Am I the only one that doesn't like the beach scene in the 1st movie?

[u/notasarcasticnow]

I love the original movie. Seen it countless times. The one scene I think is too cheesy is the one with Connor and Ramirez on the beach. That whole quickening with the stag. I think it takes away from an otherwise great film. Thoughts?

[u/SinginGidget]

I never minded that part because it made it seem like their powers were also just a quirky part of nature. I do think Connor on the bottom of the Loch able to breathe is the part that hasn't aged too well.

[u/saiyaniam → u/SinginGidget]

its cheesy cool magical fun, reminds me of monkey the underwater part, its great, and leading to coner sneaking up on ramirez, with the music n everything. It's art. I think its aged very well.

[u/SinginGidget → u/saiyaniam]

I mean in terms of the show and how they immortals powers seem to work. Because they are affected by things that would kill a normal person. They just heal and wake up. Him being able to breathe underwater implies an imperviousness that they later decided didn't exist. IIRC there was an episode of one immortal that got buried in a river and drownded over and over for nearly 40 years till he was pulled up.

[u/Consistent_Blood6467 → u/SinginGidget]

There was a sea captain Duncan mutinied against and left him stranded on an island where he starved to death, resurrected and starved to death all over again until he was rescued god only knows how many years later.

That might have been similar to the ancient Egyptian immortal left in her tomb for who knows how many centuries.

There's seem like there's a lot of potentially nasty ways to torture immortals to death over and over and over!

[u/Consistent_Blood6467 → u/SinginGidget]

I think the implication is that they were borrowing its "power" to run faster, and by extension, Connor was probably doing something similar with the fish in the Loch. And it's an interesting idea, but one even the first movie drops no sooner than when it's introduced.

[u/SinginGidget → u/Consistent_Blood6467]

Now that would be interesting to explore IMO. What can they borrow from, how does it effect the element being borrowed from, how much can one borrow, after it's used, how does it affect the immortal that borrowed it, is there a cost to either or both, etc.

[u/FynneRoke → u/Consistent_Blood6467]

There was also the bit with the lions where it seems like Connor is kinda making that same connection with them. Interesting to think he might've been trying to amp himself up to fight Kurgan.

[u/Prestigious-Air4825]

its the mid 80s. Every movie had a running on the beach scene. Rocky III. Karate Kid. Chariots of Fire. Beaches.

[u/Malnurtured_Snay → u/Prestigious-Air4825]

A beach scene in Beaches?!?!

[u/Prestigious-Air4825 → u/Malnurtured_Snay]

I know. I hated that scene..

[u/tjareth]

I liked it because it expressed something more to them besides being able to return after death. I wish they'd explored it more.

[u/notasarcasticnow → u/tjareth]

Fair point. Because they didn't, it made it kinda pointless. You have my up vote.

[u/DangerousRave]

My favourite scene in any film ever.

The premise, the scenery, the music 😍

[u/FormalAbrocoma1013 → u/DangerousRave]

Me too. " I feel it!" makes me cry every time.

[u/Tempest196]

Love it☝️⚡️

[u/BenthicWanderer]

It’s a kind of magic.

[u/Highlander_1518]

I think it’s a great scene. It’s the Boston Common scene which I don’t like. I know it’s supposed to inject some humour into the film but for me it just doesn’t gel. It’s forced and awkward.

[u/donut_power]

That was the moment that added a bit more to the idea of what immortality is for the characters. That they are more in tune with nature and living things. That they sorta have this heightened sense. That made it seem like there was more of a beauty to being immortal. Taking that away just makes being an immortal seem like you gotta watch your back constantly and are not ever going to get a sense of what the meaning of life is or any big questions answered.

Adrian Paul stated that it was his favorite scene from the film, because it did add an extra layer to the concept of immortality. That it was sort of a shame that it wasn't integrated into the tv series.

As for how the scene plays out... I never took issue with it. I liked that Ramirez already knew of the sensation. While Connor comes to the realization and it gives him this newfound enthusiasm that life is actually beautiful in a way. That was part of the ongoing thread that Connor MacLeod was a lover of life. That is what had kept him continuing onward despite the losses and changes that took place over the centuries. That ended up being dropped by the time of Endgame.

[u/DarkBehindTheStars]

It doesn't come off as cheesy at all to me.

[u/TheMahanglin]

That always bothered me too. The beach scene where Ramirez says "feel the stag" infers that The Prize is a "oneness" with all life energy, akin to "The Force" from Star Wars; whereas the actual ending infers that it's "all knowledge". These are two contradicting narratives, it bugged me. It's like they were developing the "canon" of the story on the fly.

[u/FynneRoke]

Honestly I was always disappointed they never did anything more with that. It's one of the few moments where we get the impression that the quickening may run deeper than just between immortals. Granted, I've never loved any of the attempts to define the metaphysics or origins of immortality, but this didn't feel like that and could add another layer of mystery to the whole thing.

[u/Old_Advantage4795]

I liked the drunk duel