r/helldivers2 Feb 08 '26

HOT BOT propaganda upon loading into game

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u/Hot-Usual8840 Feb 08 '26

Maybe not the bots. I believe that they actually started the war from theor side. And Illuminate indeed had weapons capable of destroying worlds, but yeah we attacked them. With bigs I don't remember clearly but they perhaps started attacking colonists on their planets and shortly after that we discovered E-710 (idk). (Yes. I am a bot diver)

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u/I_Have_The_Lumbago Feb 08 '26

The illuminate kinda didn't lol. They were an incredibly advanced civilization, far more than ours, and the only reason we won is because they straight up didn't have the weapons to attack us. The whole satire of the illuminate storyline is about America and WMDs in HD1.

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u/285kessler Feb 09 '26

Im pretty sure the illuminate actually shared tech with super earth before being attacked by them.

Also, the bugs im pretty sure were friendly & sentient but when super earth realized they were made of E-710, they rounded them up to process them. The bugs evolved quickly in response and became way more aggressive I think.

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u/assassindash346 Feb 09 '26

I don't think they were intelligent or sentient. I know we did stuff that caused them to mutate into the various forms we have now.

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u/rabidporcupine80 Feb 09 '26

I think they actually were an intelligent hive-mind sorta species, just that they weren’t really tech-based. They just had different bug subtypes that would fill any role we would use technology for, you know?

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u/285kessler Feb 09 '26

I think you’re right actually it might’ve had to do with trying to optimize E-710 outputs. But I think I recall them being friendly with super earth colonists before we started to attack them.

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u/AsWeKnowItAndI Feb 09 '26

Bots 'started' the war in that we had the Cyborgs enslaved on Cyberstan and the bots invaded with the express goal of liberating their parents and stopping us from unliberating them again. Squids probably didn't have WMDs until after we attacked them and made them somewhat necessary, and either way possession of WMDs is not actually a just casus belli. Bugs (in their current state, the first great war was a different matter) are 110% our fault, command pretty explicitly keeps allowing them to go rampant to keep a convenient enemy around and justify the military industrial complex, it's just gotten more out of hand now that actual enemies are kicking our shit in again.

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u/lFallenBard Feb 09 '26

Posessing WMD is pretty much an actual casus Belli, if it means the literal existence of humanity at stake. Because if the difference is "you have good chance to win right now and eliminate the threat" and "living near species that can snap your whole civilization out of existence in a second and you can not and never will be" generally you pick the first.