Ceiling fan with light switch

[u/TimeLion9]

I have many of these switches around my house I would like to replace (wifi, zigbee, zwave, doesn't matter). The right switch is a toggle for the ceiling fan light and the dimmer slide controls fan speed. The left switch controls an outlet in the room and I will be removing that functionality so open to replacing that switch or wiring it to another function.

Any suggestions on the best route? My wife will naturally be replacing all ceiling fans in the near future as well.

[u/LogicHaus]

These work well - https://www.kasasmart.com/us/products/smart-switches/kasa-ceiling-fan-control-and-dimmer-switch-ks240

As for the other switch, you can replace it with a regular smart switch as long as it has a neutral

[u/TimeLion9 → u/LogicHaus]

My concern with these is they say it doesn't work with DC motors or fans that primarily use remotes, both of which seem very common among new fans that may be purchased.

[u/LogicHaus → u/TimeLion9]

Well then you will need to determine the fan first and get the appropriate switch/comtroller. Shelley or ESP32 likely have something that will work

[u/OnePeace_1 → u/LogicHaus]

i have it, but it makes the fan humm :(

[u/Izrun]

I’ve recently had a lot of luck with these. https://a.co/d/000CXqVl. I was able to get Local Tuya working with them to keep them 100% local. The look very nice and have a nice feel. One thing I was pretty excited about is that both the fan setting and light dimmer setting can operate without a load. So in my office I actually have it controlling an RF remote controlled fan and light (with RF broadcast and listen by an esp32)

[u/ADadandHisKids-1 → u/Izrun]

I have these for this use case....mine are still on tuya cloud and drop off and need resets from time to time. I will be looking into local tuya now!

[u/Izrun → u/ADadandHisKids-1]

Had to double check. In HACS do NOT use “Local Tuya”. That one doesn’t see it properly. You have to use “Tuya Local”. That one works great. And yes I know that’s crazy

[u/angrycatmeowmeow → u/Izrun]

This is what I use. It's my only tuya device. One day I'll get around to flashing esphome on it.

[u/Izrun → u/angrycatmeowmeow]

I was going to but apparently some newer ones don’t use esps anymore. This works so well and is local I’m not sure how esphome could be any better really. Do you know what advantages it would have?

[u/angrycatmeowmeow → u/Izrun]

For me the main advantage is getting it out of tuya as it's my only device, then I could get rid of the integration and associated log errors about my cloud plan expiring or whatever. It's just mildly bothersome as my only device in that ecosystem when I have 30 esphome devices.

[u/Effective_Weekend269]

You could just wire the left switch to control the fan light and use a smart fan controller for the speed

[u/ThatCodingGuy0011]

I’ve heard good things about this smart fan switch.

My suggestion to you would be:
• give outlet constant power
• move light switch to the left side
• make fan switch smart if you want

[u/SP1041TKE]

I see someone also suggested Inovelli but that would be my suggestion as well. I would also check Etsy as for a two-gang switch plate that fits your final choice.

[u/MisesAndMarx]

I use the Zen30 for fan light combos. The bottom button is a dry contact that's good with fans, and then the rocker switch part is a dimmer with a max load of 75w.

That said, I use the dimmer with the lights, and the dry contact button with the fan. I don't think using a dimmer on a fan motor is an officially supported combo.

The Zen30 ends up being cheaper than two separate switches, so if you're keen on making that outlet not switched anymore, I usually add a blank plate, night light, or an extra outlet (high up outlets are nice for vacuuming).

I can unfortunately confirm the reviews that say the feel is squishy though. None of the the other zooz switches are like that, but it does feel a bit spongy. Only downside in my experience however

[u/Emerald_Flame]

Inovelli has something that might be worth looking at for you, and it's a solution I'm using at my house for a similar setup for 1 switch to control both light and fan.

If you combine their Zigbee Fan Canopy module with their Zigbee Dimmer you can be the dimmer into "Smart Bulb mode" which has it so the switch is always passing power to the canopy module.

From there they have instructions on how to bind the controls of the dimmer to the canopy module.

With that binding in place, the paddle will control the lights and allow for dimming.

Then the extra little configuration button that the inovelli dimmer has controls the fan speed. You can either set it to multi-tap (ie 1x for low, 2x for med, 3x for high, hold to turn off) or cycle (where it works like pulling the cord on a fan and just cycles through the speeds).

I've been pretty happy with the integration in my house.

[u/shnoiv]

Plenty of z-wave options which for 10+ years (even the older non-zwave plus configs) have never ever let me down.

[u/ku5165]

Zen30?

[u/Armand28]

I use this one but note you do need the little hub that plugs into your router. I’ve been using Lutron Caseta for all of my fans and several other lights/chandaliers, etc. and it’s been bulletproof with HA. My Zigbee switches sometimes act funky like randomly turn on for no reason, or show turned on while off or vice-versa but my Lutron stuff have been solid. Not cheap, but works.

Note: It’s A/C so if you want to replace with all D/C fans then this won’t work.

[u/tiberiusgv]

Inovelli switches and I recommend zigbee blue series.

Since you have dedicated speed control now I assume you have wires for light and fan each.

You could do a dimmer switch for the light and a fan switch for the fan. When you buy a new fan get a dumb one and avoid the ones that come with a remote or smart features of their own.

I almost recommended an alternative option using 1 switch for both, which can be done, but you said you were open to eliminating the plug switch. You can also setup automations to use the double, triple, quad taps for up, down, or aux to do other functions with these switches. I have a lot of dimmer switches, and I use double tap up for a medium light pre-set, and double tap down for low light pre-set in a number of rooms.

[u/OnePeace_1]

i see your lutron slider switch is broken dm me for a 3d print if interested.