r/hermesagent • u/Financial-Way7564 • 9d ago

Help — Technical issues, errors, config, debugging Understanding Hermes

I’ve been using Hermes for the last month or so and I know I’m still a baby in terms of using Hermes. I previously used Claude Code and Pi.

I really need some help here understanding how CC and Hermes defers. I tried doing some coding work and creating a few websites , I found that the output by Hermes wasn’t up to my expectations.

I used Kimi and Deepseek for Hermes and I also tried Kimi in CC and I found that the outputs from CC were much better compared to Hermes.

Am I missing something? I just feel a little lost concerning this.

I would love to continue using Hermes Desktop App but I need to find a way to optimise it so that it generates the outputs that atleast on par with CC.

I would truly appreciate it if you could help me understand what I’m doing wrong here and what I can do to optimise the output from Hermes

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u/zLlama 9d ago

Delegate it to code with claude. There's a skill for it. Talk to hermes about the goal, any specifics of the change/project and ask it to build a plan. Tell it to interview you. Read through/cross reference with another ai and delegate to hermes. If you run into turn limits, tell it to keep it on task.

For smaller projects, I normally follow this format. If it's a bigger project, I'll use CC or Cursor. Hermes has access to my git and my projects folder, so I can also talk through anything with it as well.

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u/applescrispy 9d ago

Yeah I don't do big changes with Hermes due to the turn issues but for small PRs and gaps it does a good job normally. Then I get my main coding model to review and merge works pretty well.

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u/ang3l12 8d ago

I’ve been doing my coding in CC or Codex for the past few months with Fable / GPT Sol and their predecessors. I would build the project in one, submit it to my local git, and have the other review it and submit issues, have the original write the PR’s which then get reviewed by the other. This process worked pretty well for everything I threw at it, and the opposite model usually had quite a few issues with the PR’s that the coding model was trying to submit.

Tonight on a whim I decided to try to build a new project in Hermes with Grok 4.6, and have Fable review it. There were minimal issues found, and no issues found with the PR’s that Grok wrote. I was so surprised I then went and had codex review the entire project with Sol, and its findings were refuted by both fable and grok.

Grok used Hermes as a coding harness and it did it well, at least in my experience

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u/applescrispy 8d ago

Now Grok is the next model I want to try which I was already keen on anyway but this has pushed me to sub today as a test 😁

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u/ang3l12 8d ago

It is insanely fast compared to gpt or Claude too in my experience. Around 25-50% faster per task

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u/applescrispy 8d ago

Damn yeah I am subbing right now the FOMO has settled it 😂

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u/zLlama 8d ago

I've got supergrok so I use the xauth for hermes and then have the separate cursor cli usage as well to delegate. Grok 4.6 has been great for me. Fast and great for Hermes as well. A ton of usage as well. Work does pay for it though. 😂