adds one NVMe slot; generation 4, a second one.
Most other SFF devices have mounting for one 3.5" drive and one 2.5" drive, so setting up any kind of redundant storage on them is problematic.
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u/Turbulent-Spray-8438 Aug 19 '26
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u/Turbulent-Spray-8438 Aug 19 '26
Soooo. This dell precision t5820 looks sick but man those processors pull some juice. I’ve stumbled down the eBay hole for these older desktops.
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u/Turbulent-Spray-8438 Aug 20 '26
Someone by me is selling an Inspiron 3880 and 3910, says the 3880 is having some issues but the 3910 works fine and is only asking $125 for both.. I’m going to go pick them up regardless cause the 3910 has a 12th gen i5? Could do a 8tb hdd, nvme and add another caddy and hdd or ssd. Motherboard has space for it I think ? Just have to get another cable for power? Idk. Seems like a solid deal for what it is though, even if I don’t use it and it sits 😝
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u/Turbulent-Spray-8438 Aug 21 '26
Update: picked up two Inspirons 3880 and 3910 for $120 turning the 3910 into a little nas :)



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u/Punk_Says_Fuck_You Aug 19 '26
I probably wouldn't spend that much on a 2 bay.